Best Property Supplement?

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Best Property Supplement?

Postby Garinold » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:43 pm

What is the best property supplement and why? I have been assigned the Dukeminier, Krier, Alexander & Schill, Property (6th ed. 2006) as my casebook.

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby General Tso » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:47 pm

I have the same textbook. Which school are you at?

I bought the emanuel's that is keyed to this book. Emanuels are nice because they have multiple choice questions unlike E&E. I also got the high court case summaries. And I will probably use E&E as well.

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby leron » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:48 pm

i hear the e&e is good for prop. i have the same casebook and that's what i'm going with.

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby stayingclassy » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:52 pm

I had the same textbook last semester and used E&E occasionally during the semester. I found E&E somewhat helpful but not nearly as much as for Civ Pro or Torts. Not an awful choice, but I'd at least consider other options.

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby Danteshek » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:53 pm

Understanding Property is the best, imo

Edit: I used this supplement this past semester and did quite well.
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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby kimber1028 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:55 pm

I'm curious about this as well, but I have the Singer casebook. Has anyone checked out Intro to Property?

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby Snooker » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:53 pm

Understanding property law is very good and it ties in very well with the casebooks.

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby kimber1028 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:59 pm

Yay for Lexis points. I just ordered Understanding Property from the rewards site.

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby HAMBONE » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:36 pm

Snooker wrote:Understanding property law is very good and it ties in very well with the casebooks.


This + I used the Emanuels occasionally (don't know how helpful it really was until grades are back obviously)

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby stab master arson » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:40 pm

I highly recommend the Law in a Flash cards for when you get into future interests and concurrent estates. The only way to learn that shit is to practice, practice, practice. The down side is that these subjects are covered in two sets of cards, Future Interests and Real Property. See if your library has a set to lend out.

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby Danteshek » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:48 pm

stab master arson wrote:I highly recommend the Law in a Flash cards for when you get into future interests and concurrent estates. The only way to learn that shit is to practice, practice, practice. The down side is that these subjects are covered in two sets of cards, Future Interests and Real Property. See if your library has a set to lend out.


Conventional wisdom says it's better to make your own flash cards.

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby stab master arson » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:10 am

Danteshek wrote:
stab master arson wrote:I highly recommend the Law in a Flash cards for when you get into future interests and concurrent estates. The only way to learn that shit is to practice, practice, practice. The down side is that these subjects are covered in two sets of cards, Future Interests and Real Property. See if your library has a set to lend out.


Conventional wisdom says it's better to make your own flash cards.
Wow, that is so true, guy. Hey, did you know that conventional wisdom also says it's better to research, write and publish your own supplements, hornbooks, E&Es, etc.? Because there's no better teacher of a subject you know nothing about than ... you!

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby lbg0125 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:42 am

since you have the Krier textbook, Gilbert's is the best because it was written by Krier

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby ChattelCat » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:47 am

swheat wrote:I have the same textbook. Which school are you at?

I bought the emanuel's that is keyed to this book. Emanuels are nice because they have multiple choice questions unlike E&E. I also got the high court case summaries. And I will probably use E&E as well.


Get the Gilberts - it's written by Krier so is better than anything that is just 'keyed' to the text. It's absolutely fantastic for the Dukeminier text (and I am not a fan at all of commercial outlines - but this one was exceptional). I actually thought the property E&E wasn't nearly specific enough - but that probably had more to do with my prof.

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby Danteshek » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:30 am

stab master arson wrote:
Danteshek wrote:
stab master arson wrote:I highly recommend the Law in a Flash cards for when you get into future interests and concurrent estates. The only way to learn that shit is to practice, practice, practice. The down side is that these subjects are covered in two sets of cards, Future Interests and Real Property. See if your library has a set to lend out.


Conventional wisdom says it's better to make your own flash cards.
Wow, that is so true, guy. Hey, did you know that conventional wisdom also says it's better to research, write and publish your own supplements, hornbooks, E&Es, etc.? Because there's no better teacher of a subject you know nothing about than ... you!



Never said that using supplements is a bad thing. But if you want to keep being lazy, be my guest!

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby Bankhead » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:17 am

Is there any supplement keyed to the Singer text?

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby DanielCA » Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:15 am

Bankhead wrote:Is there any supplement keyed to the Singer text?

Gilbert's is and Emanuel's should be, though Gilbert's will likely be less useful for Singer's casebook as opposed to the one by Krier (and Dukeminier).

Also, there is this Property hornbook written by Singer, but I doubt it's very helpful. I got a similar hornbook for Torts that was by Epstein (like my Torts casebook) and it was basically a rehash of all the things in the casebook in a more coherent form. Not sure if there's a lot of value in that, personally.
http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Prop ... 522&sr=8-2

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby Danteshek » Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:30 am

Y'all placing way too much emphasis on whether the supplement is "keyed" to a certain casebook. The concepts are the same. Get the supplement that explains the concepts the best (Understanding Property Law).

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby smalltown » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:25 am

Our section used Estates in Land and Future Interests: A Step-by-Step Guide by Linda Edwards. It was not helpful at all for me, but I know when other sections saw our text they were envious because it did make it clear for them. Edwards employs a chart that takes you through that pain-in-the-ass material. If you're having trouble with it, that might be a good option.

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby jedgarhooter » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:43 am

ChattelCat wrote:
swheat wrote:I have the same textbook. Which school are you at?

I bought the emanuel's that is keyed to this book. Emanuels are nice because they have multiple choice questions unlike E&E. I also got the high court case summaries. And I will probably use E&E as well.


Get the Gilberts - it's written by Krier so is better than anything that is just 'keyed' to the text. It's absolutely fantastic for the Dukeminier text (and I am not a fan at all of commercial outlines - but this one was exceptional). I actually thought the property E&E wasn't nearly specific enough - but that probably had more to do with my prof.


I agree with this post 100%, also having used that textbook. The E&E was informative (and great for future interests/concurrent interests/possessory estates) but had lots of stuff my professor didn't care about, like variations by jursidiction (although my professor was a bit off the beaten path, so it probably would be more helpful to others than it was for my class). I didn't know about the Emanuels keyed to the textbook until exam time, unfortunately.

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby orangeswarm » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:59 am

Danteshek wrote:
stab master arson wrote:
Danteshek wrote:
stab master arson wrote:I highly recommend the Law in a Flash cards for when you get into future interests and concurrent estates. The only way to learn that shit is to practice, practice, practice. The down side is that these subjects are covered in two sets of cards, Future Interests and Real Property. See if your library has a set to lend out.


Conventional wisdom says it's better to make your own flash cards.
Wow, that is so true, guy. Hey, did you know that conventional wisdom also says it's better to research, write and publish your own supplements, hornbooks, E&Es, etc.? Because there's no better teacher of a subject you know nothing about than ... you!



Never said that using supplements is a bad thing. But if you want to keep being lazy, be my guest!


Being lazy has served me extremely well during my 3 years of law school. Not everyone has to spend every waking hour studing to do well. Don't knock it til you try it. :D


In addition to the above suggestions, I would recommend getting on cali and doing the quizzes on there. Although they typically aren't very helpful, the property lessons were solid.

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby kimber1028 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:11 pm

DanielCA wrote:
Bankhead wrote:Is there any supplement keyed to the Singer text?

Gilbert's is and Emanuel's should be, though Gilbert's will likely be less useful for Singer's casebook as opposed to the one by Krier (and Dukeminier).

Also, there is this Property hornbook written by Singer, but I doubt it's very helpful. I got a similar hornbook for Torts that was by Epstein (like my Torts casebook) and it was basically a rehash of all the things in the casebook in a more coherent form. Not sure if there's a lot of value in that, personally.
http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Prop ... 522&sr=8-2


I have the Singer casebook as well, so I checked out Intro to Property. One review on Amazon says that the book doesn't offer anything above and beyond the Singer casebook, so it isn't very valuable. There aren't a lot of reviews, so I don't know how accurate it is, but it made me second-guess spending the $40. I just got Understanding Property instead.

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby Applesaucer » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:36 pm

I know I'll probably get flamed for being a cheap-skate, but I want to buy understanding property and I can either buy:
2000 version for $2.00
2007 version for $42.00

I'd really like to buy the 2000 version, as I don't know exactly how useful it is and I already bought the gilbert's for my dukeminer text. So my question really is for the people who have taken the class: how much of the material that you learned is recent enough that I would be foolish to buy the 2000 version? Thanks guys!

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby Ignatius J. Reilly » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:43 pm

If you know that the final is going to be multiple choice, get the Q&A. If you want a used one, PM me and I will send it to you for a small fee plus cost of shipping.

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Re: Best Property Supplement?

Postby XxSpyKEx » Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:47 am

Gilberts commercial outline is hands down the 2nd best supplement I used in law school so far (2nd to the E&E for civ pro). I literally did nothing but go through and look up rules based on the case that we were covering and made my own outline covering gilberts alone (I didn't even bother with the cases) and ended up with an A. However, the prof was a visiting prof and really, really blew and tried his hardest to hide the ball and not tell us the rule that came out of a case (I'm serious about this too, when he would call on someone and they either spit out the rule or got close to it, the prof would start asking questions to draw the person in the other way as if that rule they came up with was wrong and then after the person was fully confused the prof would move onto the next case). So it might be a little different in terms of a good supp for that class if you have a decent prof.




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