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Thoughts on Selendy?
anyone have any recent intel on the place? Thinking about a move!
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Re: Thoughts on Selendy?
Probably the most up and coming complex litigation boutique in NYC right now. I wouldn't at all be surprised if it rivals Susman within a few yearsAnonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:04 amanyone have any recent intel on the place? Thinking about a move!
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Came off as weirdos in my interview then I didn't get an offer, maybe I'm the weirdo?
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It's an elite litigation boutique that's not quite as prestigious as Susman Godfrey (the crown jewel of litigation boutiques), but is still very well respected.
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Re: Thoughts on Selendy?
How does it compare to BSF/Quinn? Worse hours? Better opportunities?
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Re: Thoughts on Selendy?
BSF and Quinn are biglaw, so yeah. All else equal, better hours and better opportunities. But the standard caveat applies that it depends on the partners you're working for, the clients, and the specific matters.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:00 amHow does it compare to BSF/Quinn? Worse hours? Better opportunities?
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Any thoughts on how David Elsberg's departure will affect the firm's outlook?
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Re: Thoughts on Selendy?
The firm may be collapsing. One of the founding partners just left: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/business- ... er-elsberg
Proceed with caution. I have also heard pretty bad things. They may be similar to Quinn in many respects, but they are a much smaller firm, so it is not necessarily possible to escape bad partners...
Proceed with caution. I have also heard pretty bad things. They may be similar to Quinn in many respects, but they are a much smaller firm, so it is not necessarily possible to escape bad partners...
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Hours are much worse than Quinn. They took a few of the most extreme workaholics from Quinn and built a whole firm around them..Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:27 amBSF and Quinn are biglaw, so yeah. All else equal, better hours and better opportunities. But the standard caveat applies that it depends on the partners you're working for, the clients, and the specific matters.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:00 amHow does it compare to BSF/Quinn? Worse hours? Better opportunities?
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Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:27 amBSF and Quinn are biglaw, so yeah. All else equal, better hours and better opportunities. But the standard caveat applies that it depends on the partners you're working for, the clients, and the specific matters.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:00 amHow does it compare to BSF/Quinn? Worse hours? Better opportunities?
BSF is not big law.
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These two are not in the same league of selectivity.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:29 amIt's an elite litigation boutique that's not quite as prestigious as Susman Godfrey (the crown jewel of litigation boutiques), but is still very well respected.
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Did the comment you're replying to imply otherwise?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:08 amThese two are not in the same league of selectivity.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:29 amIt's an elite litigation boutique that's not quite as prestigious as Susman Godfrey (the crown jewel of litigation boutiques), but is still very well respected.
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Re: Thoughts on Selendy?
I wouldn't go that far. I'd say the top tier of boutiques is Susman, Kellogg, and Bartlit, the best boutiques in their respective markets. Selendy is in the tier just below, along with Molo, Hueston, and some others. It's still very reputable, just not the top choice for clerks with the grades to go anywhere they please.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:08 amThese two are not in the same league of selectivity.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:29 amIt's an elite litigation boutique that's not quite as prestigious as Susman Godfrey (the crown jewel of litigation boutiques), but is still very well respected.
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Would you say Wilkinson Stekloff and Selendy are on the same level?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:48 pmI wouldn't go that far. I'd say the top tier of boutiques is Susman, Kellogg, and Bartlit, the best boutiques in their respective markets. Selendy is in the tier just below, along with Molo, Hueston, and some others. It's still very reputable, just not the top choice for clerks with the grades to go anywhere they please.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:08 amThese two are not in the same league of selectivity.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:29 amIt's an elite litigation boutique that's not quite as prestigious as Susman Godfrey (the crown jewel of litigation boutiques), but is still very well respected.
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Yes, I put Wilkinson in that very next tier also. It's a reputable boutique with a superstar name partner, but it has not yet become a household name to the point where it would survive, unchanged, if Beth Wilkinson retired. Susman has already had several succesful leadership handoffs, and at Kellogg and Bartlit the name partners have begun to step back and hand the reins over to a new generation of stars they helped train.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:09 pmWould you say Wilkinson Stekloff and Selendy are on the same level?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:48 pmI wouldn't go that far. I'd say the top tier of boutiques is Susman, Kellogg, and Bartlit, the best boutiques in their respective markets. Selendy is in the tier just below, along with Molo, Hueston, and some others. It's still very reputable, just not the top choice for clerks with the grades to go anywhere they please.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:08 amThese two are not in the same league of selectivity.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:29 amIt's an elite litigation boutique that's not quite as prestigious as Susman Godfrey (the crown jewel of litigation boutiques), but is still very well respected.
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Not sure this is a good or helpful comparison for people thinking about working at one or the other. My understanding is that Selendy's leverage ratio looks a lot more like a normal biglaw shop and the work associates do is pretty similar as well. Think: larger teams, more associates per case, etc.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:35 amProbably the most up and coming complex litigation boutique in NYC right now. I wouldn't at all be surprised if it rivals Susman within a few yearsAnonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:04 amanyone have any recent intel on the place? Thinking about a move!
Contrast that with Susman, where the staffing is incredibly lean (often just 1 partner/1 associate) and associates are taking depositions, etc, within a few months of starting.
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Re: Thoughts on Selendy?
Selendy is certainly not as selective as Molo or Wilkinson. Can't speak for Hueston as it seems to be expanding really fast and I'm not sure what its status is. I have also heard that Selendy took a lot of the most toxic partners from Quinn and would really hesitate to advise someone to work there.
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OP I know this is beyond the scope of your question but have you given thought to why you want to work for a lit boutique? The range of offerings and practice groups are typically narrower than you get at a comparably elite larger firm in NY.
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Elsberg has "officially" gone off on his own: https://www.elsberglaw.com/
would be fascinated to know more about why and what kind of work he's taking with him
would be fascinated to know more about why and what kind of work he's taking with him
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All the partners seem like they do corporate governance / securities litigation / Delaware Chancery type of work but not sure. The motivation would be super interesting to learn more about, although I'm sure the toxicity of Selendy didn't help.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:11 pmElsberg has "officially" gone off on his own: https://www.elsberglaw.com/
would be fascinated to know more about why and what kind of work he's taking with him
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Re: Thoughts on Selendy?
Agreed on this. Molo/Wilkinson/Hueston are a tier above Selendy, both in terms of their selectivity, and matters handled.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:04 pmSelendy is certainly not as selective as Molo or Wilkinson. Can't speak for Hueston as it seems to be expanding really fast and I'm not sure what its status is. I have also heard that Selendy took a lot of the most toxic partners from Quinn and would really hesitate to advise someone to work there.
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Re: Thoughts on Selendy?
All of the above has truth. Very high expectations and intense culture. SG is progressive and has elite commercial bet-the-company litigation matters (both plaintiff and defense) and leading pro bono cases. Recently, DE started a firm with partners from Quinn and several newly made SG partners. That firm will also be quite strong, as DE has a big book - bankruptcy, DE Chancery, high-stakes commercial cases, etc.
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These litigation boutiques sprout up like cockroaches. Here today, gone tomorrow.
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I have some talented friends who work there. When I considered Selendy, the range of litigation work was too narrow for my taste, but that was years ago and times may have changed.
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Psycho gunners with no chill running pretty high-profile litigation.
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