179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

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179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Stanley Otto Swift » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:15 pm

shoot

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby redsox » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:17 pm

Why use such a distracting avatar?

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Helmholtz » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:17 pm

How does it feel getting all these poor people's hopes up?

Also, which sections accounted for your errors on your 179 LSAT?
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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby sayan » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:17 pm

Best way to avoid the test-day drop in score?

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby multiprose » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:18 pm

what was you sextion distribution and how did you improve?

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Shaggier1 » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:19 pm

OP, I have PM'ed you so as to not hijack the thread.

Congrats on a monster increase!

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Stanley Otto Swift » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:19 pm

redsox wrote:Why use such a distracting avatar?


I thought it was funny last Christmas when I changed it.

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Stanley Otto Swift » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:21 pm

Helmholtz wrote:How does it feel getting all these poor people's hopes up?

Also, which sections accounted for your errors on your 179 LSAT?


1 LG, 2 RC. A huge increase is possible, I'm nothing special.

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Stanley Otto Swift » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:23 pm

sayan wrote:Best way to avoid the test-day drop in score?


tons of recent PTs under actual conditions. Good sleep schedule, adequate preparation (obviously), confidence.

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby solotee » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:23 pm

How long did it take you to increase from 154 to 179?

How many times have you sat in for the test?

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Stanley Otto Swift » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:25 pm

multiprose wrote:what was you sextion distribution and how did you improve?


Tons of hard work, tons of times and untimed practice, took Testmasters, tons of supplementary reading. I basically brute-forced my way to a high score.

Missed 2 on RC and 1 on LG.

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Stanley Otto Swift » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:28 pm

solotee wrote:How long did it take you to increase from 154 to 179?

How many times have you sat in for the test?


I studied off and on for about nine months. I retook a 174, which everyone told me was insanity, but I knew I had a 180 or 179 in me. Probably spent 400 or 500 hours on LSAT related studying.

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby bkbkbk » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:31 pm

How many months did you study? What was weekly schedule like? And like mentioned before how many times did you actually sit for the LSAT?

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Stanley Otto Swift » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:34 pm

bkbkbk wrote:How many months did you study? What was weekly schedule like? And like mentioned before how many times did you actually sit for the LSAT?


sat three times: cancel, 174, 179

studied about 450 hours over the course of 9 months

weekly schedule was anywhere from 15-25 hours/week of PTs and review. I was enrolled in TestMasters, and it is a fine class, but most of my improvement came on my own.

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby jchsu » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:36 pm

Did you have gradual improvements or was there a time where a lot of things just clicked all of a sudden?

What was your distribution like when you took your first diagnostic?

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby 02082010 » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:36 pm

Keep in mind it's not possible for everyone to prep themselves into the 99%ile. Some ppl will just max out at a 160 or 165.

I got a 154 on my original diagnostic last June and got a 176 on PT 43 yesterday. Hopefully will make it as high as you on the real thing.

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Batman2 » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:40 pm

I am taking the June '10 Lsat; when do you think I should take my diagnostic, and begin intensive studying?

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Stanley Otto Swift » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:40 pm

jchsu wrote:Did you have gradual improvements or was there a time where a lot of things just clicked all of a sudden?

What was your distribution like when you took your first diagnostic?


I missed about 16 on LG my first time out. Other errors were evenly distributed. Really rapid improvement began when I started to recognize the recurrent patterns in LR and LG.

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Stanley Otto Swift » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:42 pm

Batman2 wrote:I am taking the June '10 Lsat; when do you think I should take my diagnostic, and begin intensive studying?


I wouldn't start studying in earnest until 3 or 4 months before the test. This is plenty of time.

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby multiprose » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:42 pm

Stanley Otto Swift wrote:
jchsu wrote:Did you have gradual improvements or was there a time where a lot of things just clicked all of a sudden?

What was your distribution like when you took your first diagnostic?


I missed about 16 on LG my first time out. Other errors were evenly distributed. Really rapid improvement began when I started to recognize the recurrent patterns in LR and LG.


can you list the current LG patterns?

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby solotee » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:45 pm

What did your PT scores look like a month before your first sitting?

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Stanley Otto Swift » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:46 pm

multiprose wrote:
can you list the current LG patterns?


by "recurrent patterns" I mean logical relationships that are re-used again and again. Some games and LR questions are almost identical to one another, and when you answer hundreds and hundreds of questions you begin to speak LSAT instinctively. I didn't mean to indicate that I had done research on the prevalence of certain LG types.

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Stanley Otto Swift » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:47 pm

solotee wrote:What did your PT scores look like a month before your first sitting?


I was around 170 at that time. This is before I took the plunge and told myself I would beat the test no matter the cost.

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby Olive » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:49 pm

If you could give one piece of advice about improving LR what would it be (aside from seeing the patterns)?

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Re: 179 LSAT, 154 diagnostic, taking questions, giving advice...

Postby solotee » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:50 pm

Thanks for looking out for us, very inspiring achievement. Any specific advice that you could offer us test takers that are stuck in the mid 160's?




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