Want to withdraw: how to persuade family...?? Forum

[francesfarmer]

If I were in your position I would try to get a job and move out.

Your parents sound like controlling jerks

[Chriz]

I think it might be time to cut the cord.

[Trajectory]

Came into this thinking it was close to my situation but far from it. I had to jump around test dates because I just kept improving (took a long time for me!) and my parents (and friends) just didnt understand, until I sat down and just explained this whole process. But at the end of the day YOU are the one thats going to be taking the test YOU have to feel read, its your future. As others have said, let them be mad for awhile. Withdrawal now, prep like a complete madman for October.

Withdrawal and tell them (or don't) ...hell go spend the night in your hotel if its already booked and cant be canceled.

[CyanIdes Of March]

I know I can do better if I have more time and I want to take the highest score I can have.
But my parents say if I can take above 160, they are satisfied...seems like they want me to finish the test as soon as possible.
I tried to persuade them...(like the things I said above) and do not know what other things I can say to persuade them...
What would you say if you were in my situation?

What would I say? I'd tell them to mind their own business. You've done the research and you know what you want out of this test. If you aren't feeling up to it yet and need more time, take it. You shouldn't be going to law school or taking this test until you've successfully transitioned out of adolescents. You are the one that has to live with the choices you make from this moment on, not them, so tell them to go to hell if they don't like it. That's what I'd say, but everyone's situation is different. My parents respect my decisions and pushed me toward independence, so I never had this particular problem but I've had friends/SO's that have and I understand that it is a mindset I am just completely unfamiliar with.

[RhymesLikeDimes]

Your parents are the worst kind of shitboomers. "Just get your JD, it doesn't matter where from" is the worst advice on the planet. They are dooming you to a crappy future just to suit their own idiotic whims. Did you graduate college at 15, or something? That's really the only way I could justify this behavior.

I'm not sure this will work, because their heads seem to be permanently wedged up their asses, but the best advice I can give is to find some articles/topics that talk about how important the LSAT is in determining where you go to school (and, consequently, how important where you go to school is in determining the quality of your legal career), and force them to read them. Show them where your ~160 LSAT will get you, and how pitiful the job prospects are there,

[TheMostDangerousLG]

I can't believe no one has said this yet: if can't make this decision on your own, you are not ready for graduate school.

Not to mention that once you get your June LSAT back, if you can't tell them no now, you're not going to be able to tell them no when they try to control your application cycle.

[Micdiddy]

Op, link them to this thread

[Clyde Frog]

This is why I was out of the house by 18.

[lsatyolo]

Tell them to suck your dick.

[15chocolate]

Um...they are good people, and I know they care about me and my future, and I think that's one of the reasons they want me to finish the test asap. (Cant explain the whole story but I know they care about me.)
But they are sometimes stubbrn and do not listen to or believe what I say...even I show proof, they say it's not always the case.
And when I made decisions which they did not like, they kept saying about it again and again (it happened before, they almost always talked about it when I skyped with them)...that bothers me sometimes...
But yeah, what all of you say is true...I have to make my own decision

Came into this thinking it was close to my situation but far from it. I had to jump around test dates because I just kept improving (took a long time for me!) and my parents (and friends) just didnt understand, until I sat down and just explained this whole process. But at the end of the day YOU are the one thats going to be taking the test YOU have to feel read, its your future. As others have said, let them be mad for awhile. Withdrawal now, prep like a complete madman for October.

Withdrawal and tell them (or don't) ...hell go spend the night in your hotel if its already booked and cant be canceled.

Can I ask how you persuaded them?

[Br3v]

Didnt read whole OP or thread, but I'm actually not against taking the test if you are PTing in the ballpark (5 points, maybe 7 or 8 ) of where you want to score on test day.

[SteelPenguin]

Didnt read whole OP or thread, but I'm actually not against taking the test if you are PTing in the ballpark (5 points, maybe 7 or 8 ) of where you want to score on test day.

5 - 8 points is an enormous jump and probably almost impossible.

[15chocolate]

Hey,
Thanks for ur responses.
I'll study till the very last minute and withdraw it if I still feel not ready...
I think I will go to the test center on the test day anyway, may want to just see what the test center looks like.
Does anyone know whether we can enter the test center without ad ticket (it's University) and see the classroom? May want to check the restroom etc too.
Thanks.

[jas1503]

Take it, cancel it, then write an addendum to law schools stating that your parents forced you to take it...

[15chocolate]

Um, I dont wanna do that...
Seeing all of your reactions, somewhat I feel my parents are unique...
They do say I can/have to make decisions by myself, but when I try to make decisions different from theirs, they tend to say "But, that would lead to..." or something like that and kept saying about it.
I didn't want to make them sad (and also afraid to make a mistake I think), but I may really need to think about how to deal with this...

[jingosaur]

Hey,
Thanks for ur responses.
I'll study till the very last minute and withdraw it if I still feel not ready...
I think I will go to the test center on the test day anyway, may want to just see what the test center looks like.
Does anyone know whether we can enter the test center without ad ticket (it's University) and see the classroom? May want to check the restroom etc too.
Thanks.

It depends on the test center. If you show up early or even the day before, you can normally walk around the building if you explain to security why you're there and why you want to see the test center. I did my first take at Fordham Law and I was able to check everything out before the test. Once registration starts though, you're definitely not allowed to be there.

[15chocolate]

Good to know, thanks

[SteelPenguin]

Take it, cancel it, then write an addendum to law schools stating that your parents forced you to take it...

If she does that, I think anything short of a 75% GPA/LSAT application would quickly get discarded at most schools.

If you're 22+ years old and your parents are controlling your application process and career path, you're probably not ready for law school. OP knows what the right thing to do is, but it appears OP is afraid to follow through with it.

[15chocolate]

Actually im a female
I think sexuality does not matter though...or maybe they are worried about me so much bc I'm a female. (no idea)

[jas1503]

Are you Asian?

[SteelPenguin]

Actually im a female
I think sexuality does not matter though...or maybe they are worried about me so much bc I'm a female. (no idea)

Sorry, online I just use he by default, since it is more likely to by correct.

[francesfarmer]

Actually im a female
I think sexuality does not matter though...or maybe they are worried about me so much bc I'm a female. (no idea)

Your parents are probably going to freak out if you disobey them, but you have to shut them down some time. They did raise you but they have no right to control you. You are an adult. Act like it. They're not going to disown you (and if they do, good riddance to people that cold-hearted).

[Mr. Frodo]

Just get online right now and withdraw from the June test. Tell them there is no benefit in taking the test before you are prepared. The October test will still get you to law school in the same amount of time. The June test doesn't get you into law school any quicker.

I postponed two tests before taking my LSAT and the rewards were great.

Don't take this test until you are ready. You should be entering law school because you want to, not for any reasons your parents or family can supply. I purposefully kept my family out of the loop in order to not have flack from them for postponing twice. If you score well on the LSAT there is no real difference between scoring well in June, Sept, or Oct.

[MrBlueSky!]

Chocolate,

I was in the exact position you were a year ago (June 2012 and February 13 Tests), and i am right now in the almost exact place this year (June 2013). The key difference between the 3 tests and 1 year is exactly applicable to where you are now.

June 2013: I, as of these past couple of weeks, have come to accept that I am not where I need to be in terms of PT scores. I am at the 160 range and as a URM, my goal is 165+. I have spent the last 3 months with extended family studying in an environment where I don't have to take a job (gasp, the thought of a 20s able body not working??..my parents hair, or all that's left of it, is anxiously about to fall off). So, to communicate withdrawing would be an absolute insult to whomever may be offended (parents, extended family)...BUT, we have developed such a level of trust and communication since 2012 that my life and decisions that make up my life are now 100% independent of theirs, with respect. It is out of you knowing what you need to do, the circumstances (of LS admissions), and who will be effected by the decision that should give you the bold confidence to not ask, but tell (rationally), that you've decided on October. It is the right thing to do. Don't worry about what others think. Which may be ironic advice because going to a top school (henceforth the importance LSAT score) may seem like it acknowledges "what others think," but in the end, this is your professional career/life. The legal market is stringently focused on hiring applicants from top schools. We didn't write the rules, but are motivated by them. So it simply a matter of whether or not those in your life choose to accept your passion to go to the best law school you can feasibly get into.

Talking points for you to use:
+ The admissions process is competitive
+October vs. June difference in speed of admissions is negligible
+5pt LSAT increase = Much better school
+5pt LSAT increase = Much more scholarship money

Best of luck for October.

[lsatyolo]

Are you Asian?

That or middle eastern