0L Disclaimer: Anyone enjoy their summer prep?

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0L Disclaimer: Anyone enjoy their summer prep?

Postby JCougar » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:29 pm

Alright, I'm a dork...please don't hate.

I've halfway done with GTM and Delaney's, and I've speed read Law School Confidential and PLS in the library. Anyways, I'm really enjoying Delaney's Learning Legal Reasoning, and GTM makes law exams seem pretty exciting actually. I'm reading through the opinions on there and picking out the key issues seems to come naturally for me. I really think I will enjoy reading cases and putting them together to understand the law. I can also see how initially, briefing a few cases would be helpful, but down the road, it could be a waste of time. Yes, I know I am a loser. :wink:

My question is, are these cases representative of the ones you read once you get going in class? Or are these easy cases Delaney picked out just for beginners? All the horror stories about how hard law school is suddenly have less weight right now, but I don't want to get my hopes up. I've even read the first three chapters of Glannon's Civ Pro E&E, and it seems like fairly easy stuff to grasp.

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Postby prezidentv8 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:31 pm

JCougar wrote:Alright, I'm a dork...please don't hate.

I've halfway done with GTM and Delaney's, and I've speed read Law School Confidential and PLS in the library. Anyways, I'm really enjoying Delaney's Learning Legal Reasoning, and GTM makes law exams seem pretty exciting actually. I'm reading through the opinions on there and picking out the key issues seems to come naturally for me. I really think I will enjoy reading cases and putting them together to understand the law. I can also see how initially, briefing a few cases would be helpful, but down the road, it could be a waste of time. Yes, I know I am a loser. :wink:

My question is, are these cases representative of the ones you read once you get going in class? Or are these easy cases Delaney picked out just for beginners? All the horror stories about how hard law school is suddenly have less weight right now, but I don't want to get my hopes up. I've even read the first three chapters of Glannon's Civ Pro E&E, and it seems like fairly easy stuff to grasp.


Just to toss this out there at you, in my opinion law school is not difficult in terms of understanding things, but the volume of material, teaching style, and curved grading creates some stress.

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Postby 270910 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:31 pm

JCougar wrote:Alright, I'm a dork...please don't hate.

I've halfway done with GTM and Delaney's, and I've speed read Law School Confidential and PLS in the library. Anyways, I'm really enjoying Delaney's Learning Legal Reasoning, and GTM makes law exams seem pretty exciting actually. I'm reading through the opinions on there and picking out the key issues seems to come naturally for me. I really think I will enjoy reading cases and putting them together to understand the law. I can also see how initially, briefing a few cases would be helpful, but down the road, it could be a waste of time. Yes, I know I am a loser. :wink:

My question is, are these cases representative of the ones you read once you get going in class? Or are these easy cases Delaney picked out just for beginners? All the horror stories about how hard law school is suddenly have less weight right now, but I don't want to get my hopes up. I've even read the first three chapters of Glannon's Civ Pro E&E, and it seems like fairly easy stuff to grasp.


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Postby prezidentv8 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:32 pm

I hope that's not me.

Cause now I feel lame.

Dangit.

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Postby MrKappus » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:33 pm

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I'm at once thrilled by the existence of this award and thrilled that I've never received it.

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Postby jayn3 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:41 pm

stop being so damn good at tls disco

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Postby A'nold » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:41 pm

I hate when 0L's are all, "Lulzage, I'm such a dork, I find this law school stuff FASCINATING. Geez, I must be so dorky cuz I actually like this stuff."

1. This is not what law school is like
2. This is not what being a lawyer is like
3. I love law school and do think it's fascinating, but the reason you feel like you love this stuff now is because you are all pumped up about law school. Wait until like 2 weeks into 2nd semester and revisit this post.

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Postby Veritaffle » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:46 pm

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Postby solidsnake » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:50 pm

A'nold wrote:I hate when 0L's are all, "Lulzage, I'm such a dork, I find this law school stuff FASCINATING. Geez, I must be so dorky cuz I actually like this stuff."

1. This is not what law school is like
2. This is not what being a lawyer is like
3. I love law school and do think it's fascinating, but the reason you feel like you love this stuff now is because you are all pumped up about law school. Wait until like 2 weeks into 2nd semester and revisit this post.


lol..so true. 0Ls, with their skulls full of mush, think that their fascination is caused by the material (which they can't even comprehend); when it's more likely caused by the adrenaline rush stoked by the thought of stepping into a new phase of their lives that will begin in just two short months.

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Postby RW65 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:51 pm

JCougar wrote:Alright, I'm a dork...please don't hate.

I've halfway done with GTM and Delaney's, and I've speed read Law School Confidential and PLS in the library. Anyways, I'm really enjoying Delaney's Learning Legal Reasoning, and GTM makes law exams seem pretty exciting actually. I'm reading through the opinions on there and picking out the key issues seems to come naturally for me. I really think I will enjoy reading cases and putting them together to understand the law. I can also see how initially, briefing a few cases would be helpful, but down the road, it could be a waste of time. Yes, I know I am a loser. :wink:

My question is, are these cases representative of the ones you read once you get going in class? Or are these easy cases Delaney picked out just for beginners? All the horror stories about how hard law school is suddenly have less weight right now, but I don't want to get my hopes up. I've even read the first three chapters of Glannon's Civ Pro E&E, and it seems like fairly easy stuff to grasp.


You should save this post and read it in November when your final memo is due, you're outlining, and you still have to read/prep for class.

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Postby najumobi » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:53 pm

JCougar wrote:Alright, I'm a dork...please don't hate.

I've halfway done with GTM and Delaney's, and I've speed read Law School Confidential and PLS in the library. Anyways, I'm really enjoying Delaney's Learning Legal Reasoning, and GTM makes law exams seem pretty exciting actually. I'm reading through the opinions on there and picking out the key issues seems to come naturally for me. I really think I will enjoy reading cases and putting them together to understand the law. I can also see how initially, briefing a few cases would be helpful, but down the road, it could be a waste of time. Yes, I know I am a loser. :wink:

My question is, are these cases representative of the ones you read once you get going in class? Or are these easy cases Delaney picked out just for beginners? All the horror stories about how hard law school is suddenly have less weight right now, but I don't want to get my hopes up. I've even read the first three chapters of Glannon's Civ Pro E&E, and it seems like fairly easy stuff to grasp.
ha, it's pretty cool to see a future classmate as excited as you are. is this all you're doing this summer or are you balancing time doing summer prep with job?

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Postby JCougar » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:56 pm

A'nold wrote:I hate when 0L's are all, "Lulzage, I'm such a dork, I find this law school stuff FASCINATING. Geez, I must be so dorky cuz I actually like this stuff."

1. This is not what law school is like
2. This is not what being a lawyer is like
3. I love law school and do think it's fascinating, but the reason you feel like you love this stuff now is because you are all pumped up about law school. Wait until like 2 weeks into 2nd semester and revisit this post.


With the way people talk about law school on here, you'd think it would be as bad as walking over hot coals. I'm sure it gets harder when you have to juggle 3 classes at a time plus LRW. I just expected the material to be mind-numbingly boring, and I'm at least pleasantly surprised for now.

Maybe I will take a lulz at this in three months though.

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Postby JCougar » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:57 pm

najumobi wrote:
JCougar wrote:Alright, I'm a dork...please don't hate.

I've halfway done with GTM and Delaney's, and I've speed read Law School Confidential and PLS in the library. Anyways, I'm really enjoying Delaney's Learning Legal Reasoning, and GTM makes law exams seem pretty exciting actually. I'm reading through the opinions on there and picking out the key issues seems to come naturally for me. I really think I will enjoy reading cases and putting them together to understand the law. I can also see how initially, briefing a few cases would be helpful, but down the road, it could be a waste of time. Yes, I know I am a loser. :wink:

My question is, are these cases representative of the ones you read once you get going in class? Or are these easy cases Delaney picked out just for beginners? All the horror stories about how hard law school is suddenly have less weight right now, but I don't want to get my hopes up. I've even read the first three chapters of Glannon's Civ Pro E&E, and it seems like fairly easy stuff to grasp.
ha, it's pretty cool to see a future classmate as excited as you are. is this all you're doing this summer or are you balancing time doing summer prep with job?


I already quit my job...heading out to Texas and California in two weeks for a road trip that should last me until August. I gotta have some fun before the stress starts to build up.

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Postby JCougar » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:03 am

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What...can't I at least delude myself a little bit to make the summer go faster? :)

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Postby SwollenMonkey » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:03 am

JCougar wrote:Alright, I'm a dork...please don't hate.

I've halfway done with GTM and Delaney's, and I've speed read Law School Confidential and PLS in the library. Anyways, I'm really enjoying Delaney's Learning Legal Reasoning, and GTM makes law exams seem pretty exciting actually. I'm reading through the opinions on there and picking out the key issues seems to come naturally for me. I really think I will enjoy reading cases and putting them together to understand the law. I can also see how initially, briefing a few cases would be helpful, but down the road, it could be a waste of time. Yes, I know I am a loser. :wink:

My question is, are these cases representative of the ones you read once you get going in class? Or are these easy cases Delaney picked out just for beginners? All the horror stories about how hard law school is suddenly have less weight right now, but I don't want to get my hopes up. I've even read the first three chapters of Glannon's Civ Pro E&E, and it seems like fairly easy stuff to grasp.


I found GTM more informative after reading a few EEs. I've read the EE on Civ Pro, Property, Crim Law, Torts, and Contracts.

Also, I'm fascinated by the fact that I now know that going to the barbershop for a haircut can be viewed as a contract.

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Postby bigben » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:16 am

SwollenMonkey wrote:Also, I'm fascinated by the fact that I now know that going to the barbershop for a haircut can be viewed as a contract.


I think we all are. It's just so...fascinating that you know that.

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Postby SwollenMonkey » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:18 am

bigben wrote:
SwollenMonkey wrote:Also, I'm fascinated by the fact that I now know that going to the barbershop for a haircut can be viewed as a contract.


I think we all are. It's just so...fascinating that you know that.



Tell me about it! I went from a mental state of not knowing to knowing. So awesome!

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Postby bigben » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:19 am

JCougar wrote:Alright, I'm a dork...please don't hate.

I've halfway done with GTM and Delaney's, and I've speed read Law School Confidential and PLS in the library. Anyways, I'm really enjoying Delaney's Learning Legal Reasoning, and GTM makes law exams seem pretty exciting actually. I'm reading through the opinions on there and picking out the key issues seems to come naturally for me. I really think I will enjoy reading cases and putting them together to understand the law. I can also see how initially, briefing a few cases would be helpful, but down the road, it could be a waste of time. Yes, I know I am a loser. :wink:

My question is, are these cases representative of the ones you read once you get going in class? Or are these easy cases Delaney picked out just for beginners? All the horror stories about how hard law school is suddenly have less weight right now, but I don't want to get my hopes up. I've even read the first three chapters of Glannon's Civ Pro E&E, and it seems like fairly easy stuff to grasp.


*uses this post as toilet paper*

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Postby SwollenMonkey » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:29 am

Maybe you should view 0L prep as popping your cherry slowly, so that when law school fucks you, it won't hurt as bad.

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Postby enygma » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:31 am

SwollenMonkey wrote:
JCougar wrote:Alright, I'm a dork...please don't hate.

I've halfway done with GTM and Delaney's, and I've speed read Law School Confidential and PLS in the library. Anyways, I'm really enjoying Delaney's Learning Legal Reasoning, and GTM makes law exams seem pretty exciting actually. I'm reading through the opinions on there and picking out the key issues seems to come naturally for me. I really think I will enjoy reading cases and putting them together to understand the law. I can also see how initially, briefing a few cases would be helpful, but down the road, it could be a waste of time. Yes, I know I am a loser. :wink:

My question is, are these cases representative of the ones you read once you get going in class? Or are these easy cases Delaney picked out just for beginners? All the horror stories about how hard law school is suddenly have less weight right now, but I don't want to get my hopes up. I've even read the first three chapters of Glannon's Civ Pro E&E, and it seems like fairly easy stuff to grasp.


I found GTM more informative after reading a few EEs. I've read the EE on Civ Pro, Property, Crim Law, Torts, and Contracts.

Also, I'm fascinated by the fact that I now know that going to the barbershop for a haircut can be viewed as a contract.


you're doing it wrong

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Postby JCougar » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:32 am

Looks like I poked too hard at the hornets' nest this evening. :roll:

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Postby PSLaplace » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:35 am

0Ls: You think you understand GTM. You think you understand the Civil Procedure E&E. Newsflash: You don't. Don't believe me?
Try taking a real exam: http://www.wcl.american.edu/exams/exam_ ... ourse_id=8

Go ahead. Utilize your profound knowledge of Civil Procedure acquired from your diligent reading of the E&E. And apply those insightful techniques given to you by GTM and Delaney to tackle those problems!

...Or realize you don't know jack. And next, realize that particular exam covers only half the material taught in most Civil Procedure classes.

Now please, stop telling us how much you enjoy "learning" the law.

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Postby JCougar » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:50 am

PSLaplace wrote:0Ls: You think you understand GTM. You think you understand the Civil Procedure E&E.

Now please, stop telling us how much you enjoy "learning" the law.


No one's saying that. My point was simply that so far, I was enjoying things, and reading cases so far is a lot more rewarding than I had envisioned. It's a lot better and easier than reading scores of academic journal articles on multivariate statistics and/or psychometrics, which made me want to pull my hair out. Not that that wasn't interesting, but it seems like legal writing is a lot more succinct and to the point in comparison to academic journals.

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Postby yinz » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:54 am

PSLaplace wrote:Try taking a real exam: http://www.wcl.american.edu/exams/exam_ ... ourse_id=8

Go ahead. Utilize your profound knowledge of Civil Procedure acquired from your diligent reading of the E&E. And apply those insightful techniques given to you by GTM and Delaney to tackle those problems!


T,F,F,F,T,F,T,T,F,T,

Done!

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Postby PSLaplace » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:54 am

JCougar wrote:...it seems like legal writing is a lot more succinct and to the point in comparison to academic journals.


I lol'd.

Here, another gem from Civil Procedure that you're guaranteed to come across (Pennoyer v. Neff): http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case? ... i=scholarr

"Succinct" is hardly the word I'd choose.




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