OperaSoprano wrote:How did they react, though? Did you get the feeling that they were forbidden to answer questions, but felt badly about it? If the person on the phone was not rude or condescending, this might not be a horrible situation, although I concede that it is far from ideal. Has anyone tried this at other schools? I just want to know if this policy is Fordham specific.
They were polite and directed me to the information on the website. I got the feeling that it was the policy not to answer any questions from students who haven't matriculated yet. Though I think this might be a new policy (makes me wonder why they would enact a new policy like that now). I called a few months ago and was told I could set up an appointment. I never got around to it until now.
Yeah, this is policy. Right now they're pretty busy preparing for OCI and, frankly, there's no reason for them to be speaking to you now. Under ABA rules you won't be able to apply for work until (I think) November 15th?
OperaSoprano wrote:Thank you for answering me. I was specifically curious about how non-biglaw hiring is handled. I hope to have grades that will speak for me, since I hate hustling. I know I will need them anyway, since I don't have a degree from an Ivy (or similar) on my resume. I think my employment expectations are reasonable; I know that if I take a non-profit job, I will almost certainly start out below $50k. Fortunately, I think I should be good for that LRAP...
For most positions, your undergrad really does not matter at this stage. Ivy students have to hustle just as much as you will. For PI, you'll have two opportunities to explore the field in a more formal manner: Equal Justice Works in DC and Public Interest Fair at NYU. Equal Justice Works is before the ABA cutoff, so they really don't care for 1Ls--the school, however, will give you money to travel and hotel room (if you split with another student, otherwise you pay half), and you'll get opportunity to talk to many of the governmental employers, just not to interview. The career fair is where you will get your internship for next summer, most likely. Hiring is done in a very similar manner to OCI: you have a limited amount of bids, you submit them to employers you're interested in, they set up a schedule.
OperaSoprano wrote:Until very recently, I was working full time. I quit my job (with very strong justification), and I will be looking for volunteer/internship opportunities for the summer, and likely into the Fall. I have heard, though, that the top part time students do not work. There is one more thing I wondered about the evening program; is there any way to take additional classes prior to the summer? I had given some thought to studying or interning abroad my 1L summer, but this would be a bit of a challenge if I had two classes to complete in New York. I am otherwise very happy to be in the evening program, since I took most of my classes at night in undergrad, by choice.
Top part time students definitely do not work, and as a result, they have an edge on the other students. On the other hand, don't you think that employers realize by looking at the transcript that a top PT student just gunned in the library for the entire day? If you do a part-time internship, say 20 hours, you'll have plenty of time to work and to study, and you can do just as well as any gunner. I don't know anything about taking classes *prior* to the summer, but I doubt it. If you have the money to go abroad next summer, you'll get the credits you need. On the other hand, if you just get an internship, then you'll only get 3 credits (externship) which will not be enough. Your best bet is to stay in NY, take a full-time internship (unpaid) for externship credit + Stein or FSSF funding, and take one night class. For all intents and purposes, that will probably be enough, but I don't know if there are some specific PT requirements that may come into play.