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Re: Emory 2011

Post by EU223 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:15 am

Obviously, you caught me being somewhat hypocritical in my use of US News's reputation information. However, if you somehow understood me to be saying that you should focus solely on that metric, I must not have been clear enough. What I was attempting to communicate is that the self reported employment data in US News should not be your primary source for comparing how law schools place their students into the real world. I even listed several other methods to consider. But, I have to disagree with your assertion that it isn't important to consider what firms think of you. In the legal hiring world, your law school's reputation does matter. I won't clog up this thread anymore.

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by nicole88 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:44 am

Is there a facebook page for Admitted Students?

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Post by Metaread » Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:54 pm

I don't see an official Facebook page for admitted students. A more thorough search revealed one law school group with 7 members though (last I checked).

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by meryl » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:21 pm

nicole88 wrote:Is there a facebook page for Admitted Students?
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=gro ... 3856413081

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by drummerboy » Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:28 pm

Great school. Go Emory!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:

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Post by FGCUguy123 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:13 pm

drummerboy wrote:Great school. Go Emory!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:
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Post by drummerboy » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:25 pm

well said

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by ku1185 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:59 pm

In via e-mail.

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Post by FeelTheHeat » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:59 pm

ku1185 wrote:In via e-mail.
Huh? I thought it was all snail mail...

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by ku1185 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:02 pm

FeelTheHeat wrote:
ku1185 wrote:In via e-mail.
Huh? I thought it was all snail mail...
oing... hmmm. I got an e-mail with 2 attachments: school's info book and a signed and scanned letter.

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by ze2151 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:14 pm

ku is probably an overseas applicant. that's how emory does it for those students.

and to an earlier poster: there is no such thing as *gasp* actual employment data. there just isn't. firm reputational rankings are at least as reliable an indicator as employment data us news uses. i imagine there are a few incredulous recent grads and 3Ls at some of the schools reporting 90% employment. maybe not though, that is pure speculation since, as i said, there are no reliable data on the matter.

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Post by ku1185 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:15 pm

ze2151 wrote:ku is probably an overseas applicant. that's how emory does it for those students.

and to an earlier poster: there is no such thing as *gasp* actual employment data. there just isn't. firm reputational rankings are at least as reliable an indicator as employment data us news uses. i imagine there are a few incredulous recent grads and 3Ls at some of the schools reporting 90% employment. maybe not though, that is pure speculation since, as i said, there are no reliable data on the matter.
I'm actually from NJ. Strange... wonder why I got an e-mail. Perhaps I'm being trollololol'd.

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Post by FuManChusco » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:19 pm

ze2151 wrote:ku is probably an overseas applicant. that's how emory does it for those students.

and to an earlier poster: there is no such thing as *gasp* actual employment data. there just isn't. firm reputational rankings are at least as reliable an indicator as employment data us news uses. i imagine there are a few incredulous recent grads and 3Ls at some of the schools reporting 90% employment. maybe not though, that is pure speculation since, as i said, there are no reliable data on the matter.
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Re: Emory 2011

Post by ze2151 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:23 pm

maybe they're trying to get things out quicker to give y'all more time to make a decision? who knows. i'm sure it's legit.

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Post by ze2151 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:24 pm

FuManChusco wrote:
ze2151 wrote:ku is probably an overseas applicant. that's how emory does it for those students.

and to an earlier poster: there is no such thing as *gasp* actual employment data. there just isn't. firm reputational rankings are at least as reliable an indicator as employment data us news uses. i imagine there are a few incredulous recent grads and 3Ls at some of the schools reporting 90% employment. maybe not though, that is pure speculation since, as i said, there are no reliable data on the matter.
nlj250 stats? clerkship data?

those are good indicators but obviously don't tell the whole story. nor are they the employment data us news uses. reporting employment data to us news is the wild west.

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by FuManChusco » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:41 pm

ze2151 wrote:
FuManChusco wrote:
ze2151 wrote:ku is probably an overseas applicant. that's how emory does it for those students.

and to an earlier poster: there is no such thing as *gasp* actual employment data. there just isn't. firm reputational rankings are at least as reliable an indicator as employment data us news uses. i imagine there are a few incredulous recent grads and 3Ls at some of the schools reporting 90% employment. maybe not though, that is pure speculation since, as i said, there are no reliable data on the matter.
nlj250 stats? clerkship data?

those are good indicators but obviously don't tell the whole story. nor are they the employment data us news uses. reporting employment data to us news is the wild west.
I don't know where you're going with this. both firm reputation rankings and us news employment data are unreliable metrics to measure employment. you shouldn't be using either when there is much better data available.

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by ze2151 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:54 pm

i'm saying there aren't much better data available that actually tell the story, and one metric as as good (in this case, as bad) as the next. what i'm not saying is that firm rep rankings are gospel and patently better than anything. i don't think i even referenced firm reputation rankings in the stuff you quoted. nlj250 data and clerkship data tell a fraction of the story. that may be the only fraction you care about, and that's fine.

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by Mr_Brightside » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:25 pm

http://finance.yahoo.com/college-educat ... te-schools

Ridiculous how Emory is now the example of FAIL.

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by ran12 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:33 pm

Mr_Brightside wrote:http://finance.yahoo.com/college-educat ... te-schools

Ridiculous how Emory is now the example of FAIL.
Doesn't matter. People who read that article and believe everything in it are morons anyway.

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by ecarter22 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:23 pm

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Post by Metaread » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:15 am

Well if people are saying firm reputations and the US News data are inaccurate measures, what would you use to measure employment and such instead?

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by seriously???? » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:57 am

you know how transparency could get real?
we need a current student to get a list of graduates from a certain class, then look them up online. You will find if they are working, where, what types of employment, size of firm, and a brief bio about the graduate's background. still wouldnt complete the puzzle, but would be pretty damn close, and much better than only NLJ 250 big law placement and clerkships ( i dont even consider the school's self reported info).
now, if a few kids from each school did this, there would be a much better picture as to who is telling the truth. Future law students will make better informed decisions as to where to invest our large sums of cash, and several lawsuits would also ensue.
all in all, a damn good idea that would only take a few hours to execute.

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by bigredforlaw » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:45 am

Also in via email!

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by leefair123 » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:48 am

I didnt even recieve the "Why we fell in the rankings email" anyone else????

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Re: Emory 2011

Post by dcgirl1013 » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:56 am

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