Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

(Please Ask Questions and Answer Questions)

Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner

Circus Ponies
45
75%
Omni Outliner
15
25%
 
Total votes: 60

User avatar
hoffb86
Posts: 313
Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:11 am

Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby hoffb86 » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:39 am

Yes I know there are a couple threads that discuss this, but I figured it would be beneficial to have one thread, dedicated to comparing these two programs, and seeing which one current mac users recommend.

So, which note-taking software (for Mac) is best?

Thoughts appreciated, not just poll results.

User avatar
hoffb86
Posts: 313
Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:11 am

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby hoffb86 » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:47 am

thanks steve that is definitely helpful.

User avatar
UTaylor526
Posts: 247
Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:45 am

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby UTaylor526 » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:18 pm

How do these products compare to simple Microsoft Word?

User avatar
UTaylor526
Posts: 247
Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:45 am

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby UTaylor526 » Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:23 pm

betasteve wrote:
UTaylor526 wrote:How do these products compare to simple Microsoft Word?

More features. Designed nearly specifically for outlining, taking notes, so geared towards doing so. Indicative fact: Even Microsoft created a note-taking software, One-Note.


Thanks.

User avatar
Garinold
Posts: 100
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 6:07 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby Garinold » Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:37 pm

For those of you that use, or have used Omni Outliner, did you make use of the recording feature to record the content of a classroom discussion? Did you make use of it to record yourself reading aloud a passage from your notes or supplement?

sophie316
Posts: 374
Joined: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:08 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby sophie316 » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:29 pm

I DLed both and after playing around for a bit I found CP easier to use. i also like that you can sync to do lists with ical(maybe you can do this on OO too I don't know)...it feels like a notebook, plus you can convert your notebooks to HTML and email it to yourself so you can view it anywhere, even on a non mac.

User avatar
dbt
Posts: 617
Joined: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:46 am

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby dbt » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:36 pm

Can anyone compare CP to One Note? I'm deciding between the best Mac note-taking software (which sounds like CP) or boot camp with One Note.

User avatar
Garinold
Posts: 100
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 6:07 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby Garinold » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:43 pm

sophie316 wrote:I DLed both and after playing around for a bit I found CP easier to use. i also like that you can sync to do lists with ical(maybe you can do this on OO too I don't know)...it feels like a notebook, plus you can convert your notebooks to HTML and email it to yourself so you can view it anywhere, even on a non mac.


This is interesting. So you can build an outline over the course of an entire semester, and when finals come around email it to yourself in HTML format, so you can use it on the PC side in case your school uses Widows only exam software.

sophie316
Posts: 374
Joined: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:08 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby sophie316 » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:51 pm

Garinold wrote:
sophie316 wrote:I DLed both and after playing around for a bit I found CP easier to use. i also like that you can sync to do lists with ical(maybe you can do this on OO too I don't know)...it feels like a notebook, plus you can convert your notebooks to HTML and email it to yourself so you can view it anywhere, even on a non mac.


This is interesting. So you can build an outline over the course of an entire semester, and when finals come around email it to yourself in HTML format, so you can use it on the PC side in case your school uses Widows only exam software.


Yeah it's pretty nifty. The tabs still work if you click on them, as do the index pages etc.

User avatar
General Tso
Posts: 2289
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:51 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby General Tso » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:10 pm

Garinold wrote:For those of you that use, or have used Omni Outliner, did you make use of the recording feature to record the content of a classroom discussion? Did you make use of it to record yourself reading aloud a passage from your notes or supplement?


I am interested in this as well.

Although it's tempting to try to record lectures, I don't think it would be all that helpful. Seems to be the consensus that the vast majority of class discussion will not be tested on the final exam.

User avatar
General Tso
Posts: 2289
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:51 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby General Tso » Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:35 pm

Order your MBP yet DA? Mine is shipping tomorrow :D :D :D

I'm geeked but now grappling with the realization that Apple has just hit me with a 1400$ CC charge :shock:

User avatar
VictoryFord
Posts: 86
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:19 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby VictoryFord » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:42 pm

i think im going to vmware onenote. pros/cons?

deadatheist
Posts: 234
Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:55 am

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby deadatheist » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:16 pm

swheat wrote:Order your MBP yet DA? Mine is shipping tomorrow :D :D :D

I'm geeked but now grappling with the realization that Apple has just hit me with a 1400$ CC charge :shock:


faancy stuff. thinking i'll go in person this weekend on my day off. also chatting with my dad about a little help with some of the extras i can see adding up: warranty and software, sleeve case, external hd maybe...

just don't want to get too compulsive here. last nite at about 1:30 i felt compelled to urgently purchase "getting to maybe" on amazon. why?! (you know, so i'll be better able to take exams, otherwise i'd be clueless?!) haa. no more school-related purchases for me. :)

deadatheist
Posts: 234
Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:55 am

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby deadatheist » Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:07 pm

sharing this from online. there doesn't seem to be much discourse comparing these two products. hoff, this thread is the first thing google shows when you type both into the search bar. will share anything else if i find anything...

What do you use to organize and track your notes? An outliner, organizer, notebook?

All of the above? Stop looking. Here’s my favorite list of Mac notebooks, from high end to low end and in between.

Organizing, note taking, outlining are all personal ventures on the Mac. It is, after all, the most personal of personal computers.

Most of us have different styles of taking in information, tracking notes, planning tasks for projects, and organizing things.

No single Mac utility, regardless of how good it is, will capture the fancy of all of us.

My list covers those notebooks, notetakers, outliners, trackers, and organizers that are worthy of consideration.

Notebook
In the middle range is Circus Ponies’ fabulous Notebook. Think of it as a digital legal pad that remembers everything forever.

Email, photos, graphics, documents, journal notes, images, all can be stored in Notebook.


The good news is that it stores and organizes almost everything.

The bad news is you have to learn how it does what it does to get it to do it.


Notetaker
AquaMinds is in tune with Mac users, as is Notetaker. It’s considered a personal note and idea organizer but does much more.

The learning curve is smooth and straightforward. Start with lists, outlines, notes, then move to collections of everything.

The similarities between Notebook and Notetaker are striking, so the spiral bound notebook metaphor is popular.

NoteShare
Sharing notes costs more money, and the Notetaker people have a place to collect. More expensive also means does more.

In this case, NoteShare comes off as more of a collaborative version of Notetaker. Others can share one of your notebooks from their Macs.

More money usually means more complexity. Not so with The Omni Group

OmniOutliner
For less than Notebook, OmniOutliner is similar in function, if not form. Remember outlines from school? That’s OmniOutliner.

Headings, subpoints, sub-subpoints are the logical starting point, but inside each you can cram in whatever you want.

Tasks, tracking projects, pop-up lists, notes, and more? More complexity can cost more. OmniOutliner Professional adds sections, styles, a clipping service, audio recording, and templates.


Process 2
Most of us take care of our details—notes, lists, outlines, and other information—using some sort of process we’ve developed through the years.

Jumsoft’s Process expands on the familiar hierarchical layout of most note and outliner applications with an attractive all-in-one interface.

Whatever you can grab or link can be attached to Process, and rearranged on a whim. PDFs, links, email, documents, movies, music, photos.

There’s even a built in calendar and the all-important Action menu, plus iCal sync. Process is for Tiger and takes advantage of OS X’s built-in CoreData to manage all your data.

Memoir
At the lower end are a host of notetaker, outliner, notebook applications that give less, cost less, but come with a lower learning curve.

Vortimac’s Memoir has a simple interface that lets you organize the application the way you organize yourself.

Mori
Hog Bay Software’s popular Notebook is no more, but a more flexible Mori has taken place as a superb tool with many faces.

You get to determine how you want Mori to organize; simple, complex, nested categories as folders, nested, nested, more nested.

More is easy, very easy to get started, and can grow to take on more complex requirements as your needs and abilities grow.

TopXNotes
Billing itself as a note pad, Tropical Software’s TopXNotes takes a slightly different approach to layout and organization, but with good results.

The outline metaphor is still in TopXNotes, but the look and feel is different, with more emphasis on notes and lists, rather than outlining.

Notae
The similarities among apps on my list appears to be text entry, an outline view, and flexibility. CodePoetry’s Notae is different and focuses on notetaking, as in word processing with styles and features.


More attention is paid to editing functions, importing and exporting text for other applications.

If notetaking is number one, Notae deserves a look.

xPad
Working on documents is important, otherwise, why are so many notes and documents organizers available? And why are they so good?

xPad is inexpensive as notetakers go, but combines more of the features of Apple’s own TextEdit and Stickies, with other document features, and organizing tools.

The auto save feature is particularly handy as is the export of documents to your iPod. Now all we need is a bigger screen on the iPod.

Summary
No single application gets the nod as Best of Breed, because all do what they do very well, and, since your mileage may vary, and your organizing and notes requirements vary, I’ll narrow the list to my three favorites.

Tops in function and complexity is Circus Ponies’ Notebook. The familiar legal pad look and standard outline approach is hard to beat. So is the list of features. So is the learning curve.

At the low end is the gem of the group, Hog Bay Software’s Mori. Mac applications should be elegant and intuitive and not clutter your mind with the “how do I do this?” syndrome.

Mori is flexible, powerful, but very easy to get going, and quickly adapts to your way of organizing.

Up and coming and right in the middle of the pack is Process 2. Extensive feature list, easy learning curve, and Mac-like way of handling information.

You can’t go wrong with any on the list, you may not do better, you will not have more fun trying to track your notes, outline your projects, and manage all you touch each day.

User avatar
hoffb86
Posts: 313
Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:11 am

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby hoffb86 » Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:14 pm

deadatheist - that is pretty crazy, to think that these haven't been compared before, and this thread is the only one doing so? kinda strange, no?

deadatheist
Posts: 234
Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:55 am

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby deadatheist » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:32 pm

^i know.

Quick quick q: what's the cost of the program(s) (circus ponies in particular), and where are you all buying it from? Thanks!

User avatar
General Tso
Posts: 2289
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:51 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby General Tso » Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:03 pm

you can get an academic license of Circus Ponies for $29.95 from the company website

not sure about the others

User avatar
Helmholtz
Posts: 4394
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:48 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby Helmholtz » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:37 pm

VictoryFord wrote:i think im going to vmware onenote. pros/cons?


I just downloaded an app called Crossover that lets you run native Windows programs like OneNote on Mac without having to install windows. The Windows applications just run on OSX pretty seamlessly. Voila:
--ImageRemoved--

User avatar
General Tso
Posts: 2289
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:51 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby General Tso » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:47 pm

Sweet program Helmholtz

Is the $60 office ultimate + crossover worthwhile? I already have office 2003 on xp and office 2004 on leopard.

EDIT: I checked the crossover site...apparently you do lose some functionality with programs like OneNote
http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibilit ... search=app

User avatar
Helmholtz
Posts: 4394
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:48 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby Helmholtz » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:07 pm

swheat wrote:Sweet program Helmholtz

Is the $60 office ultimate + crossover worthwhile? I already have office 2003 on xp and office 2004 on leopard.

EDIT: I checked the crossover site...apparently you do lose some functionality with programs like OneNote
http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibilit ... search=app


Hmm...it seems to be running pretty smoothly for me so far. But if others have experienced bugs with it, this might not be the best road to take.

User avatar
JPeavy44
Posts: 101
Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:57 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby JPeavy44 » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:17 pm

Helmholtz wrote:
VictoryFord wrote:i think im going to vmware onenote. pros/cons?


I just downloaded an app called Crossover that lets you run native Windows programs like OneNote on Mac without having to install windows. The Windows applications just run on OSX pretty seamlessly. Voila:
--ImageRemoved--


Are you using standard or pro? Does it run slower compared to native mac apps?

User avatar
Helmholtz
Posts: 4394
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:48 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby Helmholtz » Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:21 pm

JPeavy44 wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:
VictoryFord wrote:i think im going to vmware onenote. pros/cons?


I just downloaded an app called Crossover that lets you run native Windows programs like OneNote on Mac without having to install windows. The Windows applications just run on OSX pretty seamlessly. Voila:
--ImageRemoved--


Are you using standard or pro? Does it run slower compared to native mac apps?


Standard Macbook. 4GB of ram. It runs pretty smoothly, maybe a tad slower than native Mac apps, but nowhere compared to Parallels running XP.

User avatar
General Tso
Posts: 2289
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:51 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby General Tso » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:04 pm

I think he was asking about the Standard or Pro version of Crossover

Standard is 39 Pro is 69$ i believe

User avatar
Helmholtz
Posts: 4394
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:48 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby Helmholtz » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:06 pm

swheat wrote:I think he was asking about the Standard or Pro version of Crossover

Standard is 39 Pro is 69$ i believe


Sorry, you're probably right. I'm using Pro, there was a pretty significant educational discount IIRC.

User avatar
Garinold
Posts: 100
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 6:07 pm

Re: Circus Ponies v. Omni Outliner (mac note-taking)

Postby Garinold » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:31 pm

I can see from the demos and descriptions that Notebook seems to have more diversity in the applications that it offers. However, in terms of outlining alone, how do the two programs compare? Can you argue that Notebook's outlining capability is superior to Omni Outliner Pro, or is this at least the area where Omni Outliner takes the advantage?

Furthermore, lets say you are using notebook and you wanted to cut some notes that you took on a separate page in the Cornell layout, and paste them into a separate outline page, could you do that? Or could you use the note taking templates the notebook has in the outlining page?




Return to “Law School FAQ”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests