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- BarbellDreams
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Glannon's
0L stupid question here, is there any difference between the editions of Glannon's books (or any other hornbook and E&E's for that matter)? The 2006 edition is about a quarter of the price of the 2008 edition, is it worth buying the newer one or are they not much different?
- Jarndyce
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Re: Glannon's
The law has changed enough in certain areas (see pleading, post-Twombley/Iqbal) that it would be worth buying the new addition. This coming from someone who earned an A in CivPro studying the current edition of Glannon almost exclusively.
- General Tso
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you should get the newest CivPro E&E, but the common law classes like Torts, Crim, Property, you'd probably be fine with older editions. the E&E for property is terrible though.
for my purposes, the full length Emanual's outlines have been too in-depth. I think Crunchtimes cover each subject in sufficient detail. My exams have been broad in focus rather than narrow.
for my purposes, the full length Emanual's outlines have been too in-depth. I think Crunchtimes cover each subject in sufficient detail. My exams have been broad in focus rather than narrow.
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I want to point out that some people (including myself) also prefer the Understanding Criminal book to the E&E. Generally, E&E= best, but in certain classes (so far, I have noticed Criminal and Property especially), the E&E is not so great.General Tso wrote:you should get the newest CivPro E&E, but the common law classes like Torts, Crim, Property, you'd probably be fine with older editions. the E&E for property is terrible though.
for my purposes, the full length Emanual's outlines have been too in-depth. I think Crunchtimes cover each subject in sufficient detail. My exams have been broad in focus rather than narrow.
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yeah a lot of people at my school used Understanding for crim and for tortsJarndyce wrote:I want to point out that some people (including myself) also prefer the Understanding Criminal book to the E&E. Generally, E&E= best, but in certain classes (so far, I have noticed Criminal and Property especially), the E&E is not so great.General Tso wrote:you should get the newest CivPro E&E, but the common law classes like Torts, Crim, Property, you'd probably be fine with older editions. the E&E for property is terrible though.
for my purposes, the full length Emanual's outlines have been too in-depth. I think Crunchtimes cover each subject in sufficient detail. My exams have been broad in focus rather than narrow.
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Re: Glannon's
are you guys referring to the LexisNexis series by dressler??General Tso wrote:yeah a lot of people at my school used Understanding for crim and for tortsJarndyce wrote:I want to point out that some people (including myself) also prefer the Understanding Criminal book to the E&E. Generally, E&E= best, but in certain classes (so far, I have noticed Criminal and Property especially), the E&E is not so great.General Tso wrote:you should get the newest CivPro E&E, but the common law classes like Torts, Crim, Property, you'd probably be fine with older editions. the E&E for property is terrible though.
for my purposes, the full length Emanual's outlines have been too in-depth. I think Crunchtimes cover each subject in sufficient detail. My exams have been broad in focus rather than narrow.
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i was wondering this as wellstad2234 wrote:are you guys referring to the LexisNexis series by dressler??General Tso wrote:yeah a lot of people at my school used Understanding for crim and for tortsJarndyce wrote:I want to point out that some people (including myself) also prefer the Understanding Criminal book to the E&E. Generally, E&E= best, but in certain classes (so far, I have noticed Criminal and Property especially), the E&E is not so great.General Tso wrote:you should get the newest CivPro E&E, but the common law classes like Torts, Crim, Property, you'd probably be fine with older editions. the E&E for property is terrible though.
for my purposes, the full length Emanual's outlines have been too in-depth. I think Crunchtimes cover each subject in sufficient detail. My exams have been broad in focus rather than narrow.
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for my purposes, the full length Emanual's outlines have been too in-depth. I think Crunchtimes cover each subject in sufficient detail. My exams have been broad in focus rather than narrow.[/quote]
I want to point out that some people (including myself) also prefer the Understanding Criminal book to the E&E. Generally, E&E= best, but in certain classes (so far, I have noticed Criminal and Property especially), the E&E is not so great.[/quote]
yeah a lot of people at my school used Understanding for crim and for torts[/quote]
are you guys referring to the LexisNexis series by dressler??[/quote]
i was wondering this as well[/quote]
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I want to point out that some people (including myself) also prefer the Understanding Criminal book to the E&E. Generally, E&E= best, but in certain classes (so far, I have noticed Criminal and Property especially), the E&E is not so great.[/quote]
yeah a lot of people at my school used Understanding for crim and for torts[/quote]
are you guys referring to the LexisNexis series by dressler??[/quote]
i was wondering this as well[/quote]
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Re: Glannon's
dressler wrote Understanding Crim...I didnt use this one but I've heard a lot of good things
Understanding Torts is by Diamond. It's popular at my school but that might just be because Diamond teaches there.
Understanding Torts is by Diamond. It's popular at my school but that might just be because Diamond teaches there.
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Then again, M311 used it heavily. Anecdotal evidence FTW!General Tso wrote:dressler wrote Understanding Crim...I didnt use this one but I've heard a lot of good things
Understanding Torts is by Diamond. It's popular at my school but that might just be because Diamond teaches there.
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so are all of the LexisNexis "Understanding" series pretty solid or is it kind of hit and miss with first year courses
- jp0094
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hit or miss. Depends on the author and whether there are recent editions. Dressler for crim is +infinity. That book, not my professor, taught me crim law.stad2234 wrote:so are all of the LexisNexis "Understanding" series pretty solid or is it kind of hit and miss with first year courses
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Re: Glannon's
Credited. Dressler's Understanding book snagged me the CALI Award. Also, for those of you too poor (like myself) to afford all of the LexisNexis Understanding books, this site may be helpful: --LinkRemoved--.jp0094 wrote:hit or miss. Depends on the author and whether there are recent editions. Dressler for crim is +infinity. That book, not my professor, taught me crim law.stad2234 wrote:so are all of the LexisNexis "Understanding" series pretty solid or is it kind of hit and miss with first year courses
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- Paichka
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Re: Glannon's
I LOVE the Understanding Series.
Crim was clutch, as you've already heard. Civ Pro was awesome (but then, my professor was a co-author, so...) and my A in Torts is due entirely to Diamond. My property grade isn't out yet, but I thought the Understanding Property book was really good as well.
Crim was clutch, as you've already heard. Civ Pro was awesome (but then, my professor was a co-author, so...) and my A in Torts is due entirely to Diamond. My property grade isn't out yet, but I thought the Understanding Property book was really good as well.
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Civ Pro E&E = the best supplement out of all 1L supplements.
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Glannon's Tort E&E also is incredibly great.A'nold wrote:Civ Pro E&E = the best supplement out of all 1L supplements.
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Yes. I thought property was actually pretty good, but the E&E for crim law was terrible.A'nold wrote:Civ Pro E&E = the best supplement out of all 1L supplements.
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- vanwinkle
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Re: Glannon's
I actually liked the Glannon Guide for Civ Pro more than the E&E.
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Re: Glannon's
Eh, I used the old version of the Glannon Guide for Civ Pro and did very will in Civ Pro. I used this to supplement with more detail and more recent stuff since it was published in 2009. http://product.half.ebay.com/_W0QQprZ73 ... 1397828811
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Re: Glannon's
For the Dressler "Understanding" book, is the most recent edition (2009) necessary or is one edition back ok? I can get the new one for ~$25 or the old one for ~$8.Jarndyce wrote:Credited. Dressler's Understanding book snagged me the CALI Award. Also, for those of you too poor (like myself) to afford all of the LexisNexis Understanding books, this site may be helpful: --LinkRemoved--.jp0094 wrote:hit or miss. Depends on the author and whether there are recent editions. Dressler for crim is +infinity. That book, not my professor, taught me crim law.stad2234 wrote:so are all of the LexisNexis "Understanding" series pretty solid or is it kind of hit and miss with first year courses
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- chicagolaw2013
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Re: Glannon's
Tagging for next term...already bought my supps for this term, but that Understanding Crim book sounds like something I want to remember come this spring.
- Duralex
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Re: Glannon's
Keep in mind when obsessing about this stuff that even school bookstores often don't keep up.
The LLS (Loyola LA) store has a pile of new copies of the 2006 edition of Freer's Intro to Civ Pro (the one with the black cover)--if you didn't already know the newer edition existed you'd probably assume the 2006 ed is current.
I thought that was kinda lousy, but I figure it's B&N doing this not LLS itself.
2006:

2009:

Given the change in publishers (a shift to an imprint, it would appear?) covers and the wording of the title, some might assume these are slightly different books but this is in fact the same one with about 30 or 40 added pages.
The LLS (Loyola LA) store has a pile of new copies of the 2006 edition of Freer's Intro to Civ Pro (the one with the black cover)--if you didn't already know the newer edition existed you'd probably assume the 2006 ed is current.
I thought that was kinda lousy, but I figure it's B&N doing this not LLS itself.
2006:

2009:

Given the change in publishers (a shift to an imprint, it would appear?) covers and the wording of the title, some might assume these are slightly different books but this is in fact the same one with about 30 or 40 added pages.
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Re: Glannon's
just used the crim e&e because I can not for the life of me understand statute interpretation---which elements the mens rea applies to, etc..and I have to say, the crim e&e is quite horrible. It helped me get like 2 points and the rest was a massive waste...the examples are totally useless because in the explanation, they just add in 10 new facts that would make the answer different, when they should just be addressing the initial hypo.
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