Georgetown possibly slipping off the t-14 Forum

gnomgnomuch · Post by **gnomgnomuch** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:07 pm

So it seems that the past few years has seen GT getting steadily worse (its still an obviously amazing school). Even though t-14 hasn't ever changed except for that year when there was 2 t-14 schools, is it possible for GT to slide down to 15-18 and a school like UCLA/TEXAS taking over its spot? This is all hypothetical, I'm just curious about what you all think

rad lulz · Post by **rad lulz** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:08 pm

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Icculus · Post by **Icculus** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:13 pm

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Mal Reynolds · Post by **Mal Reynolds** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:13 pm

Mab2013 · Post by **Mab2013** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:31 pm

gnomgnomuch wrote:So it seems that the past few years has seen GT getting steadily worse (its still an obviously amazing school). Even though t-14 hasn't ever changed except for that year when there was 2 t-14 schools, is it possible for GT to slide down to 15-18 and a school like UCLA/TEXAS taking over its spot? This is all hypothetical, I'm just curious about what you all think

Why are you forgetting Vandy, which has made an impressive climb up.

gnomgnomuch · Post by **gnomgnomuch** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:08 am

Im not discounting Vandy either, I just feel that Texas has a better shot at cracking the T-14 since its already "cracked" it once, and then I take UCLA because it the next down on the ranking.

californiauser · Post by **californiauser** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:57 pm

If Georgetown drops out, there won't be a new T14 member. It will become the T13.

Kikero · Post by **Kikero** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:07 pm

californiauser wrote:If Georgetown drops out, there won't be a new T14 member. It will become the T13.

Right, Texas tying for the 14th spot didn't make a T15. The T14 is composed of schools that have always been the top 14 ranked schools since rankings came out, if Georgetown drops to 15, it won't meet the criteria anymore, but neither will whoever ends up in the 14th spot.

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:12 pm

Kikero wrote:
californiauser wrote:If Georgetown drops out, there won't be a new T14 member. It will become the T13.
Right, Texas tying for the 14th spot didn't make a T15. The T14 is composed of schools that have always been the top 14 ranked schools since rankings came out, if Georgetown drops to 15, it won't meet the criteria anymore, but neither will whoever ends up in the 14th spot.

Would you guys stop repeating this retarded meme.

The t14 is the 14 national elite schools. USNEWS didn't create it. Gtown could be 57 next year and guess what? It's still fucking T14.

stillwater · Post by **stillwater** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:15 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Kikero wrote:
californiauser wrote:If Georgetown drops out, there won't be a new T14 member. It will become the T13.
Right, Texas tying for the 14th spot didn't make a T15. The T14 is composed of schools that have always been the top 14 ranked schools since rankings came out, if Georgetown drops to 15, it won't meet the criteria anymore, but neither will whoever ends up in the 14th spot.
Would you guys stop repeating this retarded meme.

The t14 is the 14 national elite schools. USNEWS didn't create it. Gtown could be 57 next year and guess what? It's still fucking T14.

yeaaaaaa. stfu fools

Mab2013 · Post by **Mab2013** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:34 pm

stillwater wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Kikero wrote:
californiauser wrote:If Georgetown drops out, there won't be a new T14 member. It will become the T13.
Right, Texas tying for the 14th spot didn't make a T15. The T14 is composed of schools that have always been the top 14 ranked schools since rankings came out, if Georgetown drops to 15, it won't meet the criteria anymore, but neither will whoever ends up in the 14th spot.
Would you guys stop repeating this retarded meme.

The t14 is the 14 national elite schools. USNEWS didn't create it. Gtown could be 57 next year and guess what? It's still fucking T14.
yeaaaaaa. stfu fools

You guys are forgetting about Vandy

Ti Malice · Post by **Ti Malice** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:38 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Kikero wrote:
californiauser wrote:If Georgetown drops out, there won't be a new T14 member. It will become the T13.
Right, Texas tying for the 14th spot didn't make a T15. The T14 is composed of schools that have always been the top 14 ranked schools since rankings came out, if Georgetown drops to 15, it won't meet the criteria anymore, but neither will whoever ends up in the 14th spot.
Would you guys stop repeating this retarded meme.

The t14 is the 14 national elite schools. USNEWS didn't create it. Gtown could be 57 next year and guess what? It's still fucking T14.

Exactly. The only reason that the USNWR rankings are a quarter-notch above dangerously useless is the fact that their ranking system manages not to screw up when it comes to listing the fourteen traditionally elite law schools within its own top fourteen.

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:38 pm

Mab2013 wrote:
stillwater wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Kikero wrote:
Right, Texas tying for the 14th spot didn't make a T15. The T14 is composed of schools that have always been the top 14 ranked schools since rankings came out, if Georgetown drops to 15, it won't meet the criteria anymore, but neither will whoever ends up in the 14th spot.
Would you guys stop repeating this retarded meme.

The t14 is the 14 national elite schools. USNEWS didn't create it. Gtown could be 57 next year and guess what? It's still fucking T14.
yeaaaaaa. stfu fools
You guys are forgetting about Vandy

Every northerner ever: Vanderbelt? Is that something in my BMW?

Ti Malice · Post by **Ti Malice** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:41 pm

Mab2013 wrote: You guys are forgetting about Vandy

No one is forgetting Vandy. It's one of the four strongest regional schools (along with UT, UCLA, and USC), but it's not a nationally elite school, and it isn't close to being one.

Mab2013 · Post by **Mab2013** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:50 pm

Ti Malice wrote:
Mab2013 wrote: You guys are forgetting about Vandy
No one is forgetting Vandy. It's one of the four strongest regional schools (along with UT, UCLA, and USC), but it's not a nationally elite school, and it isn't close to being one.

You know, I would only consider the top 6 schools "nationally elite" . How portable is a degree from NW or Cornell nationally. lets be honest.

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:00 pm

Mab2013 wrote:
Ti Malice wrote:
Mab2013 wrote: You guys are forgetting about Vandy
No one is forgetting Vandy. It's one of the four strongest regional schools (along with UT, UCLA, and USC), but it's not a nationally elite school, and it isn't close to being one.
You know, I would only consider the top 6 schools "nationally elite" . How portable is a degree from NW or Cornell nationally. lets be honest.

I'd bet Cornell and NW are no less national than CCN. I bet NW has more actual geographic diversity in placement than all of the above, but probably because of self selection.

laotze · Post by **laotze** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:39 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Mab2013 wrote:
Ti Malice wrote:
Mab2013 wrote: You guys are forgetting about Vandy
No one is forgetting Vandy. It's one of the four strongest regional schools (along with UT, UCLA, and USC), but it's not a nationally elite school, and it isn't close to being one.
You know, I would only consider the top 6 schools "nationally elite" . How portable is a degree from NW or Cornell nationally. lets be honest.
I'd bet Cornell and NW are no less national than CCN. I bet NW has more actual geographic diversity in placement than all of the above, but probably because of self selection.

Self-selection? And probably still not as much as Michigan, because Michigan.

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:48 pm

laotze wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Mab2013 wrote:
Ti Malice wrote: No one is forgetting Vandy. It's one of the four strongest regional schools (along with UT, UCLA, and USC), but it's not a nationally elite school, and it isn't close to being one.
You know, I would only consider the top 6 schools "nationally elite" . How portable is a degree from NW or Cornell nationally. lets be honest.
I'd bet Cornell and NW are no less national than CCN. I bet NW has more actual geographic diversity in placement than all of the above, but probably because of self selection.
Self-selection? And probably still not as much as Michigan, because Michigan.

People at CCN go to NYC because they want to.

I bet Michigan is even more than NW too.

laotze · Post by **laotze** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:54 pm

Desert Fox wrote: People at CCN go to NYC because they want to.

Yeah, I meant to agree with that. Don't know what was with my weird wording.

Desert Fox wrote:I bet Michigan is even more than NW too.

At least NW has the Chicago market. I don't think many non-native Michiganers seriously consider Detroit as anything but the most desperate of last resorts.

Mal Reynolds · Post by **Mal Reynolds** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:01 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:

rad lulz · Post by **rad lulz** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:11 pm

Icculus wrote:
rad lulz wrote:Employers feeling GULC in DROVES
FEEL ME.....TOUCH ME....HEAL ME

The feels

When you realize Texas a T14 and GULC isn't

californiauser · Post by **californiauser** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:18 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Kikero wrote:
californiauser wrote:If Georgetown drops out, there won't be a new T14 member. It will become the T13.
Right, Texas tying for the 14th spot didn't make a T15. The T14 is composed of schools that have always been the top 14 ranked schools since rankings came out, if Georgetown drops to 15, it won't meet the criteria anymore, but neither will whoever ends up in the 14th spot.
Would you guys stop repeating this retarded meme.

The t14 is the 14 national elite schools. USNEWS didn't create it. Gtown could be 57 next year and guess what? It's still fucking T14.

Meh, there's no hard and fast official rule for T14. Tons of people on here refer to it as the T13 now since GULC tied with another non-T14. I'd be willing to bet TLS/the internet could change the meaning of T13/T14 over time.

laotze · Post by **laotze** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:19 pm

californiauser wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
Kikero wrote:
californiauser wrote:If Georgetown drops out, there won't be a new T14 member. It will become the T13.
Right, Texas tying for the 14th spot didn't make a T15. The T14 is composed of schools that have always been the top 14 ranked schools since rankings came out, if Georgetown drops to 15, it won't meet the criteria anymore, but neither will whoever ends up in the 14th spot.
Would you guys stop repeating this retarded meme.

The t14 is the 14 national elite schools. USNEWS didn't create it. Gtown could be 57 next year and guess what? It's still fucking T14.
Meh, there's no hard and fast official rule for T14. Tons of people on here refer to it as the T13 now since GULC tied with another non-T14. I'd be willing to bet TLS/the internet could change the meaning of T13/T14 over time.

There's already way more positive sentiment across the intarwebz for UT than for GULC, in my completely unscientific opinion.

sinfiery · Post by **sinfiery** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:52 pm

Because UT actually charges their instate students something venturing close to a reasonable tuition cost. UT is awesome, GTOWN leaves you broke for the next decade

Mab2013 · Post by **Mab2013** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:09 pm

It's this obsession with the T14 that's killing me. I don't see a big gap between UT/Vandy/UCLA and the other schools in the 9-14 range

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