2023-2024 Post-Clerkship Hiring Forum

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone who applied to a BL or boutique firm in Late December or later received an offer yet?
If yes, from where?

[Anonymous User]

I know it's early in the process, but I'm feeling absolutely defeated. I'm targeting DC and so far I've been dinged at: McDermott, PW, Arnold & Porter, and W&C. Otherwise ghosted.

I have friends at some of those firms who pulled for me and still nothing. Thought something could be wrong with my app materials but I had several trusted friends and advisors review them. Guess there's not much left to do but continue to network and hope for the best.

Stats:
T-20; 3.85 GPA; Order of the Coif; Order of Barristers
D. Ct. clerkship, SSC clerkship, and current Cir. clerkship with a well-respected judge.

Wow. This is ridiculous. You should have received multiple interview offers with those credentials.

This really is ridiculous. I'm getting passed up by these firms too, but my stats are nowhere as awesome as yours (low GPA and regional school). Honestly assumed interviews and screeners were going to candidates like you. Really goes to show how bad this market is. Why is it so incredibly difficult to get any bites this year?

Got dinged from another firm today where my D. Ct. judge worked and has friends who are partners there. My judge called to recommend me and they told my judge that people in our positions are considered "too expensive" to hire--at least this year.

I'm not sure how to relay to firms I've already applied to that I'm flexible on class year credit. But I think for new applications I may add something to my cover letter. Blows my mind though. I was told that multiple clerkships are beloved by firms and I guess that's not the full story in today's market. Fingers crossed for you. Just keep plugging away. I had a friend go through a similar situation last year and only got one interview. But that's all he needed as he is now making an ungodly amount of money at that firm.

If I had to guess I think the fact that you have three clerkships might be the issue. I think it is important to signal that you are not expecting three years of class credit.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone who applied to a BL or boutique firm in Late December or later received an offer yet?
If yes, from where?

I applied in December to a mix of both boutique and Big Law and have received some offers from the boutiques but have just recently been doing screeners and callbacks for the Big Law firms.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone who applied to a BL or boutique firm in Late December or later received an offer yet?
If yes, from where?

Applied to a bunch and so far just a couple screeners and callbacks. Boutique-ish places seem to be moving first.

[Anonymous User]

has anyone heard back from Morgan Lewis Chicago or NY?
Particularly if you applied in Dec/Jan.

[Anonymous User]

has anyone heard back from WLRK, Selendy Gay, or Kellogg?

[Anon2398273]

This is correct to an extent. Each office chooses who they want to interview and who they want to put up for a vote. But interviews and votes are conducted across all four offices--i.e. a candidate for Seattle will get an interview from the Seattle office and will be put up for a vote by the Seattle office, but will be interviewed by attorneys in all four offices, and all four offices vote on his/her candidacy.

Wow that sounds like it takes forever then? lol

Not at all. We're still interviewing everybody remotely. Folks from each office participate in the interviewing process, but its not four separate full-day interviews.

Oh I see, I thought you meant that everyone in the firm across four offices was voting on these people rather than just the interviewers

Everyone at the firm votes on whether to give an offer--from the Managing Partners down to the newest associate--but the vote is done based on feedback from the interviewers.

Do you have a sense for how many (or what percentage) of spots remain for each office? Is it too late to apply at this point?

I don't know specifics (i'm not on the employment committee), but I do know that we're still actively interviewing. If you're interested in applying for Fall 2024 I would do so ASAP.

Do you have an estimate of how long it takes between first and second interview?

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have intel on where Susman Godfrey is at in their hiring process? How long can an applicant expect to wait between an interview and offer/rejection?

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have intel on where Susman Godfrey is at in their hiring process? How long can an applicant expect to wait between an interview and offer/rejection?

Wondering the same. Assuming a rejection, but curious still

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have intel on where Susman Godfrey is at in their hiring process? How long can an applicant expect to wait between an interview and offer/rejection?

Wondering the same. Assuming a rejection, but curious still

Do you know of anyone who has heard back with an offer yet?

[Anonymous User]

Anyone with info on Patterson belknap or debevoise NY for positions starting this fall? I applied last month and haven’t heard anything.

[Anonymous User]

Anyone with info on Patterson belknap or debevoise NY for positions starting this fall? I applied last month and haven’t heard anything.

I was rejected from debevoise NY yesterday. Applied late december

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have intel on where Susman Godfrey is at in their hiring process? How long can an applicant expect to wait between an interview and offer/rejection?

Wondering the same. Assuming a rejection, but curious still

Do you know of anyone who has heard back with an offer yet?

No lol my only source of info on SG is this forum

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have intel on where Susman Godfrey is at in their hiring process? How long can an applicant expect to wait between an interview and offer/rejection?

Wondering the same. Assuming a rejection, but curious still

Do you know of anyone who has heard back with an offer yet?

No lol my only source of info on SG is this forum

When did you interview? Honestly so stressed by this tentative rejection

[Anonymous User]

Anyone hear from Susman or know how their process works?

Don't know how their process works. But applied in December. Got my rejection back in about two weeks or so.

Also got my rejection quickly (within days).

Ah okay, sorry to hear! I haven’t heard much about them, so was just curious whether they were moving and giving offers and interviews.

Current SG associate. We're actively interviewing and giving offers.

FWIW, some offices seem to be taking longer to consider the candidate pool before moving forward with offers than others.

Thanks for the insight! And Susman is 2 rounds of interviews?

Same SG associate. TBH i'm not entirely sure right now, as there recently was a change in the policy. I think its only one now (after a screener, if any) but don't quote me on that.

How long does it generally take between (full) interview and offer?

[Anonymous User]

Anyone with info on Patterson belknap or debevoise NY for positions starting this fall? I applied last month and haven’t heard anything.

Patterson has given out a couple offers and a couple dings.

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have intel on where Susman Godfrey is at in their hiring process? How long can an applicant expect to wait between an interview and offer/rejection?

Wondering the same. Assuming a rejection, but curious still

Do you know of anyone who has heard back with an offer yet?

No lol my only source of info on SG is this forum

When did you interview? Honestly so stressed by this tentative rejection

About a month ago

[Anonymous User]

Any movement from Quinn chicago?

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have intel on where Susman Godfrey is at in their hiring process? How long can an applicant expect to wait between an interview and offer/rejection?

Wondering the same. Assuming a rejection, but curious still

Do you know of anyone who has heard back with an offer yet?

No lol my only source of info on SG is this forum

When did you interview? Honestly so stressed by this tentative rejection

About a month ago

Which office? Feel free to give me 2 options if more comfortable

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have intel on where Susman Godfrey is at in their hiring process? How long can an applicant expect to wait between an interview and offer/rejection?

Wondering the same. Assuming a rejection, but curious still

Do you know of anyone who has heard back with an offer yet?

No lol my only source of info on SG is this forum

When did you interview? Honestly so stressed by this tentative rejection

About a month ago

Which office? Feel free to give me 2 options if more comfortable

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have intel on where Susman Godfrey is at in their hiring process? How long can an applicant expect to wait between an interview and offer/rejection?

Wondering the same. Assuming a rejection, but curious still

Do you know of anyone who has heard back with an offer yet?

No lol my only source of info on SG is this forum

When did you interview? Honestly so stressed by this tentative rejection

A friend of mine (current clerk) said they interviewed in 2023 and have still not heard back either way. So there may be a significant delay (maybe waiting to conduct all the interviews and stack rank or something?) But otherwise, I’d think it’s not great form for a competitive firm to conduct a callback and not let someone know one way or another for more than a month.

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have intel on where Susman Godfrey is at in their hiring process? How long can an applicant expect to wait between an interview and offer/rejection?

Wondering the same. Assuming a rejection, but curious still

Do you know of anyone who has heard back with an offer yet?

No lol my only source of info on SG is this forum

When did you interview? Honestly so stressed by this tentative rejection

A friend of mine (current clerk) said they interviewed in 2023 and have still not heard back either way. So there may be a significant delay (maybe waiting to conduct all the interviews and stack rank or something?) But otherwise, I’d think it’s not great form for a competitive firm to conduct a callback and not let someone know one way or another for more than a month.

Yeah. It’s also been about a month for me, but 2023 is wild. Do you know which office?

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have intel on where Susman Godfrey is at in their hiring process? How long can an applicant expect to wait between an interview and offer/rejection?

Wondering the same. Assuming a rejection, but curious still

Do you know of anyone who has heard back with an offer yet?

No lol my only source of info on SG is this forum

When did you interview? Honestly so stressed by this tentative rejection

A friend of mine (current clerk) said they interviewed in 2023 and have still not heard back either way. So there may be a significant delay (maybe waiting to conduct all the interviews and stack rank or something?) But otherwise, I’d think it’s not great form for a competitive firm to conduct a callback and not let someone know one way or another for more than a month.

So nothing since November/December 2023? Damn

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have intel on where Susman Godfrey is at in their hiring process? How long can an applicant expect to wait between an interview and offer/rejection?

Wondering the same. Assuming a rejection, but curious still

Do you know of anyone who has heard back with an offer yet?

No lol my only source of info on SG is this forum

When did you interview? Honestly so stressed by this tentative rejection

A friend of mine (current clerk) said they interviewed in 2023 and have still not heard back either way. So there may be a significant delay (maybe waiting to conduct all the interviews and stack rank or something?) But otherwise, I’d think it’s not great form for a competitive firm to conduct a callback and not let someone know one way or another for more than a month.

So nothing since November/December 2023? Damn

I think I mostly just want to know if any offers have gone out, in which case I think there is are at least some candidates who are not being set aside for ranking or whatever. Are you guys Y/H/S 2/9/DC? Also I cannot believe I’m asking this or on this forum again, lol

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone have intel on where Susman Godfrey is at in their hiring process? How long can an applicant expect to wait between an interview and offer/rejection?

Wondering the same. Assuming a rejection, but curious still

Do you know of anyone who has heard back with an offer yet?

No lol my only source of info on SG is this forum

When did you interview? Honestly so stressed by this tentative rejection

A friend of mine (current clerk) said they interviewed in 2023 and have still not heard back either way. So there may be a significant delay (maybe waiting to conduct all the interviews and stack rank or something?) But otherwise, I’d think it’s not great form for a competitive firm to conduct a callback and not let someone know one way or another for more than a month.

So nothing since November/December 2023? Damn

Yeah, I know. That was my reaction too. I’m at a different smaller elite litigation shop (W&C/Kellogg/Munger) and I cannot imagine that type of delay. We are also tremendously competitive and I think correctly recognize that — especially in view of the caliber of candidate that we invite for a callback — people deserve a relatively prompt and efficient answer. SG is just a weird place, I guess.