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I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby johnpierce14 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:34 pm

There are some helpful threads - like the procedural/mechanical aspects of looking for a job - but don't believe anything you believe on these forums. It's just fear mongering at its most disgusting level. This is the fox news of internet forums.

I was caught up in here for a while, then things worked out excellent for me (top 30 school, bottom half) and I feel FOOLISH for being stressed out by what I would read here on a nightly basis.

Unbelievable. These threads in the legal employment section epitomize why law school sucks, you're a masochist if you read too much into what some of these people claim.

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby rinkrat19 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:35 pm

johnpierce14 wrote:There are some helpful threads - like the procedural/mechanical aspects of looking for a job - but don't believe anything you believe on these forums. It's just fear mongering at its most disgusting level. This is the fox news of internet forums.

I was caught up in here for a while, then things worked out excellent for me (top 30 school, bottom half) and I feel FOOLISH for being stressed out by what I would read here on a nightly basis.

Unbelievable. These threads in the legal employment section epitomize why law school sucks, you're a masochist if you read too much into what some of these people claim.

Anecdote is anecdotal.

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Postby rad lulz » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:37 pm

johnpierce14 wrote:There are some helpful threads - like the procedural/mechanical aspects of looking for a job - but don't believe anything you believe on these forums. It's just fear mongering at its most disgusting level. This is the fox news of internet forums.

I was caught up in here for a while, then things worked out excellent for me (top 30 school, bottom half) and I feel FOOLISH for being stressed out by what I would read here on a nightly basis.

Unbelievable. These threads in the legal employment section epitomize why law school sucks, you're a masochist if you read too much into what some of these people claim.

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Postby kaiser » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:40 pm

johnpierce14 wrote:There are some helpful threads - like the procedural/mechanical aspects of looking for a job - but don't believe anything you believe on these forums. It's just fear mongering at its most disgusting level. This is the fox news of internet forums.

I was caught up in here for a while, then things worked out excellent for me (top 30 school, bottom half) and I feel FOOLISH for being stressed out by what I would read here on a nightly basis.

Unbelievable. These threads in the legal employment section epitomize why law school sucks, you're a masochist if you read too much into what some of these people claim.


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johnpierce14 wrote:There are some helpful threads - like the procedural/mechanical aspects of looking for a job - but don't believe anything you believe on these forums. It's just fear mongering at its most disgusting level. This is the fox news of internet forums.

I was caught up in here for a while, then things worked out excellent for me (top 30 school, bottom half) and I feel FOOLISH for being stressed out by what I would read here on a nightly basis.

Unbelievable. These threads in the legal employment section epitomize why law school sucks, you're a masochist if you read too much into what some of these people claim.


Agreed.

Everyone said getting a job "ITE" would be hard, but then I wound up first in my class and it was really easy. I can't believe all the fear mongering... everybody should just do what I did: be first in your class. That's really all it took for me.

Now I work for a great firm. Sure, I have a ton of friends who are unemployed or underemployed, and sure it's dramatically worse at lower ranked schools than at top schools. But I really think everything could have worked out for people if they'd just been first in their class.

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby FeelTheHeat » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:42 pm

johnpierce14 wrote:There are some helpful threads - like the procedural/mechanical aspects of looking for a job - but don't believe anything you believe on these forums. It's just fear mongering at its most disgusting level. This is the fox news of internet forums.

I was caught up in here for a while, then things worked out excellent for me (top 30 school, bottom half) and I feel FOOLISH for being stressed out by what I would read here on a nightly basis.

Unbelievable. These threads in the legal employment section epitomize why law school sucks, you're a masochist if you read too much into what some of these people claim.


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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby johnpierce14 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:42 pm

Well if you guys hadn't guessed this thread wasn't really directed at the people who waste their time doing exactly what I criticized, but more for the people who stop by these forums in a moment of weakness and actually believe the stuff they read here, but your cunty little responses have definitely verified my initial instinct that I'm just wasting my time.

Good luck future colleagues, you are all honorable men and women of the U.S. legal system.

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Postby rad lulz » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:45 pm

johnpierce14 wrote:Well if you guys hadn't guessed this thread wasn't really directed at the people who waste their time doing exactly what I criticized, but more for the people who stop by these forums in a moment of weakness and actually believe the stuff they read here, but your cunty little responses have definitely verified my initial instinct that I'm just wasting my time.

Good luck future colleagues, you are all honorable men and women of the U.S. legal system.

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Postby NYstate » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:48 pm

johnpierce14 wrote:Well if you guys hadn't guessed this thread wasn't really directed at the people who waste their time doing exactly what I criticized, but more for the people who stop by these forums in a moment of weakness and actually believe the stuff they read here, but your cunty little responses have definitely verified my initial instinct that I'm just wasting my time.

Good luck future colleagues, you are all honorable men and women of the U.S. legal system.


How many people from your school with your grades or better ( or worse ) got good jobs? Did you have prior experience or connections? Maybe instead of berating the posters here , you could give more data on how this worked out for you and others from your school.

LST is just numbers. Some actual facts of jobs from your school would be helpful.

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby wbrother » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:49 pm

This thread should be stickied.

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby johnpierce14 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:57 pm

There was nothing special about me..3.2 GPA, no connections, but had a good, earnest desire to become a lawyer and made a good impression at a small law firm and just received a full time offer before the holiday.

I'm not sure how the others in my class faired...I don't have any meaningful relationships with anyone in my class mostly because they remind me of the people on these forums. Some were certainly stand up guys, but I just went to class, learned, and got out. Not much else to it. I for one think anyone else with the same approach will be fine job wise, but more importantly won't have any sleepless nights or stressed filled days.

If you're set on Big Law, which I understand some people are, yeah, maybe you should be worried and ultra competitive...but then again the vast majority of lawyers do not work at Big Law, so it seems silly to think of that avenue as the only route a lawyer can take.

Obviously I'm slightly peeved and am operating with a chip on my shoulder, but I feel more "scammed" by some of the stuff I've read here than I do from paying 40k a year to my law school, for sure.

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Postby Ludo! » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:59 pm

johnpierce14 wrote:There was nothing special about me..3.2 GPA, no connections, but had a good, earnest desire to become a lawyer and made a good impression at a small law firm and just received a full time offer before the holiday.

I'm not sure how the others in my class faired...I don't have any meaningful relationships with anyone in my class mostly because they remind me of the people on these forums. Some were certainly stand up guys, but I just went to class, learned, and got out. Not much else to it. I for one think anyone else with the same approach will be fine job wise, but more importantly won't have any sleepless nights or stressed filled days.

If you're set on Big Law, which I understand some people are, yeah, maybe you should be worried and ultra competitive...but then again the vast majority of lawyers do not work at Big Law, so it seems silly to think of that avenue as the only route a lawyer can take.

Obviously I'm slightly peeved and am operating with a chip on my shoulder, but I feel more "scammed" by some of the stuff I've read here than I do from paying 40k a year to my law school, for sure.


Congrats on getting lucky. You sound like a total asshole

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby stillwater » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:00 pm

johnpierce14 wrote:There was nothing special about me..3.2 GPA, no connections, but had a good, earnest desire to become a lawyer and made a good impression at a small law firm and just received a full time offer before the holiday.

I'm not sure how the others in my class faired...I don't have any meaningful relationships with anyone in my class mostly because they remind me of the people on these forums. Some were certainly stand up guys, but I just went to class, learned, and got out. Not much else to it. I for one think anyone else with the same approach will be fine job wise, but more importantly won't have any sleepless nights or stressed filled days.

If you're set on Big Law, which I understand some people are, yeah, maybe you should be worried and ultra competitive...but then again the vast majority of lawyers do not work at Big Law, so it seems silly to think of that avenue as the only route a lawyer can take.

Obviously I'm slightly peeved and am operating with a chip on my shoulder, but I feel more "scammed" by some of the stuff I've read here than I do from paying 40k a year to my law school, for sure.


so you work in shitlaw?

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby FeelTheHeat » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:01 pm

johnpierce14 wrote:There was nothing special about me..3.2 GPA, no connections, but had a good, earnest desire to become a lawyer and made a good impression at a small law firm and just received a full time offer before the holiday.

I'm not sure how the others in my class faired...I don't have any meaningful relationships with anyone in my class mostly because they remind me of the people on these forums. Some were certainly stand up guys, but I just went to class, learned, and got out. Not much else to it. I for one think anyone else with the same approach will be fine job wise, but more importantly won't have any sleepless nights or stressed filled days.

If you're set on Big Law, which I understand some people are, yeah, maybe you should be worried and ultra competitive...but then again the vast majority of lawyers do not work at Big Law, so it seems silly to think of that avenue as the only route a lawyer can take.

Obviously I'm slightly peeved and am operating with a chip on my shoulder, but I feel more "scammed" by some of the stuff I've read here than I do from paying 40k a year to my law school, for sure.


what are your monthly loan payments

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby Pokemon » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:02 pm

I wouldn't listen to this thread.

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby johnpierce14 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:03 pm

I'm not really sure what is meant by shitlaw but the money is pretty good and the latest I've heard of an attorney leave the office is 7:30. I think it's pretty great, and you're just a silly cunt.

I'm paying about 1200 a month in student loans.

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby FeelTheHeat » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:05 pm

what does the phrase "anecdotal evidence" mean to you

please also define "special snowflake"

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby kaiser » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:07 pm

Pokemon wrote:I wouldn't listen to this thread.


Or at least 95% of the stuff in it

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Postby rad lulz » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:10 pm

Ludovico Technique wrote:
johnpierce14 wrote:There was nothing special about me..3.2 GPA, no connections, but had a good, earnest desire to become a lawyer and made a good impression at a small law firm and just received a full time offer before the holiday.

I'm not sure how the others in my class faired...I don't have any meaningful relationships with anyone in my class mostly because they remind me of the people on these forums. Some were certainly stand up guys, but I just went to class, learned, and got out. Not much else to it. I for one think anyone else with the same approach will be fine job wise, but more importantly won't have any sleepless nights or stressed filled days.

If you're set on Big Law, which I understand some people are, yeah, maybe you should be worried and ultra competitive...but then again the vast majority of lawyers do not work at Big Law, so it seems silly to think of that avenue as the only route a lawyer can take.

Obviously I'm slightly peeved and am operating with a chip on my shoulder, but I feel more "scammed" by some of the stuff I've read here than I do from paying 40k a year to my law school, for sure.


Congrats on getting lucky. You sound like a total asshole

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby johnpierce14 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:14 pm

Anecdotal evidence is exactly what threads like these need.

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby Agoraphobia » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:15 pm

Wow, you are really edgy and daring to use the c-word on an internet forum. Twice! Can I have your number?

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby Ludo! » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:20 pm

johnpierce14 wrote:Anecdotal evidence is exactly what threads like these need.


Why?

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:23 pm

For small firms paying less than a McDonald's manager makes that may be true, but at big firms that pay enough to make law school worth it half the recruiters I've spoken with told me their firms had hard cutoffs, and the other half basically said that below a certain point it's not impossible, but you really aren't in contention

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby FeelTheHeat » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:26 pm

johnpierce14 wrote:Anecdotal evidence is exactly what threads like these need.


Anecdotal evidence is the truth tls deserves, but not the one it needs right now

so we will hunt it, because it can take it

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Re: I wouldn't listen to 95 percent of the stuff here

Postby Agoraphobia » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:27 pm

I'm still laughing at this one: "don't believe anything you believe." That plus all the "cunt"-ing is pure gold. I think this poster is rather charming, in an irritating teenager sort of way.




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