Official TLS Wailisted to Accepted thread 2010 Forum

[MURPH]

I asked about a couple of things, GI BIll/Yellow ribbon scholarship, how many on the waitlist and a what my chances are. I also asked about reapplying for next year. I told her that I just graduated with a second BA and that I got my school's Humanities writing award at graduation and 4.0 GPA. The person who answered the phone was friendly and helpful. I wasn't sure if I was talking to a secretary or admissions officer but who ever answered the phone must have been able to make decisions.

UCLA regular admission.

[MURPH]

There has been some WL-->A movement at the Holy Trinity of Yale Harvard and Stanford, mostly Harvard.
portena 171 3.98 WL, Accepted A
buttons12 174 3.85 WL, Accepted A
Lschool10gurl U 160 3.69 WL, Accepted A
tonymar127 171 3.91 WL, Accepted A
swimbrad 173 4.1 WL, Accepted A
jasmoon U 169 3.8 WL, Accepted A
lizzerbie 171 3.76 WL, Accepted A
nattybro 179 3.76 WL, Accepted
jrap 168 4.07 WL, Accepted
underwhere108 172 3.94 WL, Accepted
ShiftyOne 173 4 WL, Accepted
legalread N 173 3.64 WL, Accepted DA
gtbubblehead N 171 3.91 WL, Accepted DW
AKLaw 175 3.61 WL, Rejected
sunny63 N 166 3.8 WL, Rejected
sajastar 175 3.55 WL, Rejected

75th GPA: 3.95 75th LSAT: 175
Median GPA: 3.86 Median LSAT: 172
25th GPA: 3.72 25th LSAT: 169

At Yale:
dutchstriker 180 3.83 WL, Accepted A

At Stanford:
hermione0901 176 3.95 WL, Accepted A


There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to Harvard's WL_ Accept group. There are low GPAs high GPAs and Low LSAT and high LSAT scores. Maybe they are leaning slightly toward High GPAs but there is no clear trend. In any event this ought to open up some spots at the rest of the T-14. I had hoped that the shuffeling would start by now but there hasn't been as much action as I expected.

[dreaming]

There has been some WL-->A movement at the Holy Trinity of Yale Harvard and Stanford, mostly Harvard.
portena 171 3.98 WL, Accepted A
buttons12 174 3.85 WL, Accepted A
Lschool10gurl U 160 3.69 WL, Accepted A
tonymar127 171 3.91 WL, Accepted A
swimbrad 173 4.1 WL, Accepted A
jasmoon U 169 3.8 WL, Accepted A
lizzerbie 171 3.76 WL, Accepted A
nattybro 179 3.76 WL, Accepted
jrap 168 4.07 WL, Accepted
underwhere108 172 3.94 WL, Accepted
ShiftyOne 173 4 WL, Accepted
legalread N 173 3.64 WL, Accepted DA
gtbubblehead N 171 3.91 WL, Accepted DW
AKLaw 175 3.61 WL, Rejected
sunny63 N 166 3.8 WL, Rejected
sajastar 175 3.55 WL, Rejected

75th GPA: 3.95 75th LSAT: 175
Median GPA: 3.86 Median LSAT: 172
25th GPA: 3.72 25th LSAT: 169

At Yale:
dutchstriker 180 3.83 WL, Accepted A

At Stanford:
hermione0901 176 3.95 WL, Accepted A


There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to Harvard's WL_ Accept group. There are low GPAs high GPAs and Low LSAT and high LSAT scores. Maybe they are leaning slightly toward High GPAs but there is no clear trend. In any event this ought to open up some spots at the rest of the T-14. I had hoped that the shuffeling would start by now but there hasn't been as much action as I expected.

It seems like a lot of this movement has been in the past 20ish days... Do you think this means some of the waitlist movement could still trickle down to Columbia, NYU, etc...?

[im_blue]

There has been some WL-->A movement at the Holy Trinity of Yale Harvard and Stanford, mostly Harvard.
portena 171 3.98 WL, Accepted A
buttons12 174 3.85 WL, Accepted A
Lschool10gurl U 160 3.69 WL, Accepted A
tonymar127 171 3.91 WL, Accepted A
swimbrad 173 4.1 WL, Accepted A
jasmoon U 169 3.8 WL, Accepted A
lizzerbie 171 3.76 WL, Accepted A
nattybro 179 3.76 WL, Accepted
jrap 168 4.07 WL, Accepted
underwhere108 172 3.94 WL, Accepted
ShiftyOne 173 4 WL, Accepted
legalread N 173 3.64 WL, Accepted DA
gtbubblehead N 171 3.91 WL, Accepted DW
AKLaw 175 3.61 WL, Rejected
sunny63 N 166 3.8 WL, Rejected
sajastar 175 3.55 WL, Rejected

75th GPA: 3.95 75th LSAT: 175
Median GPA: 3.86 Median LSAT: 172
25th GPA: 3.72 25th LSAT: 169

At Yale:
dutchstriker 180 3.83 WL, Accepted A

At Stanford:
hermione0901 176 3.95 WL, Accepted A


There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to Harvard's WL_ Accept group. There are low GPAs high GPAs and Low LSAT and high LSAT scores. Maybe they are leaning slightly toward High GPAs but there is no clear trend. In any event this ought to open up some spots at the rest of the T-14. I had hoped that the shuffeling would start by now but there hasn't been as much action as I expected.

It seems like a lot of this movement has been in the past 20ish days... Do you think this means some of the waitlist movement could still trickle down to Columbia, NYU, etc...?

I think Columbia probably stands to lose the most students from the Harvard WL->Accepted group, which will probably trickle down to NYU and so on. Unless those schools are already overenrolled.

[MURPH]

Duke dropped some people today because their second deposit was due and class is full. I sent a LOCI yesterday but I think the decision had already been made. I was dumped from the waitlist too.
Here are the early returns from LSN:
Goozer 163 3.98 WL, Rejected 10-19-09 10-21-09 02-15-10 13 hours
2010LSApplicant 169 3.51 WL, Rejected 10-16-09 11-02-09 02-15-09 13 hours
lulumae U 160 3.2 WL, Rejected 10-27-09 12-15-09 11 hours
me 175, 2.98 WL-->rej applied 12/09

I am the splitterest if the bunch, but Goozer is a reverse splitter and lulumae is a URM with fairly low numbers for Duke. I'll check on LSN later in the week to try and see if any trend emerges. The Duke waitlist thread here has some tales of woe too.

[Emma1]

Question for those with multiple waitlists...Can you accept a position off the waitlist ( and plan to go there) but take an offer from another higher ranked school if you get off that waitlist later in the summer? I know you would forfeit deposit. Thanks.

[mutfro]

got in at bc yesterday. 167/3.43

[robin600]

In at ND today, turned it down though, no money.

[Integrity]

In at ND today, turned it down though, no money.

Congrats on your wait lists successes, though! You're on a roll!

[robin600]

In at ND today, turned it down though, no money.

Congrats on your wait lists successes, though! You're on a roll!

Thanks Integrity! The roll might stop soon though, I think I really like WUSTL!

[Integrity]

In at ND today, turned it down though, no money.

Congrats on your wait lists successes, though! You're on a roll!

Thanks Integrity! The roll might stop soon though, I think I really like WUSTL!

Well, I am glad you are settled/settling on a law school! Are you going to hold out for Vandy? Whatever you do, please send some of your good fortune my way!

[MURPH]

Question for those with multiple waitlists...Can you accept a position off the waitlist ( and plan to go there) but take an offer from another higher ranked school if you get off that waitlist later in the summer? I know you would forfeit deposit. Thanks.

That is most people's plan if you are on multiple waitlists. I have heard of schools that ask you to drop all other applications/waitlist when offered a seat but unless they were offering a scholarship I'd pretty much tell them I am not making any more commitment than any other student. You'd forfit the deposit if you switched schools.

[RSN_M3]

I was waitlisted and then accepted at SMU and Penn State.

[MURPH]

Columbia has been dropping people from their waitlist. Almost 90% of those dropped have been below the median LSAT score. GPAs are all over the place, with about half above and half below the median. No one has been picked up from the waitlist. Needless to say this summer is not turning out the way I expected. I thought it would be the year of the waitlist shuffle. It is turning out to be the year of the waitlist wait.

iwant2go2there 168 3.45 WL, Rejected
rhgross 163 3.84 WL, Rejected
r11kaede I 158 3.34 WL, Rejected
fl0w UN 161 3.3 WL, Rejected
braceypie 168 3.9 WL, Rejected
Ragged 170 3.87 WL, Rejected
JippersBronfman 168 3.6 WL, Rejected
sasquatch 171 3.56 WL, Rejected
chutzpah 174 3.64 WL, Rejected
2010LSApplicant 169 3.51 WL, Rejected
cattiger 168 3.79 WL, Rejected
dmcbride 173 3.46 WL, Rejected
barrinmb 175 3.21 WL, Rejected
genev26 169 3.62 WL, Rejected
pollaclc WL, Rejected
nax425 170 3.95 WL, Rejected
srbluth 165 3.85 WL, Rejected
Guest080 168 3.75 WL, Rejected
jdephs 164 3.53 WL, Rejected
akinder71 169 3.74 WL, Rejected
paulsboutique 167 3.95 WL, Reject
pomonahen 168 3.73 WL, Rejected
dummy66 U 160 3.85 WL, Rejected
BRUINWANG 168 3.56 WL, Rejected D
WaitlistWannabe 169 3.87 WL, Rejected D
75th GPA: 3.82 75th LSAT: 174
Median GPA: 3.7 Median LSAT: 172
25th GPA: 3.51 25th LSAT: 169

[robin600]

In at ND today, turned it down though, no money.

Congrats on your wait lists successes, though! You're on a roll!

Thanks Integrity! The roll might stop soon though, I think I really like WUSTL!

Well, I am glad you are settled/settling on a law school! Are you going to hold out for Vandy? Whatever you do, please send some of your good fortune my way!

I doubt it, maybe, but I don't think so. I can't give up 60k from WUSTL. PS-It's my birthday today, so as a birthday wish, I give all my luck to all the WLers going through hell right now. WLs suck much balls!

[peeker82]

i think your good luck wishes worked. IN AT DUKE!! starting in 2011 tho, but so stoked. Cycle finally over! So satisfying to tell my 6 other waitlists that they've been rejected from me

[robin600]

i think your good luck wishes worked. IN AT DUKE!! starting in 2011 tho, but so stoked. Cycle finally over! So satisfying to tell my 6 other waitlists that they've been rejected from me

Congrats!!!!

[Integrity]

Happy (much) belated birthday, Robin! Hope it was great!

I am definitely in HELL on these wait lists...but I am so HAPPY for your 60k at WUSTL! Amazing work!

[MURPH]

PENN has been plucking a few people from their waitlists. They are only taking high GPA people and those with high LSATs are being rejected along with low LSATs, and average LSATs.

aulburch1 WL, Accepted A
jeeli 168 3.85 WL, Accepted
ourika 166 4 WL, Accepted
xokel87 165 3.924 WL, Accepted
HLS2012 3.9 WL, Accepted
342848386278 168 3.85 WL, Accepted DA
smb490 167 3.93 WL, Rejected
pelmen74 170 3.7 WL, Rejected
jdephs 164 3.53 WL, Rejected
mugwump N 162 3.1 WL, Rejected
Litigious N 159 3.5 WL, Rejected
sf74 171 3.4 WL, Rejected
CoaltoNewCastle 179 3.77 WL, Rejected
oneforship 175 3.16 WL, Rejected
bostonian 176 3.28 WL, Rejected

I survived the latest round of dumpings from the WL, probably because of my phone calls, extra LOR written specifically for Penn, emails, etc. I probably won't get in anyway.

[MURPH]

Northwestern is also picking up a few here and there.
GPAs are all over the place but LSAT scores are fairly high among the accepted. I kept the info about how long since they were accepted. Northwestern is not dropping anyone lately. Frankly I don't understand why the school benefits from dropping people from their waitlists, except that it is just polite to let people know. I would want to keep my options as wide open as possible. OTOH is might be fun to be a powerful adcom, knowing that some poor applicant's future is in my hand, and then crush them daily for my own amusement.

Northwestern's median LSAT is 170 and everyone admitted is above the median. Congrats to taw856 who might have the lowest GPA in the T-14. I will be right there with you if I get in.

raspberryfruitcake WL, Accepted A 7 days
jml8756 175 3.67 WL, Accepted A 3 days
worldpiece17 170 3.3 WL, Accepted A 16 days
taw856 U 170 2.77 WL, Accepted A 12 days
caleng 170 3.2 WL, Accepted 16 days
fl0w UN 161 3.3 WL, Rejected 3 months
ainzabo7 UN 163 3.7 WL, Rejected 3 months

[MURPH]

Georgetown update. One person: Madmob
was accepted fronm the waitlist at G-town witha 170 3.89.
He was offered a $85,500 scholarship. He put his data in yesterday but I don't know if they offered it recently or if he just got around to updating his account. Most people are not getting $$$ from the waitlist but G-town has given money to at least 5 people from the waitlist this year and did so in previous years too. When I spoke to them they encouraged me to go to their PT program but I wanted FT only.

[OneShotFinch128]

In at IU-B yesterday.

[MURPH]

The data from LSN shows that Duke is dropping students with GPAs less then their median. They are dropping people without regard to LSAT score since about half the people dropped are above the median and half below. Only one WL-->rejection student had a GPA above the median. The one person accepted was probably accepted ED for next cycle.

jj55 170 3.41 WL, Accepted ED A 6 days
wildpitch20 169 3.5 WL, Rejected 25 days
Goozer 163 3.98 WL, Rejected 1 month
michan17 169 3.5 WL, Rejected 5 days
2010LSApplicant 169 3.51 WL, Rejected 1 month
barrinmb 175 3.21 WL, Rejected 29 days
lulumae URM 161 3.3 WL, Rejected 30 days
JKS 169 3.48 WL, Rejected 16 days

75th GPA: 3.85 75th LSAT: 169
Median GPA: 3.78 Median LSAT: 168
25th GPA: 3.66 25th LSAT: 165

[MURPH]

Since I posted about NU above, they have let in one or two more students. Northwestern is one of the very few t-14 schools that is admitting people with high LSAT scores from the waitlist. Most of the others are admitting people with high GPAs. I called this morning to ask about my status and to let them know that in a few days I will be purchasing a home near my soon to be law school. Once that happens I will ask to be taken off of the waitlist. Here are the numbers of people from LSN that were admitted this cycle from the waitlist:

Shellbelle 171 3.3 WL, Accepted A
raspberryfruitcake WL, Accepted A
caleng 170 3.2 WL, Accepted A
jml8756 175 3.67 WL, Accepted A
taw856 U 170 2.77 WL, Accepted A
worldpiece17 170 3.3 WL, Accepted A
ainzabo7 UN 163 3.7 WL, Rejected
fl0w UN 161 3.3 WL, Rejected

edit: Someone pointed out to me that most of the WL--> accepteds here are female. Not sure if that is by chance or intentional.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

In at Stanford- 3.85/168