June 2017 Waiters Thread- Grayday! -9 curve. GL all Forum

[saf18hornet]

From LSAC Twitter: "LSAC will be closed Mon. July 3 and Tues. July 4 for the Independence Day holiday. This will not affect our websites. Have a great holiday!"

So do we think this means it's unlikely they will release scores on the 3rd?

Given this info I'm tempted to believe we won't hear back until the 5 because telling us before a 4-day weekend would likely be a disaster for them.

Alternatively, they don't have to answer phone calls from people complaining/freaking out

Maybe wishful thinking but I feel like this points to scores coming out tomorrow or Friday. What do you say Future Ex-Engineer? Does this change your odds at all?

The other engineer in this thread made the odds, ME! I think my updated odds would be
Thu June 29 = 45:1
Fri June 30 = 5:1
Mon July 3 = 3:1
Tue July 4 = 10:1
Wed July 5 = 20:1
Thu July 6 = LOL

[chargers21]

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[chargers21]

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[Future Ex-Engineer]

From LSAC Twitter: "LSAC will be closed Mon. July 3 and Tues. July 4 for the Independence Day holiday. This will not affect our websites. Have a great holiday!"

So do we think this means it's unlikely they will release scores on the 3rd?

Given this info I'm tempted to believe we won't hear back until the 5 because telling us before a 4-day weekend would likely be a disaster for them.

Alternatively, they don't have to answer phone calls from people complaining/freaking out

Maybe wishful thinking but I feel like this points to scores coming out tomorrow or Friday. What do you say Future Ex-Engineer? Does this change your odds at all?

Tomorrow I'd say unlikely. Friday I still think unlikely.

Still expect Monday 3rd as most likely. What about you SAFHornet?

Edit: Yep, after seeing his updated odds, that's the same betting line I'd go with

[tuna_wasabi]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

Right to right-center. Mostly because of ideological/moral differences between myself and beliefs that come from what I believe about the world vs the left.

There are probably a few of us around here, we just tend to be quieter about our political leanings due to how numerous/outspoken the other side is. For me, I mostly don't engage in those sorts of discussions/arguments, because I've found they tend to work out *exactly* the same online as they do in person - no one changes their mind because everyone has already decided what/how they're going to believe/lean, so the argument typically does nothing more than make some people angry cause unneeded tension among otherwise-similar people.

What's the right of center? Conservatives, essentially? I'm fiscally conservative in my own country but not sure which political spectrum I identify with here in the States. Belief boils down to "let's mind our own businesses and not meddle with that of others". So where do I belong?

[Future Ex-Engineer]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

Right to right-center. Mostly because of ideological/moral differences between myself and beliefs that come from what I believe about the world vs the left.

There are probably a few of us around here, we just tend to be quieter about our political leanings due to how numerous/outspoken the other side is. For me, I mostly don't engage in those sorts of discussions/arguments, because I've found they tend to work out *exactly* the same online as they do in person - no one changes their mind because everyone has already decided what/how they're going to believe/lean, so the argument typically does nothing more than make some people angry cause unneeded tension among otherwise-similar people.

What's the right of center? Conservatives, essentially? I'm fiscally conservative in my own country but not sure which political spectrum I identify with here in the States. Not fond of identity politics at all. Belief boils down to "let's mind our own businesses and not meddle with that of others". So where do I belong?

Right of center definitely = conservative in my mind. I'm fiscally conservative (this is somewhat complicated though - I believe we could cut the defense budget and still be fine, but that would require cleaning house and getting rid of bad/lazy gov't employees, and we all know that isn't going to happen) and morally/religiously conservative. Work for DoD as a contractor, so again, right-leaning in my thoughts on defense spending Red-blooded capitalism supporting American.

Lots of people would probably categorize me as 'traditional', but labels are stupid, so I try to avoid them

[Platopus]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

I'm on the right for the most part. I'm probably more of a libertarian, but if I had to pick Dem / Rep, I'll almost always vote Republican.

[QueenBAYder]

From LSAC Twitter: "LSAC will be closed Mon. July 3 and Tues. July 4 for the Independence Day holiday. This will not affect our websites. Have a great holiday!"

So do we think this means it's unlikely they will release scores on the 3rd?

Given this info I'm tempted to believe we won't hear back until the 5 because telling us before a 4-day weekend would likely be a disaster for them.

Alternatively, they don't have to answer phone calls from people complaining/freaking out

Maybe wishful thinking but I feel like this points to scores coming out tomorrow or Friday. What do you say Future Ex-Engineer? Does this change your odds at all?

The other engineer in this thread made the odds, ME! I think my updated odds would be
Thu June 29 = 45:1
Fri June 30 = 5:1
Mon July 3 = 3:1
Tue July 4 = 10:1
Wed July 5 = 20:1
Thu July 6 = LOL

Ha, sorry! Credit where credit is due!

[coskigirl]

From LSAC Twitter: "LSAC will be closed Mon. July 3 and Tues. July 4 for the Independence Day holiday. This will not affect our websites. Have a great holiday!"

So do we think this means it's unlikely they will release scores on the 3rd?

Given this info I'm tempted to believe we won't hear back until the 5 because telling us before a 4-day weekend would likely be a disaster for them.

Alternatively, they don't have to answer phone calls from people complaining/freaking out

Maybe wishful thinking but I feel like this points to scores coming out tomorrow or Friday. What do you say Future Ex-Engineer? Does this change your odds at all?

Tomorrow I'd say unlikely. Friday I still think unlikely.

Still expect Monday 3rd as most likely. What about you SAFHornet?

Edit: Yep, after seeing his updated odds, that's the same betting line I'd go with

I think the comment about the website not being affected is a big clue toward Monday much to my dismay.

[Jack_Kelly]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

ooooooh boy you will be ripped to shreds in the off-topics if you make it there. A fellow C/O 2020 poster, bwaldorf, is certainly right of center. She has been harassed a bit for that because this site is super liberal. I personally am a small "l" libertarian. I usually vote left because of my social liberalness. I vote libertarian when it's an option, even though some of the platforms for the party are whacky. but otherwise often vote Dem. I vote for some repubs in the local elections because everyone in my area is pretty far right regardless of party affiliation.

Libertarians also get ripped to shreds on here. #TaxationIsTheft #DefendThe2nd #LegalizeFreedom

I voted for Gary in 2016

I describe myself as a small l libertarian as well, but in the old sense of the word. I'm a libertarian socialist, I probably identify mostly with Luxemburgism. Support a small central government and direct democracy, But I'm also an anti-capitalist, which puts me pretty far from the US Libertarian Party policy. Johnson might be slightly less awful than Clinton in my mind due to foreign policy alone, but I threw my vote away with Stein instead.

[Mint-Berry_Crunch]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

ooooooh boy you will be ripped to shreds in the off-topics if you make it there. A fellow C/O 2020 poster, bwaldorf, is certainly right of center. She has been harassed a bit for that because this site is super liberal. I personally am a small "l" libertarian. I usually vote left because of my social liberalness. I vote libertarian when it's an option, even though some of the platforms for the party are whacky. but otherwise often vote Dem. I vote for some repubs in the local elections because everyone in my area is pretty far right regardless of party affiliation.

Libertarians also get ripped to shreds on here. #TaxationIsTheft #DefendThe2nd #LegalizeFreedom

I voted for Gary in 2016

I describe myself as a small l libertarian as well, but in the old sense of the word. I'm a libertarian socialist, I probably identify mostly with Luxemburgism. Support a small central government and direct democracy, But I'm also an anti-capitalist, which puts me pretty far from the US Libertarian Party policy. Johnson might be slightly less awful than Clinton in my mind due to foreign policy alone, but I threw my vote away with Stein instead.

I'm ignorant how to do you reconcile libertarianism and anti capitalism


Like the role of the gov then is only to monitor/direct economy?

[chargers21]

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[chargers21]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

Right to right-center. Mostly because of ideological/moral differences between myself and beliefs that come from what I believe about the world vs the left.

There are probably a few of us around here, we just tend to be quieter about our political leanings due to how numerous/outspoken the other side is. For me, I mostly don't engage in those sorts of discussions/arguments, because I've found they tend to work out *exactly* the same online as they do in person - no one changes their mind because everyone has already decided what/how they're going to believe/lean, so the argument typically does nothing more than make some people angry cause unneeded tension among otherwise-similar people.

What's the right of center? Conservatives, essentially? I'm fiscally conservative in my own country but not sure which political spectrum I identify with here in the States. Not fond of identity politics at all. Belief boils down to "let's mind our own businesses and not meddle with that of others". So where do I belong?

Right of center definitely = conservative in my mind. I'm fiscally conservative (this is somewhat complicated though - I believe we could cut the defense budget and still be fine, but that would require cleaning house and getting rid of bad/lazy gov't employees, and we all know that isn't going to happen) and morally/religiously conservative. Work for DoD as a contractor, so again, right-leaning in my thoughts on defense spending Red-blooded capitalism supporting American.

Lots of people would probably categorize me as 'traditional', but labels are stupid, so I try to avoid them

The difference between center right and far right to me is whether you are religious and conservative in your own actions, or whether you are religiously conservative and would like the government to legislate upon that ideology

[Slippin' Jimmy]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

ooooooh boy you will be ripped to shreds in the off-topics if you make it there. A fellow C/O 2020 poster, bwaldorf, is certainly right of center. She has been harassed a bit for that because this site is super liberal. I personally am a small "l" libertarian. I usually vote left because of my social liberalness. I vote libertarian when it's an option, even though some of the platforms for the party are whacky. but otherwise often vote Dem. I vote for some repubs in the local elections because everyone in my area is pretty far right regardless of party affiliation.

Libertarians also get ripped to shreds on here. #TaxationIsTheft #DefendThe2nd #LegalizeFreedom

I voted for Gary in 2016

I describe myself as a small l libertarian as well, but in the old sense of the word. I'm a libertarian socialist, I probably identify mostly with Luxemburgism. Support a small central government and direct democracy, But I'm also an anti-capitalist, which puts me pretty far from the US Libertarian Party policy. Johnson might be slightly less awful than Clinton in my mind due to foreign policy alone, but I threw my vote away with Stein instead.

I'm ignorant how to do you reconcile libertarianism and anti capitalism


Like the role of the gov then is only to monitor/direct economy?

The original use of the term libertarian was for a certain strain of socialism, and in the US it has evolved to be pretty close to classical liberalism. I could be completely wrong, but I think the the "liber" part of the word use to refer to "liberation" while it refers to "liberty" now. In many parts of Europe it still retains its original meaning.

[Jack_Kelly]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

ooooooh boy you will be ripped to shreds in the off-topics if you make it there. A fellow C/O 2020 poster, bwaldorf, is certainly right of center. She has been harassed a bit for that because this site is super liberal. I personally am a small "l" libertarian. I usually vote left because of my social liberalness. I vote libertarian when it's an option, even though some of the platforms for the party are whacky. but otherwise often vote Dem. I vote for some repubs in the local elections because everyone in my area is pretty far right regardless of party affiliation.

Libertarians also get ripped to shreds on here. #TaxationIsTheft #DefendThe2nd #LegalizeFreedom

I voted for Gary in 2016

I describe myself as a small l libertarian as well, but in the old sense of the word. I'm a libertarian socialist, I probably identify mostly with Luxemburgism. Support a small central government and direct democracy, But I'm also an anti-capitalist, which puts me pretty far from the US Libertarian Party policy. Johnson might be slightly less awful than Clinton in my mind due to foreign policy alone, but I threw my vote away with Stein instead.

I'm ignorant how to do you reconcile libertarianism and anti capitalism


Like the role of the gov then is only to monitor/direct economy?

I mean, anarchism is certainly both libertarian and anti-capitalist. Rojava, the northern (Kurdish) part of Syria, is a bit of an experiment in libertarian socialism ("democratic confederalism" is the name of the specific ideology). Organization there tends to be at the level of towns or villages, the central government is existent but quite weak.

Luxemburg was the leader of the German Communist Party, and opposed Leninism as undemocratic, she supported a free press and direct democratic control of institutions.

And honestly not a big fan of Stein tbh, but by far my favorite of her, Trump, Clinton, and Johnson.

[QueenBAYder]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

ooooooh boy you will be ripped to shreds in the off-topics if you make it there. A fellow C/O 2020 poster, bwaldorf, is certainly right of center. She has been harassed a bit for that because this site is super liberal. I personally am a small "l" libertarian. I usually vote left because of my social liberalness. I vote libertarian when it's an option, even though some of the platforms for the party are whacky. but otherwise often vote Dem. I vote for some repubs in the local elections because everyone in my area is pretty far right regardless of party affiliation.

Libertarians also get ripped to shreds on here. #TaxationIsTheft #DefendThe2nd #LegalizeFreedom

I voted for Gary in 2016

I describe myself as a small l libertarian as well, but in the old sense of the word. I'm a libertarian socialist, I probably identify mostly with Luxemburgism. Support a small central government and direct democracy, But I'm also an anti-capitalist, which puts me pretty far from the US Libertarian Party policy. Johnson might be slightly less awful than Clinton in my mind due to foreign policy alone, but I threw my vote away with Stein instead.

That's almost as far from LP libertarian policy as you can get. Probably closer to a reformed leftist party that I don't know of. Sorry about your vote for Stein, though. She lost me when she pandered to the anti-science crowd

+180 re: Stein... also though, this thread is the only thing keeping me sane right now and I'm worried if we fall too deep into the politics hole we won't be able to climb out of it. What if we talked about... favorite TV shows? Whose bingeing what on Netflix/Hulu right now? I highly recommend the new season of Master of None with Aziz Ansari if anyone is looking for something new to start (30 minute, comedy, but also very well done and unexpectedly cerebral at times).

[chargers21]

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[principalagent]

Interesting that there seems to be more right leaning posters per capita in this thread than in other social threads on TLS.

I'm a pretty solid welfare capitalist and heavy to the left on social issues as well (especially those regarding race and gender/sexual minorities) but I'm a pragmatic thinker and thus am not of the revolution mindset. The Democratic Party serves my purposes just fine (although they need to get their shit together at the moment), but I think I would find a slightly better home in the social democratic parties of Europe.

[chargers21]

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[Jack_Kelly]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

ooooooh boy you will be ripped to shreds in the off-topics if you make it there. A fellow C/O 2020 poster, bwaldorf, is certainly right of center. She has been harassed a bit for that because this site is super liberal. I personally am a small "l" libertarian. I usually vote left because of my social liberalness. I vote libertarian when it's an option, even though some of the platforms for the party are whacky. but otherwise often vote Dem. I vote for some repubs in the local elections because everyone in my area is pretty far right regardless of party affiliation.

Libertarians also get ripped to shreds on here. #TaxationIsTheft #DefendThe2nd #LegalizeFreedom

I voted for Gary in 2016

I describe myself as a small l libertarian as well, but in the old sense of the word. I'm a libertarian socialist, I probably identify mostly with Luxemburgism. Support a small central government and direct democracy, But I'm also an anti-capitalist, which puts me pretty far from the US Libertarian Party policy. Johnson might be slightly less awful than Clinton in my mind due to foreign policy alone, but I threw my vote away with Stein instead.

That's almost as far from LP libertarian policy as you can get. Probably closer to a reformed leftist party that I don't know of. Sorry about your vote for Stein, though. She lost me when she pandered to the anti-science crowd

+180 re: Stein... also though, this thread is the only thing keeping me sane right now and I'm worried if we fall too deep into the politics hole we won't be able to climb out of it. What if we talked about... favorite TV shows? Whose bingeing what on Netflix/Hulu right now? I highly recommend the new season of Master of None with Aziz Ansari if anyone is looking for something new to start (30 minute, comedy, but also very well done and unexpectedly cerebral at times).

BoJack Horseman is my favorite show in the world by a mile.

[mwells56]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

ooooooh boy you will be ripped to shreds in the off-topics if you make it there. A fellow C/O 2020 poster, bwaldorf, is certainly right of center. She has been harassed a bit for that because this site is super liberal. I personally am a small "l" libertarian. I usually vote left because of my social liberalness. I vote libertarian when it's an option, even though some of the platforms for the party are whacky. but otherwise often vote Dem. I vote for some repubs in the local elections because everyone in my area is pretty far right regardless of party affiliation.

Libertarians also get ripped to shreds on here. #TaxationIsTheft #DefendThe2nd #LegalizeFreedom

I voted for Gary in 2016

I describe myself as a small l libertarian as well, but in the old sense of the word. I'm a libertarian socialist, I probably identify mostly with Luxemburgism. Support a small central government and direct democracy, But I'm also an anti-capitalist, which puts me pretty far from the US Libertarian Party policy. Johnson might be slightly less awful than Clinton in my mind due to foreign policy alone, but I threw my vote away with Stein instead.

A buddy of mine is a photographer for our University newspaper and went to a Jill Stein recount rally. He said there were like 20 people there and it was sad.

[chargers21]

BoJack Horseman is my favorite show in the world by a mile.

I love BoJack, even after going into it thinking "what the fuck is this?"

[Future Ex-Engineer]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

Right to right-center. Mostly because of ideological/moral differences between myself and beliefs that come from what I believe about the world vs the left.

There are probably a few of us around here, we just tend to be quieter about our political leanings due to how numerous/outspoken the other side is. For me, I mostly don't engage in those sorts of discussions/arguments, because I've found they tend to work out *exactly* the same online as they do in person - no one changes their mind because everyone has already decided what/how they're going to believe/lean, so the argument typically does nothing more than make some people angry cause unneeded tension among otherwise-similar people.

What's the right of center? Conservatives, essentially? I'm fiscally conservative in my own country but not sure which political spectrum I identify with here in the States. Not fond of identity politics at all. Belief boils down to "let's mind our own businesses and not meddle with that of others". So where do I belong?

Right of center definitely = conservative in my mind. I'm fiscally conservative (this is somewhat complicated though - I believe we could cut the defense budget and still be fine, but that would require cleaning house and getting rid of bad/lazy gov't employees, and we all know that isn't going to happen) and morally/religiously conservative. Work for DoD as a contractor, so again, right-leaning in my thoughts on defense spending Red-blooded capitalism supporting American.

Lots of people would probably categorize me as 'traditional', but labels are stupid, so I try to avoid them

The difference between center right and far right to me is whether you are religious and conservative in your own actions, or whether you are religiously conservative and would like the government to legislate upon that ideology

Then I fit snugly in the center right category. Honestly DGAF about what other people do, and honestly I'd rather the gov't not determine how they are supposed to act. But I also would appreciate the same kind of behavior from the other side.

That whole thing gets complicated though - because I do have some political opinions about what should be legal/not legal based on what I see as a danger to society/myself, and other people don't see those same issues through the same lens. So while I might be opposed to something on a personal safety/decency opinion, someone else more right would probably be opposed to it for religious/ideological reasons, while someone else would be in favor of it because of a very different worldview.

This stuff is confusing and difficult.

[principalagent]

+180 re: Stein... also though, this thread is the only thing keeping me sane right now and I'm worried if we fall too deep into the politics hole we won't be able to climb out of it. What if we talked about... favorite TV shows? Whose bingeing what on Netflix/Hulu right now? I highly recommend the new season of Master of None with Aziz Ansari if anyone is looking for something new to start (30 minute, comedy, but also very well done and unexpectedly cerebral at times).

I started binging Transparent this weekend and it's amazing. Extremely great and nuanced treatment of issues around gender and sexuality and expression with a great amount of dark humor. Watched the first two seasons in about 48 hours and I couldn't recommend it enough.

[QueenBAYder]

While we're on the subject of politics, anyone else right of center? Or am I alone?

ooooooh boy you will be ripped to shreds in the off-topics if you make it there. A fellow C/O 2020 poster, bwaldorf, is certainly right of center. She has been harassed a bit for that because this site is super liberal. I personally am a small "l" libertarian. I usually vote left because of my social liberalness. I vote libertarian when it's an option, even though some of the platforms for the party are whacky. but otherwise often vote Dem. I vote for some repubs in the local elections because everyone in my area is pretty far right regardless of party affiliation.

Libertarians also get ripped to shreds on here. #TaxationIsTheft #DefendThe2nd #LegalizeFreedom

I voted for Gary in 2016

I describe myself as a small l libertarian as well, but in the old sense of the word. I'm a libertarian socialist, I probably identify mostly with Luxemburgism. Support a small central government and direct democracy, But I'm also an anti-capitalist, which puts me pretty far from the US Libertarian Party policy. Johnson might be slightly less awful than Clinton in my mind due to foreign policy alone, but I threw my vote away with Stein instead.

That's almost as far from LP libertarian policy as you can get. Probably closer to a reformed leftist party that I don't know of. Sorry about your vote for Stein, though. She lost me when she pandered to the anti-science crowd

+180 re: Stein... also though, this thread is the only thing keeping me sane right now and I'm worried if we fall too deep into the politics hole we won't be able to climb out of it. What if we talked about... favorite TV shows? Whose bingeing what on Netflix/Hulu right now? I highly recommend the new season of Master of None with Aziz Ansari if anyone is looking for something new to start (30 minute, comedy, but also very well done and unexpectedly cerebral at times).

BoJack Horseman is my favorite show in the world by a mile.

Love BoJack! If you like Will Arnett, are you an Arrested Development fan as well? I like most of his stuff but I thought Flaked was just "meh," I couldn't make it through the season.