Hughes Hubbard v. Fried Frank Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:25 am

Hughes Hubbard v. Fried Frank. I know the rankings but any personal insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys!

Edit: Please comment if you vote, e.g., why you chose one over the other. Thanks again!

IAFG · Post by **IAFG** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:32 am

I love you for adding a "doesn't make a difference" button. I don't know enough about HH to weigh in, but more people need to do this.

monkey85 · Post by **monkey85** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:59 am

Neither stand out in my mind. Both pay market salary. Go with the good ol "fit test."

Good luck and have fun this summer!

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:27 pm

Thanks to those who are commenting! For those who picked one firm over the other, is there any particular reason?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:12 pm

I only had experiences with one of the two firms, but I'd be curious to hear about OP's decision when s/he makes it.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:29 pm

My understanding is HH is superior in lit, but I might be wrong. They do much better in rankings for job satisfaction and other areas related to that as well, especially in AmLaw (read: diversity, women).

Also, the career center information on Above the Law paints a pretty sharp difference between the two. I would ignore the Vault rankings on this one. At least for me HH would be the clear choice. (Full disclosure I only did screeners with both firms that I have already been dinged at.)

HH: http://abovethelaw.com/law-firms/hughes ... -reed-llp/

FF: http://abovethelaw.com/law-firms/fried-frank/

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:52 am

I voted for HH for exactly those reasons - it has an awesome reputation for associate satisfaction, diversity, and a lot of other QOL-related-variables. I worked at another firm with a similar profile (V50-V100, very high AmLaw scores, high QOL scores), loved it, and didn't see any of the unhappiness and misery that people usually report at big law firms. It's also a better litigation shop than FF, but I'd pick it even if it weren't.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:03 am

OP here, thank you all very much for the help.

kwais · Post by **kwais** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:19 am

I think this one really comes down to what part of Manhattan you'd like to work in

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:13 pm

One other thing to consider: FF is in good shape financially. Perhaps a better way to put it is that FF is very financially conservative. They might not have the best PPP, but they have been very careful to not over-hire so that they won't have to no-offer or do stealth layoffs. I have no idea whether that also applies to HHR.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:38 pm

Anonymous User wrote:One other thing to consider: FF is in good shape financially. Perhaps a better way to put it is that FF is very financially conservative. They might not have the best PPP, but they have been very careful to not over-hire so that they won't have to no-offer or do stealth layoffs. I have no idea whether that also applies to HHR.

Thank you for the insight. I think the same can be said for HH. They tend to be very financially conservative from what I understand.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:40 pm

Almost picked HH myself, met multiple partners in Lit, they are lovely. They have a personality though, so definitely make sure you feel like you're a good fit there.

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