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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by LawSch00lLurker » Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:48 am

Class of 2018 -

205 base
40 - 50K bonus
25k signing bonus

Tech Counsel for an international investment bank. Hours should be 9-5.

Never did Big Law. Have been in house my entire career.

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jan 06, 2024 10:02 pm

LawSch00lLurker wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:48 am
Class of 2018 -

205 base
40 - 50K bonus
25k signing bonus

Tech Counsel for an international investment bank. Hours should be 9-5.

Never did Big Law. Have been in house my entire career.
This is awesome. What market?

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:32 am

Class of 2017
Associate at a plaintiff-side class action boutique

Base: $205k
Bonus: Varies wildly based on performance of the firm and the cases I work on specifically - $10k to $100k with a mode of around $40k
Hours: 1700 billed; firm average probably closer to 1600

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:32 am
Class of 2017
Associate at a plaintiff-side class action boutique

Base: $205k
Bonus: Varies wildly based on performance of the firm and the cases I work on specifically - $10k to $100k with a mode of around $40k
Hours: 1700 billed; firm average probably closer to 1600
That's a very manageable amount of hours and solid pay. Which market?
Did you negotiate your hours before joining?

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 3:02 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:32 am
Class of 2017
Associate at a plaintiff-side class action boutique

Base: $205k
Bonus: Varies wildly based on performance of the firm and the cases I work on specifically - $10k to $100k with a mode of around $40k
Hours: 1700 billed; firm average probably closer to 1600
That's a very manageable amount of hours and solid pay. Which market?
Did you negotiate your hours before joining?
Major Acela corridor market. No negotiation.

I see many of my former classmates and colleagues making far more money in biglaw, but the hours and other benefits (100% remote flexibility allowed, 7 weeks of PTO including holidays) make up for it so far. Though I'd love some more cash to buy a big house in this expensive market.

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by RBlackLaw » Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:15 pm

LawSch00lLurker wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:48 am
Class of 2018 -

205 base
40 - 50K bonus
25k signing bonus

Tech Counsel for an international investment bank. Hours should be 9-5.

Never did Big Law. Have been in house my entire career.
This sounds like a great gig! How did you go about getting an in house position straight out of law school?

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by RBlackLaw » Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:55 am
Class of 2017 - Regulatory Specialist, NYC
Base: 190
Bonus: 40
Signing: 100 in cash/stock
Other: Probably another 15 in additional benefits - 401k match, etc.
Industry: Manufacturing
Hours 9-5 at most

Pay is not as much as tech or finance but I think the lifestyle is proportionally better from what I've heard from many folks.
If you don't mind me asking, what background did you have to land this type of role?

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:49 pm

RBlackLaw wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:24 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:55 am
Class of 2017 - Regulatory Specialist, NYC
Base: 190
Bonus: 40
Signing: 100 in cash/stock
Other: Probably another 15 in additional benefits - 401k match, etc.
Industry: Manufacturing
Hours 9-5 at most

Pay is not as much as tech or finance but I think the lifestyle is proportionally better from what I've heard from many folks.
If you don't mind me asking, what background did you have to land this type of role?
I was in the relevant practice area group at a biglaw firm until I landed the job. The thing about specialist groups in biglaw are that there are, at least in my case, very very few inhouse openings with large public companies who really only want senior-ish people. Happy to answer any other questions about it. As far as the group - think energy, antitrust, SEC, that kind of thing. These biglaw groups/sub-groups tend to be quite small, so trying not to out myself here.

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by RBlackLaw » Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:49 pm
RBlackLaw wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:24 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:55 am
Class of 2017 - Regulatory Specialist, NYC
Base: 190
Bonus: 40
Signing: 100 in cash/stock
Other: Probably another 15 in additional benefits - 401k match, etc.
Industry: Manufacturing
Hours 9-5 at most

Pay is not as much as tech or finance but I think the lifestyle is proportionally better from what I've heard from many folks.
If you don't mind me asking, what background did you have to land this type of role?
I was in the relevant practice area group at a biglaw firm until I landed the job. The thing about specialist groups in biglaw are that there are, at least in my case, very very few inhouse openings with large public companies who really only want senior-ish people. Happy to answer any other questions about it. As far as the group - think energy, antitrust, SEC, that kind of thing. These biglaw groups/sub-groups tend to be quite small, so trying not to out myself here.
Roughly how long were you in Big Law before making the switch?

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:58 am

RBlackLaw wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:54 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:49 pm
RBlackLaw wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:24 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:55 am
Class of 2017 - Regulatory Specialist, NYC
Base: 190
Bonus: 40
Signing: 100 in cash/stock
Other: Probably another 15 in additional benefits - 401k match, etc.
Industry: Manufacturing
Hours 9-5 at most

Pay is not as much as tech or finance but I think the lifestyle is proportionally better from what I've heard from many folks.
If you don't mind me asking, what background did you have to land this type of role?
I was in the relevant practice area group at a biglaw firm until I landed the job. The thing about specialist groups in biglaw are that there are, at least in my case, very very few inhouse openings with large public companies who really only want senior-ish people. Happy to answer any other questions about it. As far as the group - think energy, antitrust, SEC, that kind of thing. These biglaw groups/sub-groups tend to be quite small, so trying not to out myself here.
Roughly how long were you in Big Law before making the switch?
About 6 years, so it was a recent move.

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:23 am

RBlackLaw wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:54 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:49 pm
RBlackLaw wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:24 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:55 am
Class of 2017 - Regulatory Specialist, NYC
Base: 190
Bonus: 40
Signing: 100 in cash/stock
Other: Probably another 15 in additional benefits - 401k match, etc.
Industry: Manufacturing
Hours 9-5 at most

Pay is not as much as tech or finance but I think the lifestyle is proportionally better from what I've heard from many folks.
If you don't mind me asking, what background did you have to land this type of role?
I was in the relevant practice area group at a biglaw firm until I landed the job. The thing about specialist groups in biglaw are that there are, at least in my case, very very few inhouse openings with large public companies who really only want senior-ish people. Happy to answer any other questions about it. As far as the group - think energy, antitrust, SEC, that kind of thing. These biglaw groups/sub-groups tend to be quite small, so trying not to out myself here.
Roughly how long were you in Big Law before making the switch?
About 6

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:14 pm

Class of 2015 - DC
Base: ~230
Bonus: 15-20%
Other: Generous 401k match, generous pension, affordable healthcare options, (job security), etc.
Industry: Fed Gov
Hours: Some weeks I work a soft 20 hours, others I work a hard 40-50. When things aren't crazy urgent/high profile, generally expect an easy 9-5.

I sometimes consider if I'll leave this to make more bank in the private sector. But for now, I have a hard time imagining giving this up.

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:14 pm
Class of 2015 - DC
Base: ~230
Bonus: 15-20%
Other: Generous 401k match, generous pension, affordable healthcare options, (job security), etc.
Industry: Fed Gov
Hours: Some weeks I work a soft 20 hours, others I work a hard 40-50. When things aren't crazy urgent/high profile, generally expect an easy 9-5.

I sometimes consider if I'll leave this to make more bank in the private sector. But for now, I have a hard time imagining giving this up.
Pardon my ignorance, but isn't that above the congressional pay cap even before bonus?

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:03 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:49 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:14 pm
Class of 2015 - DC
Base: ~230
Bonus: 15-20%
Other: Generous 401k match, generous pension, affordable healthcare options, (job security), etc.
Industry: Fed Gov
Hours: Some weeks I work a soft 20 hours, others I work a hard 40-50. When things aren't crazy urgent/high profile, generally expect an easy 9-5.

I sometimes consider if I'll leave this to make more bank in the private sector. But for now, I have a hard time imagining giving this up.
Pardon my ignorance, but isn't that above the congressional pay cap even before bonus?
Not the person you’re responding to, so this is speculation, but the SEC has a higher payscale.

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by RBlackLaw » Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:14 pm
Class of 2015 - DC
Base: ~230
Bonus: 15-20%
Other: Generous 401k match, generous pension, affordable healthcare options, (job security), etc.
Industry: Fed Gov
Hours: Some weeks I work a soft 20 hours, others I work a hard 40-50. When things aren't crazy urgent/high profile, generally expect an easy 9-5.

I sometimes consider if I'll leave this to make more bank in the private sector. But for now, I have a hard time imagining giving this up.
What kind of background did you have to land this role?

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:44 pm

RBlackLaw wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:44 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:14 pm
Class of 2015 - DC
Base: ~230
Bonus: 15-20%
Other: Generous 401k match, generous pension, affordable healthcare options, (job security), etc.
Industry: Fed Gov
Hours: Some weeks I work a soft 20 hours, others I work a hard 40-50. When things aren't crazy urgent/high profile, generally expect an easy 9-5.

I sometimes consider if I'll leave this to make more bank in the private sector. But for now, I have a hard time imagining giving this up.
What kind of background did you have to land this role?
And what's the practice area. I need/want to pursue it.

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:44 pm
RBlackLaw wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:44 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:14 pm
Class of 2015 - DC
Base: ~230
Bonus: 15-20%
Other: Generous 401k match, generous pension, affordable healthcare options, (job security), etc.
Industry: Fed Gov
Hours: Some weeks I work a soft 20 hours, others I work a hard 40-50. When things aren't crazy urgent/high profile, generally expect an easy 9-5.

I sometimes consider if I'll leave this to make more bank in the private sector. But for now, I have a hard time imagining giving this up.
What kind of background did you have to land this role?
And what's the practice area. I need/want to pursue it.
Obviously a pretty limited pool of people fit this profile, and I don't want to out myself. But had a mix of public/private experience.

I wish I had some magic to share but I fear it's mostly just luck (i.e., preparation + opportunity). These sort of roles are very "right experience from the right place at the right time." I threw out a blind application through the website, certain that I wouldn't get it, only to get the job in the end.

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:14 pm

Class of 2017 - SF
Base: 175k
Stock: 100k/vesting over 4yrs
Bonus: none
Other: none, no 401k match
Industry: tech, counsel for publicly traded non-FAANG
Hours: varies but 930-530, rarely on weekends

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:38 pm

C/o 2016
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$160k
100% remote

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:50 am

Class of 2013

Base: $240k
Annual bonus: 35% of base
Benefits: equity
Hours: 9-5. Remote.

Legal ops role.

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:29 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:50 am
Class of 2013

Base: $240k
Annual bonus: 35% of base
Benefits: equity
Hours: 9-5. Remote.

Legal ops role.
Nice. Can I DM you, please?

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:52 pm

Just went through annual comp so thought I'd add a data point here.

Class of 2013.
Legal/Compliance role at an F500. Tech.
Base: $285,000
Bonus: $100,000
Equity: Target $80,000/year vesting over 3.
Hours: 8-5, fully remote. Weekend work is exceedingly rare. Like 1-2 times a year.

Other stuff: On-site at the office once a month or so (paid for by company), international travel 3-4 times a year for projects. 4% 401(k) match. Solid cash signing bonus when I joined a few years back. Benefits are just okay, but comp overall feels really good with my hours. 5 weeks vacation and I use it all every year.

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:40 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:52 pm
Just went through annual comp so thought I'd add a data point here.

Class of 2013.
Legal/Compliance role at an F500. Tech.
Base: $285,000
Bonus: $100,000
Equity: Target $80,000/year vesting over 3.
Hours: 8-5, fully remote. Weekend work is exceedingly rare. Like 1-2 times a year.

Other stuff: On-site at the office once a month or so (paid for by company), international travel 3-4 times a year for projects. 4% 401(k) match. Solid cash signing bonus when I joined a few years back. Benefits are just okay, but comp overall feels really good with my hours. 5 weeks vacation and I use it all every year.
Awesome! Did you have any prior big law experience, or did you lateral from another in-house role, etc.? What kind of work do you do on the legal side and the compliance side? Is it a mix of legal and compliance?

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:11 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:40 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:52 pm
Just went through annual comp so thought I'd add a data point here.

Class of 2013.
Legal/Compliance role at an F500. Tech.
Base: $285,000
Bonus: $100,000
Equity: Target $80,000/year vesting over 3.
Hours: 8-5, fully remote. Weekend work is exceedingly rare. Like 1-2 times a year.

Other stuff: On-site at the office once a month or so (paid for by company), international travel 3-4 times a year for projects. 4% 401(k) match. Solid cash signing bonus when I joined a few years back. Benefits are just okay, but comp overall feels really good with my hours. 5 weeks vacation and I use it all every year.
Awesome! Did you have any prior big law experience, or did you lateral from another in-house role, etc.? What kind of work do you do on the legal side and the compliance side? Is it a mix of legal and compliance?
I spent about 5 years in biglaw doing white collar work mostly, and had a previous in-house stint prior to this role. My role is a mix of compliance advising, investigations, reporting, due diligence, policy development, it kind of runs the gamut.

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Re: LEGAL SALARY DATAPOINTS

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:40 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:03 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:49 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:14 pm
Class of 2015 - DC
Base: ~230
Bonus: 15-20%
Other: Generous 401k match, generous pension, affordable healthcare options, (job security), etc.
Industry: Fed Gov
Hours: Some weeks I work a soft 20 hours, others I work a hard 40-50. When things aren't crazy urgent/high profile, generally expect an easy 9-5.

I sometimes consider if I'll leave this to make more bank in the private sector. But for now, I have a hard time imagining giving this up.
Pardon my ignorance, but isn't that above the congressional pay cap even before bonus?
Not the person you’re responding to, so this is speculation, but the SEC has a higher payscale.
OP here--I missed this comment before. But yes, the finreg agencies have higher payscales. SEC/FDIC/Fed/OCC/maybe also CFTC and some others. We aren't subject to the cap.

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