What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby zot1 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:35 pm

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zot1 wrote:Impressing family friends.


My parents friends are impressed by the local billboard attorneys who went to Stetson. They've never heard of the firm I work for.


I'm sure they'd be impressed if they knew how much you made.


Plenty of the guys on the billboards make a hell of a lot more.


Still doesn't mean the family friends wouldn't be impressed by a biglaw salary...

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby Abbie Doobie » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:36 pm

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RaceJudicata wrote:
zot1 wrote:
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zot1 wrote:Impressing family friends.


My parents friends are impressed by the local billboard attorneys who went to Stetson. They've never heard of the firm I work for.


I'm sure they'd be impressed if they knew how much you made.


Plenty of the guys on the billboards make a hell of a lot more.


Yeah I hear those torts lawyers make a killing. There's a reason why they're reviled as "ambulance chasers."


u think that some rando biglaw associate can afford to advertise their practice on a billboard along i-70? i rest my case

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby Abbie Doobie » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:37 pm

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RaceJudicata wrote:
zot1 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
zot1 wrote:Impressing family friends.


My parents friends are impressed by the local billboard attorneys who went to Stetson. They've never heard of the firm I work for.


I'm sure they'd be impressed if they knew how much you made.


Plenty of the guys on the billboards make a hell of a lot more.


Yeah I hear those torts lawyers make a killing. There's a reason why they're reviled as "ambulance chasers."


u think that some rando biglaw associate can afford to advertise their practice on a billboard along i-70? i rest my case



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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby RaceJudicata » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:00 pm

Abbie Doobie wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:
zot1 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
zot1 wrote:Impressing family friends.


My parents friends are impressed by the local billboard attorneys who went to Stetson. They've never heard of the firm I work for.


I'm sure they'd be impressed if they knew how much you made.


Plenty of the guys on the billboards make a hell of a lot more.


Yeah I hear those torts lawyers make a killing. There's a reason why they're reviled as "ambulance chasers."


u think that some rando biglaw associate can afford to advertise their practice on a billboard along i-70? i rest my case


I'd LOVE to see some independently wealthy big law associate, in a blaze of glory, throw up a billboard advertising their practice/firm with some goofy pictures and a great catch phrase.

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby dixiecupdrinking » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:08 pm

ymmv, but lack of face time and generally being treated like a professional can be benefits

You'll work more than most jobs but at many firms, as long as you get your job done, the people you work for will keep far less track of your whereabouts than most jobs.

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:50 pm

-Compensation
-Exit options
-Autonomy/lack of face time/being treated like a professional (depends)
-Training (depends)
-Interesting work (depends)

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby WhiteCollarBlueShirt » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:00 pm

Suffering for others... learning valuable info to be able to dissuade offspring and future generations...

But for real, it's an acceptable resume line and pays the bills... not a great job, but a job.

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby Monochromatic Oeuvre » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:30 pm

Biglaw is always an acceptable excuse to get out of bullshit obligations for friends/family whether or not you actually have work.
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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:31 pm

The best part about BigLaw is having a better appreciation for Patrick Bateman


and the salary

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby sublime » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:33 pm

Exit options, resources, several nice perks

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:40 pm

For me, as a litigator, it's definitely attention to detail. I'm a much better writer now and I actually pay attention to small details that I would have blown through or cut corners in in they past. I want to be a trial lawyer, and even have been doing trial work in biglaw, but the habit of caring about the details has definitely made me a better lawyer.

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby favabeansoup » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:For me, as a litigator, it's definitely attention to detail. I'm a much better writer now and I actually pay attention to small details that I would have blown through or cut corners in in they past. I want to be a trial lawyer, and even have been doing trial work in biglaw, but the habit of caring about the details has definitely made me a better lawyer.


My small experience as a judicial intern in a big city echoed this. Reading briefs from small firms or solo shops was hard because it would be full of typos and inconsistencies. Biglaw firm briefs were meticulously drafted, precise, logical and organized.

The biglaw firms definitely give you good substantive training on a litigation front I think.

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby Pragmatic Gun » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:01 pm

Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:Biglaw is always an acceptable excuse to get out of bullshit obligations for friends/family whether or not you actually have work.

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby RaceJudicata » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:03 pm

favabeansoup wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:For me, as a litigator, it's definitely attention to detail. I'm a much better writer now and I actually pay attention to small details that I would have blown through or cut corners in in they past. I want to be a trial lawyer, and even have been doing trial work in biglaw, but the habit of caring about the details has definitely made me a better lawyer.


My small experience as a judicial intern in a big city echoed this. Reading briefs from small firms or solo shops was hard because it would be full of typos and inconsistencies. Biglaw firm briefs were meticulously drafted, precise, logical and organized.

The biglaw firms definitely give you good substantive training on a litigation front I think.


Off subject, but that's a dangerous assumption. Plenty of small shops that produce good work product; plenty big law work isn't that great.

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby Barry grandpapy » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:04 pm

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby sublime » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:07 pm

RaceJudicata wrote:
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Anonymous User wrote:For me, as a litigator, it's definitely attention to detail. I'm a much better writer now and I actually pay attention to small details that I would have blown through or cut corners in in they past. I want to be a trial lawyer, and even have been doing trial work in biglaw, but the habit of caring about the details has definitely made me a better lawyer.


My small experience as a judicial intern in a big city echoed this. Reading briefs from small firms or solo shops was hard because it would be full of typos and inconsistencies. Biglaw firm briefs were meticulously drafted, precise, logical and organized.

The biglaw firms definitely give you good substantive training on a litigation front I think.


Off subject, but that's a dangerous assumption. Plenty of small shops that produce good work product; plenty big law work isn't that great.


Sure. And it seems to be more a function of the client willing to pay several thousand dollars for proofreading alone. But in my experience biglaw work is way more polished overall.

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby gander14 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:18 pm

I knew the salary was going to be nice, I knew the exit opps would look pretty good, but the benefit that surprised me is the autonomy (as has been mentioned a few times). Within reason, I go to work when I want and I leave work when I want. I never have to make an excuse to leave the office early, or to decide last-minute to take a long weekend, or to work remotely, or to take a long lunch/walk in the middle of the workday (of course, as long as none of this conflicts with any actual deadlines/meetings/calls). It's nice to be treated and trusted like an adult.

Another underrated aspect is the solitude. If you are not in NY, you probably have your own office. Depending on the types of projects you are on, especially early in your career, you can avoid extensive conversations or facetime with people for days on end. It's not for everyone, but I like it.

I actually hate that everyone I work with is smart and driven. One of the things I miss most about my past career is being one of the most competent people. It made it really easy to look good and to slack.

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby dixiecupdrinking » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:For me, as a litigator, it's definitely attention to detail. I'm a much better writer now and I actually pay attention to small details that I would have blown through or cut corners in in they past. I want to be a trial lawyer, and even have been doing trial work in biglaw, but the habit of caring about the details has definitely made me a better lawyer.

I sometimes get irrationally envious of plaintiffs lawyers for being able to file some of the garbage they do without having to answer to a biglaw partner / client.

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby Johann » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:39 pm

the associate incest/gossip

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby Nebby » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:46 pm

Abbie Doobie wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
RaceJudicata wrote:
zot1 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
zot1 wrote:Impressing family friends.


My parents friends are impressed by the local billboard attorneys who went to Stetson. They've never heard of the firm I work for.


I'm sure they'd be impressed if they knew how much you made.


Plenty of the guys on the billboards make a hell of a lot more.


Yeah I hear those torts lawyers make a killing. There's a reason why they're reviled as "ambulance chasers."


u think that some rando biglaw associate can afford to advertise their practice on a billboard along i-70? i rest my case

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby Toni V » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:47 pm

Sometimes it's just the little things, like my daily spectacular view of the city from my skyscraper office. I look down and watch the traffic helicopters fly by.
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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby Nebby » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:48 pm

RaceJudicata wrote:
favabeansoup wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:For me, as a litigator, it's definitely attention to detail. I'm a much better writer now and I actually pay attention to small details that I would have blown through or cut corners in in they past. I want to be a trial lawyer, and even have been doing trial work in biglaw, but the habit of caring about the details has definitely made me a better lawyer.


My small experience as a judicial intern in a big city echoed this. Reading briefs from small firms or solo shops was hard because it would be full of typos and inconsistencies. Biglaw firm briefs were meticulously drafted, precise, logical and organized.

The biglaw firms definitely give you good substantive training on a litigation front I think.


Off subject, but that's a dangerous assumption. Plenty of small shops that produce good work product; plenty big law work isn't that great.

Yes. I'm across the v. with a well known Chicago biglaw firm and some of the shit they file makes me question whether their clients should even pay them.

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby queso » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:49 pm

lymenheimer wrote:http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=170603


viewtopic.php?f=23&t=170603

User has been outed and warned for needless anon and posting as a 0L.

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:16 am

Nothing. The job sucks.

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Re: What are the positive aspects of Biglaw - besides salary?

Postby bk1 » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:33 am

Anonymous User wrote:
lymenheimer wrote:http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=170603


viewtopic.php?f=23&t=170603

The irony of criticizing someone for one rule (0Ls) while violating that rule and another (anon).

Anyways, while it is a 0L-ish question, I do not believe OP is violating the rules so y'all can stop citing the rules.



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