None of those are underrated though. Everyone knows of those NY/DC boutiques.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:57 pmMany consider Susman and Kellogg the two best boutiques and they're in NY and DC. Then there's Molo, Wilkinson, and others with presences in both cities. DC has many respected political / appellate boutiques.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:19 pmDC and NY do not have the same boutique culture as in SF/LA.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:19 amCurious about under the radar boutiques (read: not Molo, Wilkinson, Susman, etc.) in NY and DC.gaddockteeg wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:50 pmWhat city? In SF, there's a big boutique firm culture. The firms are super selective, generally have "better" exit opportunities than big law and better substantive experiences for younger lawyers.
I know of Farella Braun, Keker, Shartsis, I forget the name but Miranda Kane's law firm, Lewis Lewellyn, Durie Tangri, Braunhagey, and Coblentz. They generally all have revolving doors to the USAO and count members of the bench as alumni.
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In DC there's also Gupta Wessler and Goldstein Russell (for liberals), and Cooper & Kirk, Consovoy McCarthy, Clement & Murphy, and Lehotsky Keller (for conservatives). Plus Kobre & Kim is good at what it specializes in.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:30 pmNone of those are underrated though. Everyone knows of those NY/DC boutiques.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:57 pmMany consider Susman and Kellogg the two best boutiques and they're in NY and DC. Then there's Molo, Wilkinson, and others with presences in both cities. DC has many respected political / appellate boutiques.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:19 pmDC and NY do not have the same boutique culture as in SF/LA.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:19 amCurious about under the radar boutiques (read: not Molo, Wilkinson, Susman, etc.) in NY and DC.gaddockteeg wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:50 pmWhat city? In SF, there's a big boutique firm culture. The firms are super selective, generally have "better" exit opportunities than big law and better substantive experiences for younger lawyers.
I know of Farella Braun, Keker, Shartsis, I forget the name but Miranda Kane's law firm, Lewis Lewellyn, Durie Tangri, Braunhagey, and Coblentz. They generally all have revolving doors to the USAO and count members of the bench as alumni.
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In ten years, half of those firms will have ceased to exist.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:47 pmIn DC there's also Gupta Wessler and Goldstein Russell (for liberals), and Cooper & Kirk, Consovoy McCarthy, Clement & Murphy, and Lehotsky Keller (for conservatives). Plus Kobre & Kim is good at what it specializes in.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 8:30 pmNone of those are underrated though. Everyone knows of those NY/DC boutiques.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:57 pmMany consider Susman and Kellogg the two best boutiques and they're in NY and DC. Then there's Molo, Wilkinson, and others with presences in both cities. DC has many respected political / appellate boutiques.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:19 pmDC and NY do not have the same boutique culture as in SF/LA.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:19 amCurious about under the radar boutiques (read: not Molo, Wilkinson, Susman, etc.) in NY and DC.gaddockteeg wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:50 pmWhat city? In SF, there's a big boutique firm culture. The firms are super selective, generally have "better" exit opportunities than big law and better substantive experiences for younger lawyers.
I know of Farella Braun, Keker, Shartsis, I forget the name but Miranda Kane's law firm, Lewis Lewellyn, Durie Tangri, Braunhagey, and Coblentz. They generally all have revolving doors to the USAO and count members of the bench as alumni.
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Same question, but for LA!
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The OP asked about underrated boutiques. I'm curious about this as well. The posts so far are largely unresponsive.
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Actually underrated boutiques are going to be firms in secondary/tertiary markets that hire competitively with top boutiques elsewhere. Like Bondurant Mixson in Atlanta or Dowd Bennett in St. Louis. To be clear I don't know anything about those firms in particular, though I understand that they're very competitive and do good work, but I think that's the type you'd look for.
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Bumping for underrated NYC/DC/Chicago boutiques.
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Look at Vault's 2024 Best Litigation Specialty Law Firms
Underrated lit boutiques (NYC), I guess, are solid firms not on the Vault list, including (in no particular order):
- Clark Smith
- Holwell
- Levine Lee
- Morvillo
- Pallas
- Petrillo Klein
- Krieger Kim
- Shapiro
- Sher Tremonte
- Patterson
- Bernstein (Plaintiff)
- Labaton (Pl)
- Lieff (Pl)
- Robbins Geller (Pl)
- Seeger Weiss (Pl)
- Walden Macht (Pl)
- Pomerantz (Pl)
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Underrated lit boutiques (NYC), I guess, are solid firms not on the Vault list, including (in no particular order):
- Clark Smith
- Holwell
- Levine Lee
- Morvillo
- Pallas
- Petrillo Klein
- Krieger Kim
- Shapiro
- Sher Tremonte
- Patterson
- Bernstein (Plaintiff)
- Labaton (Pl)
- Lieff (Pl)
- Robbins Geller (Pl)
- Seeger Weiss (Pl)
- Walden Macht (Pl)
- Pomerantz (Pl)
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What are the DC equivalents?pointplace wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:48 amLook at Vault's 2024 Best Litigation Specialty Law Firms
Underrated lit boutiques (NYC), I guess, are solid firms not on the Vault list, including (in no particular order):
- Clark Smith
- Holwell
- Levine Lee
- Morvillo
- Pallas
- Petrillo Klein
- Krieger Kim
- Shapiro
- Sher Tremonte
- Patterson
- Bernstein (Plaintiff)
- Labaton (Pl)
- Lieff (Pl)
- Robbins Geller (Pl)
- Seeger Weiss (Pl)
- Walden Macht (Pl)
- Pomerantz (Pl)
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Click the link and get back to us once you've figured it outAnonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:57 pmWhat are the DC equivalents?pointplace wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:48 amLook at Vault's 2024 Best Litigation Specialty Law Firms
Underrated lit boutiques (NYC), I guess, are solid firms not on the Vault list, including (in no particular order):
- Clark Smith
- Holwell
- Levine Lee
- Morvillo
- Pallas
- Petrillo Klein
- Krieger Kim
- Shapiro
- Sher Tremonte
- Patterson
- Bernstein (Plaintiff)
- Labaton (Pl)
- Lieff (Pl)
- Robbins Geller (Pl)
- Seeger Weiss (Pl)
- Walden Macht (Pl)
- Pomerantz (Pl)
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Not sure how the Vault list is supposed to help me figure out solid firms not on the Vault list, but thanks for that helpful response.The Lsat Airbender wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:00 pmClick the link and get back to us once you've figured it outAnonymous User wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:57 pmWhat are the DC equivalents?pointplace wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:48 amLook at Vault's 2024 Best Litigation Specialty Law Firms
Underrated lit boutiques (NYC), I guess, are solid firms not on the Vault list, including (in no particular order):
- Clark Smith
- Holwell
- Levine Lee
- Morvillo
- Pallas
- Petrillo Klein
- Krieger Kim
- Shapiro
- Sher Tremonte
- Patterson
- Bernstein (Plaintiff)
- Labaton (Pl)
- Lieff (Pl)
- Robbins Geller (Pl)
- Seeger Weiss (Pl)
- Walden Macht (Pl)
- Pomerantz (Pl)
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Apologies if I am being either pedantic or illiterate, but does Pl mean "plaintiff" or "personal injury"? I ask because most of these firms are plaintiff's firms that focus on securities class actions. (This is a pretty good list of plaintiff's securities class action firms BTW, though I'd probably add Cohen Milstein to the list.) I can't think of a really prominent personal injury/product liability firm (like Hagens Berman, Motley Rice, Wisner Baum, Kline & Specter, etc.) that is based in NYC, but I am sure I am overlooking someone.pointplace wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:48 amLook at Vault's 2024 Best Litigation Specialty Law Firms
Underrated lit boutiques (NYC), I guess, are solid firms not on the Vault list, including (in no particular order):
- Clark Smith
- Holwell
- Levine Lee
- Morvillo
- Pallas
- Petrillo Klein
- Krieger Kim
- Shapiro
- Sher Tremonte
- Patterson
- Bernstein (Plaintiff)
- Labaton (Pl)
- Lieff (Pl)
- Robbins Geller (Pl)
- Seeger Weiss (Pl)
- Walden Macht (Pl)
- Pomerantz (Pl)
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Leaving aside Hueston Hennigan/Susman, I think that Bird Marella, Ellis George, and Larson are pretty good shops. I wouldn't recommend Miller Barondess (which is a Glaser Weil spinoff) or Kendall Brill (which is an Irell spinoff). Big firms in LA are pretty active about acquiring strong boutiques and a lot of the great boutiques (Caldwell Leslie, Scheper Kim, etc.) have been gobbled up in the last several years.
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Pl means plaintiff (namely securities lit, like you said)Anonymous User wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 1:27 amApologies if I am being either pedantic or illiterate, but does Pl mean "plaintiff" or "personal injury"? I ask because most of these firms are plaintiff's firms that focus on securities class actions. (This is a pretty good list of plaintiff's securities class action firms BTW, though I'd probably add Cohen Milstein to the list.) I can't think of a really prominent personal injury/product liability firm (like Hagens Berman, Motley Rice, Wisner Baum, Kline & Specter, etc.) that is based in NYC, but I am sure I am overlooking someone.pointplace wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:48 amLook at Vault's 2024 Best Litigation Specialty Law Firms
Underrated lit boutiques (NYC), I guess, are solid firms not on the Vault list, including (in no particular order):
- Clark Smith
- Holwell
- Levine Lee
- Morvillo
- Pallas
- Petrillo Klein
- Krieger Kim
- Shapiro
- Sher Tremonte
- Patterson
- Bernstein (Plaintiff)
- Labaton (Pl)
- Lieff (Pl)
- Robbins Geller (Pl)
- Seeger Weiss (Pl)
- Walden Macht (Pl)
- Pomerantz (Pl)
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What are some underrated DC DC boutiques?
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Bumping for underrated DC/Chicago boutiques.
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Don’t know much about it but Miller Shakman hires people with very strong resumes in Chicago. Riley Safer seems to be good too. Obviously Bartlit, Eimer Stahl, Goldman Ismail, MoloLamken, but I don’t think those are underrated.
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If plaintiff-side is included, Keller Postman is a good underrated DC boutique (also in Chicago).
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Curious about this as well.
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Just go to Covington or Wilmer (preferably the former ofc) Boutiques are generally overrated and offer less name recognition, fewer connections/worse networking, and no better career experience than the top DC biglaw firms
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What’s the day to day like at the top DC biglaw firms for someone coming off a circuit clerkship?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:50 pmJust go to Covington or Wilmer (preferably the former ofc) Boutiques are generally overrated and offer less name recognition, fewer connections/worse networking, and no better career experience than the top DC biglaw firms
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i assume it's the same as anyone else in the DC biglaw firms unless you're put into the appellate group right?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 9:07 pmWhat’s the day to day like at the top DC biglaw firms for someone coming off a circuit clerkship?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:50 pmJust go to Covington or Wilmer (preferably the former ofc) Boutiques are generally overrated and offer less name recognition, fewer connections/worse networking, and no better career experience than the top DC biglaw firms
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This is bizarre advice. The top DC boutiques (Kellogg, Wilkinson, etc.) all offer much better early trial experience than big firms. At boutiques, it is not uncommon for associates to begin deposing witnesses or arguing in court within months of starting. At bigger firms, there are still senior associates who haven't taken a depo. Of course, that early responsibility also means long hours and stress. There are pros and cons to the boutique lifestyle.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:50 pmJust go to Covington or Wilmer (preferably the former ofc) Boutiques are generally overrated and offer less name recognition, fewer connections/worse networking, and no better career experience than the top DC biglaw firms
The choice to single out Covington and Wilmer is also strange. Covington does mostly regulatory work, has no elite trial lawyers, and doesn't have much of an appeals group. Wilmer does less regulatory work and a notable appeals group but it similarly lacking in trial opportunities. For anyone seriously considering a litigation boutique, Williams & Connolly, Gibson, Kirkland, and Paul Weiss are all more obvious fits.
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how's latham in dc
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