Out of curiosity, what did your friend end up doing? I assume they just accepted another offer? Or are they holding out just for SG? It's especially strange for no update for months given that they must know the people they give callbacks to will have other offersAnonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:32 pmYeah, I know. That was my reaction too. I’m at a different smaller elite litigation shop (W&C/Kellogg/Munger) and I cannot imagine that type of delay. We are also tremendously competitive and I think correctly recognize that — especially in view of the caliber of candidate that we invite for a callback — people deserve a relatively prompt and efficient answer. SG is just a weird place, I guess.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:17 pmSo nothing since November/December 2023? DamnAnonymous User wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:55 pmA friend of mine (current clerk) said they interviewed in 2023 and have still not heard back either way. So there may be a significant delay (maybe waiting to conduct all the interviews and stack rank or something?) But otherwise, I’d think it’s not great form for a competitive firm to conduct a callback and not let someone know one way or another for more than a month.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:47 pmWhen did you interview? Honestly so stressed by this tentative rejectionAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:44 pmNo lol my only source of info on SG is this forumAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:22 pmDo you know of anyone who has heard back with an offer yet?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:28 am
Wondering the same. Assuming a rejection, but curious still
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Damn, if I have heard nothing after submitting my app, should I assume a rejection? Weird since their auto response says they will try to respond “within the next few weeks”Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:44 amPatterson has given out a couple offers and a couple dings.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:08 pmAnyone with info on Patterson belknap or debevoise NY for positions starting this fall? I applied last month and haven’t heard anything.
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Wilkinson Stekloff LLP has started screeners
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Have some of the bigger firms started moving? I’ve mostly gotten bites from smaller firms but radio silence from big firms in NY/DC so far. Is that accurate to others’ experience or am I just toast wrt any firm over 80 lawyers.
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My co-clerks and I have heard from a few big firms but nothing from most of them. One of the ones I heard from said they will be hiring next month.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:07 pmHave some of the bigger firms started moving? I’ve mostly gotten bites from smaller firms but radio silence from big firms in NY/DC so far. Is that accurate to others’ experience or am I just toast wrt any firm over 80 lawyers.
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Any bankruptcy clerks getting traction? Clerking in prominent district (SDNY/DE/SDTX) and have gotten no bites yet.
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Current bankruptcy clerk in the DMV area. I spoke with former clerks and was told that it's still early, even at some firms I reached out I was told to check back in a couple of months. I haven't heard of any movement from other clerks who have been applying since January in more prominent districts like the ones you mentionedAnonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:57 pmAny bankruptcy clerks getting traction? Clerking in prominent district (SDNY/DE/SDTX) and have gotten no bites yet.
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Do you mind sharing credentials if anyone received an offer from PB?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:08 pmAnyone with info on Patterson belknap or debevoise NY for positions starting this fall? I applied last month and haven’t heard anything.
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T20 law school, some experience at a V10 law firm, SDNY/EDNY/DNJ clerk.Vin.thusiast wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:58 pmDo you mind sharing credentials if anyone received an offer from PB?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:08 pmAnyone with info on Patterson belknap or debevoise NY for positions starting this fall? I applied last month and haven’t heard anything.
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Any updates from Quinn?
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T6, v20 experience, similar clerk district, got a rejection with no interviewAnonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:51 pmT20 law school, some experience at a V10 law firm, SDNY/EDNY/DNJ clerk.Vin.thusiast wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:58 pmDo you mind sharing credentials if anyone received an offer from PB?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:08 pmAnyone with info on Patterson belknap or debevoise NY for positions starting this fall? I applied last month and haven’t heard anything.
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Anyone hear of movement out of Susman NY? Still waiting on a decision.
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Yes.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:43 pmAnyone hear of movement out of Susman NY? Still waiting on a decision.
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Offers, rejections, or both?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:15 pmYes.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:43 pmAnyone hear of movement out of Susman NY? Still waiting on a decision.
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(This is the T20 / V10 / SDNY, EDNY, or DNJ Clerk with the PBWT offer.) Sorry to hear about that. I think Patterson is going to be a lot more limited in offers handed out this year. They clearly over-hired last year, I think they brought on a total of 30ish attorneys. It seems like the whole firm is very slow, with something like one-third of associates missing the hours required to get a bonus. Effectively meaning that a good chunk of the firm is under-market. Great lifestyle shop though, billing 1600-1700 hours and still bringing in $250K is nothing to sneeze at.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:01 pmT6, v20 experience, similar clerk district, got a rejection with no interviewAnonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:51 pmT20 law school, some experience at a V10 law firm, SDNY/EDNY/DNJ clerk.Vin.thusiast wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:58 pmDo you mind sharing credentials if anyone received an offer from PB?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:08 pmAnyone with info on Patterson belknap or debevoise NY for positions starting this fall? I applied last month and haven’t heard anything.
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Thanks for the context, I really appreciate it, and congrats on your offer. Interesting that they are so slow with litigation booming elsewhere. It seems like large firms generally are not hiring a ton of clerks. I only applied to a few places so I’m hoping for the chance to return to my old firm if nothing works out. Just wanted to explore my opportunities.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:16 pm(This is the T20 / V10 / SDNY, EDNY, or DNJ Clerk with the PBWT offer.) Sorry to hear about that. I think Patterson is going to be a lot more limited in offers handed out this year. They clearly over-hired last year, I think they brought on a total of 30ish attorneys. It seems like the whole firm is very slow, with something like one-third of associates missing the hours required to get a bonus. Effectively meaning that a good chunk of the firm is under-market. Great lifestyle shop though, billing 1600-1700 hours and still bringing in $250K is nothing to sneeze at.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:01 pmT6, v20 experience, similar clerk district, got a rejection with no interviewAnonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:51 pmT20 law school, some experience at a V10 law firm, SDNY/EDNY/DNJ clerk.Vin.thusiast wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:58 pmDo you mind sharing credentials if anyone received an offer from PB?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:08 pmAnyone with info on Patterson belknap or debevoise NY for positions starting this fall? I applied last month and haven’t heard anything.
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PBWT associate here: it's more like two-thirds of associates missing hours. But some number of associates who miss hours get full bonus anyway -- pro bono hours count towards bonus for some people and not others based on factors that aren't entirely transparent. It's very feast or famine: if you get staffed on a big J&J case you'll be worked to the bone, and if you don't, you'll bill like 1500 hours. Definitely do not count on PBWT being a lifestyle firm.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:16 pm(This is the T20 / V10 / SDNY, EDNY, or DNJ Clerk with the PBWT offer.) Sorry to hear about that. I think Patterson is going to be a lot more limited in offers handed out this year. They clearly over-hired last year, I think they brought on a total of 30ish attorneys. It seems like the whole firm is very slow, with something like one-third of associates missing the hours required to get a bonus. Effectively meaning that a good chunk of the firm is under-market. Great lifestyle shop though, billing 1600-1700 hours and still bringing in $250K is nothing to sneeze at.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:01 pmT6, v20 experience, similar clerk district, got a rejection with no interviewAnonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:51 pmT20 law school, some experience at a V10 law firm, SDNY/EDNY/DNJ clerk.Vin.thusiast wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:58 pmDo you mind sharing credentials if anyone received an offer from PB?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:08 pmAnyone with info on Patterson belknap or debevoise NY for positions starting this fall? I applied last month and haven’t heard anything.
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Dinged by Wilkinson
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Does anyone have info on when you need to tell your previous firm that you’re coming back? I can’t find where my firm told me the timeline before I left—it was either 6 or 3 months. I am interested in one last firm who is holding their reception relatively late so I don’t foresee their hiring process wrapping up before the end of March.
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Anyone heard from Morgan Lewis Chicago or NYC?
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Ask them. It will vary from firm to firm.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:40 pmDoes anyone have info on when you need to tell your previous firm that you’re coming back? I can’t find where my firm told me the timeline before I left—it was either 6 or 3 months. I am interested in one last firm who is holding their reception relatively late so I don’t foresee their hiring process wrapping up before the end of March.
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Even if I am not committing at this time?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:31 pmAsk them. It will vary from firm to firm.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:40 pmDoes anyone have info on when you need to tell your previous firm that you’re coming back? I can’t find where my firm told me the timeline before I left—it was either 6 or 3 months. I am interested in one last firm who is holding their reception relatively late so I don’t foresee their hiring process wrapping up before the end of March.
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Any info on Jenner?
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