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Nebby
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Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby Nebby » Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:03 pm

I was in the On-Topics and just noticed that the new 2014 ABA 509 forms include awesome new data for future transfer students. Are you interested in knowing what GPAs and schools transfer into your target school? Look no further, that is now included in the ABA required disclosures. Below are the T14s that have already posted their newest forms.

YLS
http://www.law.yale.edu/documents/pdf/About/ABA509report_Yale.pdf

HLS
http://hls.harvard.edu/content/uploads/2014/06/Std509InfoReport2014.pdf

SLS
https://www.law.stanford.edu/sites/default/files/landing-page/5035/doc/slspublic/Std509InfoReport-final-2014-12.pdf

CLS
http://web.law.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/microsites/admissions/jd/files/2014/std509inforeport-101-101-12-10-2014_13-33-20.pdf

ChLS
http://www.law.uchicago.edu/files/file/std509inforeport_2014.pdf

NYU
http://www.law.nyu.edu/sites/default/files/NYULaw-ABA-509-Standard-Information-Report.pdf

UPenn
https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/files/4062-aba-standard-509-info-report--2014pdf

UVA
(only accepted 4 students, therefore not required to provide information)

Boalt
http://www.law.berkeley.edu/files/Std509InfoReport_2014.pdf

Mich
http://www.law.umich.edu/aboutus/Documents/Std509InfoReport-76-76-12-12-2014%2015-31-56.pdf

Duke
(Not available online yet, but can be found by searching here: http://www.abarequireddisclosures.org/)

NW
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/admissions/facts/documents/ABA-Standard-509-Information-Report.pdf

Cornell
(only accepted 5 students, therefore not required to provide information--no one should xfer here anyway)

GULC (in true form, they matriculated 113 students)
http://www.law.georgetown.edu/admissions-financial-aid/aba509/upload/2014-Standard-509-Information-Report.pdf

Thus concludes my substantive contribution to 2014.
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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby bl1nds1ght » Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:04 pm

Bookmarked. Thank you!!!

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby pancakes3 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:10 pm

Huh, didn't know that if <5, you didn't have to provide transfer data.

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby Nebby » Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:14 pm

pancakes3 wrote:Huh, didn't know that if <5, you didn't have to provide transfer data.

Yep. On the appendix it says: (for schools matriculating more than 5 transfer students)

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby toothbrush » Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:15 pm

Lol, 8 people from Cornell transferred to NYU.

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby sesto elemento » Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:25 pm

So does everyone above median at HasTTTings transfer out?

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby BVest » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:43 pm

Interesting for the list of 1L schools, but the 1L gpa is pretty useless unless you go through and figure out the weighted medians and top x percentages from the origin schools.

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby Mullens » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:56 pm

By my count, 17 people transferred out of Cornell to other T14s. That seems really high given their relatively small class size.

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby ManoftheHour » Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:13 pm

Tag...just in case.

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby NYCFAN1 » Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:51 pm

Mullens wrote:By my count, 17 people transferred out of Cornell to other T14s. That seems really high given their relatively small class size.


Ithaca...

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby DCNTUA » Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:53 pm

I wonder how they account for schools that don't calculate or publish GPAs.

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby Nebby » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:49 pm

DCNTUA wrote:I wonder how they account for schools that don't calculate or publish GPAs.

What? These are the GPAs of 1Ls. If there are schools that don't give grades, then they're too TTT to transfer into the T12.

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby sesto elemento » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:53 pm

CounselorNebby wrote:
DCNTUA wrote:I wonder how they account for schools that don't calculate or publish GPAs.

What? These are the GPAs of 1Ls. If there are schools that don't give grades, then they're too TTT to transfer into the T12.


My guess is he's asking about 1Ls from Boalt and UChi who transfer to HYS.

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby DCNTUA » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:56 pm

sesto elemento wrote:
CounselorNebby wrote:
DCNTUA wrote:I wonder how they account for schools that don't calculate or publish GPAs.

What? These are the GPAs of 1Ls. If there are schools that don't give grades, then they're too TTT to transfer into the T12.


My guess is he's asking about 1Ls from Boalt and UChi who transfer to HYS.


Yes. And schools that don't calculate or publish GPAs, like Penn. You get grades but no GPA.

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby Hutz_and_Goodman » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:58 pm

Columbia reports that three people transferred from CLS->CLS.

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby DCNTUA » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:59 pm

Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:Columbia reports that three people transferred from CLS->CLS.


Michigan also shows one Mich -> Mich.

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby DoveBodyWash » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:00 am

DCNTUA wrote:
Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:Columbia reports that three people transferred from CLS->CLS.


Michigan also shows one Mich -> Mich.

LLM's transferring into the J.D. program

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby Nebby » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:01 am

sesto elemento wrote:
CounselorNebby wrote:
DCNTUA wrote:I wonder how they account for schools that don't calculate or publish GPAs.

What? These are the GPAs of 1Ls. If there are schools that don't give grades, then they're too TTT to transfer into the T12.


My guess is he's asking about 1Ls from Boalt and UChi who transfer to HYS.


I thought the Boalt grading scale was smilies and could be converted into letter grades. (Three smilies equals a B, three smilies and a 'good job!' sticker was an A).

At UChi they give vials containing the tears the homeless. Three vials equals a B, three vials and a copy of The Wealth of Nations equates to an A. Three vials, the book, and a sandwich taken from the hands of a homeless person at a soup kitchen is their version of a Cali/book award.
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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby Nebby » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:02 am

DCNTUA wrote:
sesto elemento wrote:
CounselorNebby wrote:
DCNTUA wrote:I wonder how they account for schools that don't calculate or publish GPAs.

What? These are the GPAs of 1Ls. If there are schools that don't give grades, then they're too TTT to transfer into the T12.


My guess is he's asking about 1Ls from Boalt and UChi who transfer to HYS.


Yes. And schools that don't calculate or publish GPAs, like Penn. You get grades but no GPA.


GPA calculator dot com

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby DCNTUA » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:03 am

CounselorNebby wrote:
GPA calculator dot com


Heh. Somehow I doubt this is ABA best practice.

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby Nebby » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:05 am

DCNTUA wrote:
CounselorNebby wrote:
GPA calculator dot com


Heh. Somehow I doubt this is ABA best practice.

You overestimate the ABA's competency. Haha

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby DoveBodyWash » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:07 am

sesto elemento wrote:
CounselorNebby wrote:
DCNTUA wrote:I wonder how they account for schools that don't calculate or publish GPAs.

What? These are the GPAs of 1Ls. If there are schools that don't give grades, then they're too TTT to transfer into the T12.


My guess is he's asking about 1Ls from Boalt and UChi who transfer to HYS.

you get a GPA from UChi, it's just not on the standard 4.0 scale or whatever. But in cases like that i'm guessing they just convert the GPA's into standard scale or they just leave them out

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby toothbrush » Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:58 am

Mullens wrote:By my count, 17 people transferred out of Cornell to other T14s. That seems really high given their relatively small class size.

Historically that is the amount that usually transfer out. The more interesting piece is that they didn't get many to transfer in. IIRC last year 12 transferred in, 17 out...

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby Longtimecoming19 » Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:47 am

Does anyone know what it means when under a school's JD Attrition tab, it shows 1st year transfers? For example, UChi apparently had two people 'transfer' during first year. It seems that people who transfer between their 1L and 2L years are ordinarily considered to be '2nd years' in this tab.

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Re: Yo Transfer N3rds, New Data

Postby BVest » Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:54 pm

Longtimecoming19 wrote:Does anyone know what it means when under a school's JD Attrition tab, it shows 1st year transfers? For example, UChi apparently had two people 'transfer' during first year. It seems that people who transfer between their 1L and 2L years are ordinarily considered to be '2nd years' in this tab.


I can't speak for the two UChi students of whom you speak, but there are a number of T/TT schools that accept 1L transfers in december/January.




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