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Well, now that all of that nonsense is over, and the firm list for OCI is going to be released tomorrow, I guess it's about time to make one of these threads.
Relevant dates:
Bidding: July 25 - August 2
View Your Interview Schedule: August 8
OCI Interviews: August 20 - August 30
Here's last years thread for reference: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=190405
Good luck everyone!
It has been pointed out that it is probably useful if people:
a) Share bid lists/where people missed out on firms when interviewing schedules are released; and
b) Include GPA and office location in posts announcing callbacks.
Relevant dates:
Bidding: July 25 - August 2
View Your Interview Schedule: August 8
OCI Interviews: August 20 - August 30
Here's last years thread for reference: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=190405
Good luck everyone!
It has been pointed out that it is probably useful if people:
a) Share bid lists/where people missed out on firms when interviewing schedules are released; and
b) Include GPA and office location in posts announcing callbacks.
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Thanks for making this!!! Best of luck team
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Post bid lists for critiques, callbacks, offers, etc.
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Finally - I've been waiting weeks for this thread. Rising 2L here as well.
1) I don't think Fried Frank requires a 178...
2) Did you not do writing comp? No chance at even a secondary?
3) Based on what I've seen on here, I'm pretty sure that they just look at averages, and won't start figuring out what your average would be with or without the bad grade. I know you kind of want to hear that the bad one will be written off as an aberration, but I don't think that's how it works; on the other hand, it won't be unproportionally counted against you either, so there's that. You will be considered with all the other just-below-178s. I don't think the 178 number is a hard cutoff, but it's getting into "risky bidding" territory for the grade-conscious firms. I don't know what "terrible" means, but if it's like a 174 or something I wouldn't worry about it. If you got Hammered with a 168 or the like, I would probably come up with a story for OCI just in case the interviewer isn't familiar with the legend.
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1) I don't think Fried Frank requires a 178...
2) Did you not do writing comp? No chance at even a secondary?
3) Based on what I've seen on here, I'm pretty sure that they just look at averages, and won't start figuring out what your average would be with or without the bad grade. I know you kind of want to hear that the bad one will be written off as an aberration, but I don't think that's how it works; on the other hand, it won't be unproportionally counted against you either, so there's that. You will be considered with all the other just-below-178s. I don't think the 178 number is a hard cutoff, but it's getting into "risky bidding" territory for the grade-conscious firms. I don't know what "terrible" means, but if it's like a 174 or something I wouldn't worry about it. If you got Hammered with a 168 or the like, I would probably come up with a story for OCI just in case the interviewer isn't familiar with the legend.
Are we doing the nickname thing? If so...
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Yeah, FF is not selective at all. Definitely still within reach if you're comfortably below median.
Also, firms don't generally care about one terrible grade sinking your GPA. They care about your GPA, very good grades and very bad grades included.
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Also, firms don't generally care about one terrible grade sinking your GPA. They care about your GPA, very good grades and very bad grades included.
-Recent UChi grad
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Could someone give examples of target firms in Chicago for someone with a GPA slightly under 178?
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For this poster as well others in the future, it would be good to know general info beyond your GPA to give input on this sort of thing. K-JD? Prior work experience? Diverse?Anonymous User wrote:Could someone give examples of target firms in Chicago for someone with a GPA slightly under 178?
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Sorry! I am new to this posting thing. K-JD, not diverse. Ties to the Chicago area.Anonymous User wrote:For this poster as well others in the future, it would be good to know general info beyond your GPA to give input on this sort of thing. K-JD? Prior work experience? Diverse?Anonymous User wrote:Could someone give examples of target firms in Chicago for someone with a GPA slightly under 178?
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Is it reasonable to shoot for Kirkland/Sidley/Mayer/Skadden Chicago with a 178.4, decent WE, a 1L SA, and not diverse? Or are those wasted bids? I'd say that I'm a solid interviewer with a demonstrable interest in certain practice areas.
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You're above the cutoff and have a good background. Why would you think they are wasted bids?Anonymous User wrote:Is it reasonable to shoot for Kirkland/Sidley/Mayer/Skadden Chicago with a 178.4, decent WE, a 1L SA, and not diverse? Or are those wasted bids? I'd say that I'm a solid interviewer with a demonstrable interest in certain practice areas.
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Probably the next tier of Chicago firms: Winston, Skadden, Latham, Proskauer, Baker McKenzie, Jones Day etc. The issue is that most of these firms have pretty small class sizes.Anonymous User wrote:Sorry! I am new to this posting thing. K-JD, not diverse. Ties to the Chicago area.Anonymous User wrote:For this poster as well others in the future, it would be good to know general info beyond your GPA to give input on this sort of thing. K-JD? Prior work experience? Diverse?Anonymous User wrote:Could someone give examples of target firms in Chicago for someone with a GPA slightly under 178?
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Anonymous User wrote:Probably the next tier of Chicago firms: Winston, Skadden, Latham, Proskauer, Baker McKenzie, Jones Day etc. The issue is that most of these firms have pretty small class sizes.Anonymous User wrote:Sorry! I am new to this posting thing. K-JD, not diverse. Ties to the Chicago area.Anonymous User wrote:For this poster as well others in the future, it would be good to know general info beyond your GPA to give input on this sort of thing. K-JD? Prior work experience? Diverse?Anonymous User wrote:Could someone give examples of target firms in Chicago for someone with a GPA slightly under 178?
-Steve Holt!
You really think you need a 178 for Sidley/Kirkland? The OCI grades sheet is pretty consistently saying both hire at least down to a bit below 177..
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That's why he wanted the K-JD info, WE, diversity, etc. I think it's safest to conservatively assume the person in the past who set the low bar for CBs or offers tends to have solid WE or diversity on their side. It's entirely possible that ~178 is the sweet spot for Sidley and Kirkland for people with an average resume.Anonymous User wrote: You really think you need a 178 for Sidley/Kirkland? The OCI grades sheet is pretty consistently saying both hire at least down to a bit below 177..
I really doubt it's a wasted bid though. There are so few SA slots in Chicago, that not bidding those 2 would be unwise until you are like below 176.5 or so imo.
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http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 6#p6921646
Lol. Lets try to have these threads merged or something so we don't have to check two threads. OP - try to pay better attention! Hahah
Lol. Lets try to have these threads merged or something so we don't have to check two threads. OP - try to pay better attention! Hahah
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Kirkland/Skadden/Sidley all have 84 slots. Do they all warrant a top-10 bid?
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I merged the two UChicago OCI 2013 threads.
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Our year you definitely had to bid K&E and Sidley in the top 10 (and possibly higher) in order to get an interview. I think I remember folks bidding K&E at 8 and missing out...Anonymous User wrote:Kirkland/Skadden/Sidley all have 84 slots. Do they all warrant a top-10 bid?
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177.3 - 177.7. Only interested in NY/Philly (the latter being mostly mass-mailed). No post-college work experience but probably more in college than most. Can tell a quasi-convincing transactional story (solid 1L experience in this regard as well), and want to practice transactional law.
Clearly Wachtell/CSM/Sullcrom are out, and DPW is probably not worth pushing other firms out of the way for, despite being reportedly "fit-focused." Any other firms in NY out of my league grade-wise? Thanks.
Clearly Wachtell/CSM/Sullcrom are out, and DPW is probably not worth pushing other firms out of the way for, despite being reportedly "fit-focused." Any other firms in NY out of my league grade-wise? Thanks.
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Anyone know if I should be emailing OCS to get answers to bidlist questions?
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Transferring in from USC/WUSTL/GW. Was top 1%. Any idea how aggressively I can bid/what GPA that may equate to at Chicago?
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