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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lavitz » Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:48 pm

igotolawschool wrote:That was a compliment, I hope it came off that way!

Yes. It's fine.

I just thought you were making a reference to a certain inside joke. Don't worry about it. :wink:

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby HarveyGrutz » Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:10 pm

Anyone know the timeline for CALIs and/or if they're given out for clinics? My professor mentioned them but he/she may have been mistaken.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lavitz » Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:16 pm

HarveyGrutz wrote:Anyone know the timeline for CALIs and/or if they're given out for clinics? My professor mentioned them but he/she may have been mistaken.

I heard around 2 weeks.

No idea about clinics though.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby hephaestus » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:48 am

HarveyGrutz wrote:Anyone know the timeline for CALIs and/or if they're given out for clinics? My professor mentioned them but he/she may have been mistaken.

For doctrinal classes you get a letter in your flex a week or two after the semester starts. Not sure about clinics though.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby toothbrush » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:59 am

Not Cornell specific but maybe someone knows. Lets say I was awarded $1000 federal unsub. loan with my financial aid package. In the fall they disperse 500, and in the spring the remaining 500. I didn't take my 500 in the fall. I accepted it this spring but was only dispersed 500. Can I get the remaining amount from the fall, or is that no longer possible?

I'd ask FA, but apparently they're closed?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:00 am

ImNoScar wrote:
HarveyGrutz wrote:Anyone know the timeline for CALIs and/or if they're given out for clinics? My professor mentioned them but he/she may have been mistaken.

For doctrinal classes you get a letter in your flex a week or two after the semester starts. Not sure about clinics though.


You get an email.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby kemosabe » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:23 am

Hello Cornell Student/s,

I am an admitted student with an interest in Boston. NYC is my second choice market. I see that over half of the class ends up in NYC. Do you know how those gunning for Boston tend to fare? I'm also wondering if it would be appropriate for me to ask career services or admissions about certain statistics (percentage of grads who go to Boston, SA positions, number of firms coming to OCI, etc.). Lastly, is there anything outside of Need Access and FAFSA that I will need to complete in order to make myself eligible for scholarships?

Thanks very much for any insight that you're able to provide!

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:59 am

kemosabe wrote:Hello Cornell Student/s,

I am an admitted student with an interest in Boston. NYC is my second choice market. I see that over half of the class ends up in NYC. Do you know how those gunning for Boston tend to fare? I'm also wondering if it would be appropriate for me to ask career services or admissions about certain statistics (percentage of grads who go to Boston, SA positions, number of firms coming to OCI, etc.). Lastly, is there anything outside of Need Access and FAFSA that I will need to complete in order to make myself eligible for scholarships?

Thanks very much for any insight that you're able to provide!


If you have substantial Boston ties and do well, you should have no problem. It's difficult to gauge, however, how you would do without doing well- everyone I know who is going to Boston is in the top of the class and on law review (with one exception re: law review). It is completely appropriate to ask for those statistics from Cornell, but they may not have them or give them.

My year there are 4 people going to Boston vault firms (2x Wilmer, 1x Goodwin, 1x Skadden). There also usually is one offer to Ropes Boston (it's offered one at a time in order of preference, from the look of it).

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lavitz » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:59 pm

kemosabe wrote:Lastly, is there anything outside of Need Access and FAFSA that I will need to complete in order to make myself eligible for scholarships?

Assuming you're already admitted, you would submit the one-page financial aid information sheet available on this page.

If you want to be eligible for need-based aid, you'd also have to submit your tax returns and your parents' tax returns for 2013. You have to submit your own tax returns anyway if you want federal loans.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lincoln » Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:16 pm

Arbiter213 wrote:
kemosabe wrote:Hello Cornell Student/s,

I am an admitted student with an interest in Boston. NYC is my second choice market. I see that over half of the class ends up in NYC. Do you know how those gunning for Boston tend to fare? I'm also wondering if it would be appropriate for me to ask career services or admissions about certain statistics (percentage of grads who go to Boston, SA positions, number of firms coming to OCI, etc.). Lastly, is there anything outside of Need Access and FAFSA that I will need to complete in order to make myself eligible for scholarships?

Thanks very much for any insight that you're able to provide!


If you have substantial Boston ties and do well, you should have no problem. It's difficult to gauge, however, how you would do without doing well- everyone I know who is going to Boston is in the top of the class and on law review (with one exception re: law review). It is completely appropriate to ask for those statistics from Cornell, but they may not have them or give them.

My year there are 4 people going to Boston vault firms (2x Wilmer, 1x Goodwin, 1x Skadden). There also usually is one offer to Ropes Boston (it's offered one at a time in order of preference, from the look of it).


I know at least two non-LR, non–cum laude ppl from my year at good Boston firms, but yes, Boston is a small market with lots of good law schools = tough competition for jobs.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby kemosabe » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:41 pm

Thank you everyone! That was quite helpful, and prompt. Boston does seem tough to crack in general. I suppose that in any scenario, it'd be foolish of me to totally swear off NYC considering all of the opportunities which are there in contrast.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lincoln » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:17 am

kemosabe wrote:Thank you everyone! That was quite helpful, and prompt. Boston does seem tough to crack in general. I suppose that in any scenario, it'd be foolish of me to totally swear off NYC considering all of the opportunities which are there in contrast.


No reason you can't do both. I interviewed in two markets and got offers in both.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:47 am

Lincoln wrote:
kemosabe wrote:Thank you everyone! That was quite helpful, and prompt. Boston does seem tough to crack in general. I suppose that in any scenario, it'd be foolish of me to totally swear off NYC considering all of the opportunities which are there in contrast.


No reason you can't do both. I interviewed in two markets and got offers in both.


Though in your case it likely helped you're a bit of a man with no country re: specific markets.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lincoln » Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:34 am

Arbiter213 wrote:Though in your case it likely helped you're a bit of a man with no country re: specific markets.


Maybe, but I had lived in both cities in which I interviewed, so it wasn't a total blank slate.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby kemosabe » Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:52 am

Lincoln wrote:
kemosabe wrote:Thank you everyone! That was quite helpful, and prompt. Boston does seem tough to crack in general. I suppose that in any scenario, it'd be foolish of me to totally swear off NYC considering all of the opportunities which are there in contrast.


No reason you can't do both. I interviewed in two markets and got offers in both.



Yeah that'd definitely be the plan. I'd probably bid Boston/NYC and sprinkle the remainder on whatever remnants of biglaw exist elsewhere in New England and eastern NY.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:13 am

kemosabe wrote:and eastern NY.


wut

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby oldad » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:27 pm

Arbiter213 wrote:
kemosabe wrote:and eastern NY.


wut



Albany, bro.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby kemosabe » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:42 pm

oldad wrote:
Arbiter213 wrote:
kemosabe wrote:and eastern NY.


wut



Albany, bro.


Ha yeah, that's what I was getting at. I probably could have just said Albany considering there isn't much else around that area. I've noticed a handful of biglaw firms have offices in places like Albany and Stamford, CT. I'm just beginning my research on this, so I don't have a great understanding of how the hiring works for these places. Ever heard of a Cornell grad getting biglaw in Albany?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Lincoln » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:07 pm

kemosabe wrote:
Ha yeah, that's what I was getting at. I probably could have just said Albany considering there isn't much else around that area. I've noticed a handful of biglaw firms have offices in places like Albany and Stamford, CT. I'm just beginning my research on this, so I don't have a great understanding of how the hiring works for these places. Ever heard of a Cornell grad getting biglaw in Albany?


No. But I also haven't heard of anyone trying very hard. Many a all offices do not have summer programs.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:34 pm

Lincoln wrote:
kemosabe wrote:
Ha yeah, that's what I was getting at. I probably could have just said Albany considering there isn't much else around that area. I've noticed a handful of biglaw firms have offices in places like Albany and Stamford, CT. I'm just beginning my research on this, so I don't have a great understanding of how the hiring works for these places. Ever heard of a Cornell grad getting biglaw in Albany?


No. But I also haven't heard of anyone trying very hard. Many a all offices do not have summer programs.


I know of someone getting a firm in Albany. I don't know if it would be considered Big Law or not.

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby kemosabe » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:00 pm

Thanks again guys. Looking forward to visiting and learning more!

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby CR2012 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:34 pm

Will we ever find out what the actual curve was for 1L Fall Semester?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:04 pm

CR2012 wrote:Will we ever find out what the actual curve was for 1L Fall Semester?


They publish a book with each class's grade distribution. There's not actually a unified curve, because not everyone has the same professors. That said, it's almost certainly something like a 3.48

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby toothbrush » Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:28 pm

Arbiter213 wrote:
CR2012 wrote:Will we ever find out what the actual curve was for 1L Fall Semester?


They publish a book with each class's grade distribution. There's not actually a unified curve, because not everyone has the same professors. That said, it's almost certainly something like a 3.48

You think 40% of the class is within .29 of each other?

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Re: Cornell 1L taking questions

Postby Arbiter213 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:38 pm

toothbrush wrote:
Arbiter213 wrote:
CR2012 wrote:Will we ever find out what the actual curve was for 1L Fall Semester?


They publish a book with each class's grade distribution. There's not actually a unified curve, because not everyone has the same professors. That said, it's almost certainly something like a 3.48

You think 40% of the class is within .29 of each other?


Explain what you mean?




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