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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:57 am

So how comfortable should I be bidding exclusively Bay Area with median grades and ties?

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:04 pm

I'm bidding all NYC transactional with 3Hs and 7Ps. I have pretty good work experience. Other than Wachtell, are all firms still in play for me? Is there anything that I shouldn't bid?

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:08 pm

4H with 2 of them in LRW. Minor ties to CA. If I bid NY, is everything open for me except for Wachtell?

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:19 pm

Thanks to whoever started this. I suggest we adopt anonymous tags, as has been done in previous threads, especially if you're asking a question or posting a bidlist. It makes things easier to keep track of.

Hopefully some alums will stop by to answer questions. Good luck everyone.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:07 pm

Any idea whether H's in LRW or a 2 credit seminar are seen as "less" than 1L BLL classes?

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby polareagle » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:27 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any idea whether H's in LRW or a 2 credit seminar are seen as "less" than 1L BLL classes?


In my experience no. Firms/judges generally seem to count Hs.

Some have suggested that judges may focus a little more on LRW grades in clerkship hiring (b/c writing is such an important part of that job), but that's very anecdotal.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby lawbeahs » Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:35 pm

How do I stand for EIP with 2DS, 2H, and 6P? Am I safe bidding solely on Boston (fairly strong ties), or should I also bid on NY to be safe? Any firms I shouldn't waste a bid on with my grades?

Also, how does 2DS, 2H, 6P translate to firms? Do they just read it as 4H, 6P or more like 6H, 4P, or somewhere in between?

Thanks!

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby nothingtosee » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:05 pm

Here we go. Do we put GPA on our résumé, or is that just gleaned from transcript?
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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:46 pm

3H (property, leg reg, elective) 7 Ps.

I want to split LA+OC/BOS/NYC somehow. Any recs on how to bid? I have strong soCal ties but am spending the summer in boston. I have a year of unrelated full time work experience, am interested in corporate transactional work, and have done some RA work for a prominent transactional law prof. Any advice is very much appreciated


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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby polareagle » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:20 pm

nothingtosee wrote:Here we go. Do we put GPA on our résumé, or is that just gleaned from transcript?


The GPA officially exists for internal purposes (Latin Honors) only, so you are not supposed to put it on your resume, clerkship apps, etc.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby nothingtosee » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:23 pm

polareagle wrote:
nothingtosee wrote:Here we go. Do we put GPA on our résumé, or is that just gleaned from transcript?


The GPA officially exists for internal purposes (Latin Honors) only, so you are not supposed to put it on your resume, clerkship apps, etc.


Weird.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:12 pm

Don't put your GPA on your resume for firms but for non firm jobs like consulting go ahead if you like.

Use OCS's guide about soft Hs (WE, Languages skills, etc). Also in one of the precious EIP threads there's a list of firms and their selectivity. Use this as a loose guide for formulating your strategy.

Beware of bidding west coast and/or DC exclusively. Everyone and I mean everyone who had nervous looks on their face towards the end of the week had done just that.

Ties are pretty much a flame. If you can convince someone to go on a date with you you can convince a firm that you really want to be in city X.

That brings me to my next point, having an engaging, outgoing personality that keeps the interviewer entertained can be worth 2+Hs. Interviewing skills are so important that if you are nervous about it, then you should start practicing now. Learn how to have a casual conversation about you, your resume, and your desire to bill.

I had 1 H and it was in Negotiation and dominated Boston and NYC with multiple V5/V10 offers.

EIP isn't the only answer, look into any job fairs in your target areas. Being. From HLS will get you a lion's share of screeners. If you have 0Hs/LPs start mass mailing firms now. While it might not turn out to be needed in the end (I know someone with an LP who did had multiple offers from EIP), it doesn't hurt.

Finally, this actually cannot be overstated. You go to HLS, you will get a market paying job. But you won't believe that until later so whatevs, go stress like you always have about everything.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:15 pm

Thoughts on 2DS, 6H (both LRWs), and 2P, and bidding primarily DC?

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby hlsperson1111 » Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Thoughts on 2DS, 6H (both LRWs), and 2P, and bidding primarily DC?


You're good to go.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby robotrick » Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Ties are pretty much a flame. If you can convince someone to go on a date with you you can convince a firm that you really want to be in city X.

I'm banking on this big time so I hope it's true


ETA: for anyone who doesn't know, HLSDope has the EIP stats in graph form for (imo) easier viewing than the spreadsheets from OCS
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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:42 pm

3H/7P, ties to Boston, 3 years as a V5 paralegal, and diverse. Can I bid only DC and Boston and avoid NY? My sense is DC will be tough, while Boston will be more doable. Is that inaccurate?

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:29 pm

3DS/4H (including both LRWs)/3P. Bidding NYC and DC with good work experience.

Are there any firms (ex. Wachtell/selective DC firms) that would be wasted bids or reaches?

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:38 pm

4Hs/6Ps. 1H in an elective. 1-year work experience. Bidding NY. Average interview skills. Is V10 doable? What sort of firms should I be looking at?

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby TripTrip » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:38 pm

robotrick wrote:
aonymous User wrote:Ties are pretty much a flame. If you can convince someone to go on a date with you you can convince a firm that you really want to be in city X.

I'm banking on this big time so I hope it's true


ETA: for anyone who doesn't know, HLSDope has the EIP stats in graph form for (imo) easier viewing than the spreadsheets from OCS

It also has links to Vault, Chambers, AM Law, and NALP for each firm office. Just give me 'til the weekend to get that part published.

While I'm here, anything else you're looking for in the research tool?

Edit: And grade stuff. We're working on grade stuff.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:48 pm

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby TripTrip » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:29 am

Clerking is usually something you do out of law school. You should definitely go to a firm for the summer.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:40 am

K-JD 2 DS 1 H interested in SF/SV -- OK-ish ties -- and NY -- no ties but that does not seem to matter.

For NY: is v10 going to be an option? Is it going to be worth bidding Cravath? (I know you're not supposed to do this but that would be my #1 pick)

For SF/SV: I assume MoFo is off the table.. What about Fenwick or Cooley? Any idea how grade snobby they are?

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:54 am

Anonymous User wrote:K-JD 2 DS 1 H interested in SF/SV -- OK-ish ties -- and NY -- no ties but that does not seem to matter.

For NY: is v10 going to be an option? Is it going to be worth bidding Cravath? (I know you're not supposed to do this but that would be my #1 pick)

For SF/SV: I assume MoFo is off the table.. What about Fenwick or Cooley? Any idea how grade snobby they are?


Is this true? I have read that MoFo dips below median for S.




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