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3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby kalvano » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:31 am

Can we consolidate all 3L mailing questions, stories, and whatnot into this thread? Too many random threads floating around to be helpful.


Instead of just mass-mailing firms, I've been emailing the recruiting contacts and asking if their firm will be considering 3L's for permanent employment in 2013, and if so, when is a good time to submit information. I've gotten a response from every firm so far, some saying they do, some saying they don't. I feel like that is more helpful than just sending a resume and cover letter with a hope and a prayer.

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:43 am

kalvano wrote:Can we consolidate all 3L mailing questions, stories, and whatnot into this thread? Too many random threads floating around to be helpful.


Instead of just mass-mailing firms, I've been emailing the recruiting contacts and asking if their firm will be considering 3L's for permanent employment in 2013, and if so, when is a good time to submit information. I've gotten a response from every firm so far, some saying they do, some saying they don't. I feel like that is more helpful than just sending a resume and cover letter with a hope and a prayer.


I'm working corporate in-house with the IP department, and I haven't gotten around to mass mailing yet, but my manager sent out some unsolicited recommendations of me, and I've gotten one interview so far, which I think is going to be like a callback style interview, since I've encountered the IP chair from that firm a few times before. Here's to hoping I don't need to mass mail.

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby SMU2013 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:52 am

kalvano wrote:Can we consolidate all 3L mailing questions, stories, and whatnot into this thread? Too many random threads floating around to be helpful.


Instead of just mass-mailing firms, I've been emailing the recruiting contacts and asking if their firm will be considering 3L's for permanent employment in 2013, and if so, when is a good time to submit information. I've gotten a response from every firm so far, some saying they do, some saying they don't. I feel like that is more helpful than just sending a resume and cover letter with a hope and a prayer.


I'm putting together cover letters this weekend and hopefully sending out applications Monday.

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby kalvano » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:56 am

I've had a few Dallas-area firms tell me not to apply yet, that they do consider 3L's but to wait until December / January when they have a better idea of their hiring needs.

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:28 am

So far, I have mass mail targeted CA firms in SF and LA. I have an interview in SF next week, another in LA the following week, and an informational lunch interview in LA with a different firm. I also managed to get some lunch dates with some of the partners of one of the firms that I am interviewing with at a job fair in Chicago in a few weeks.

I am totally overwhelmed with everything going on this summer, and I feel like this summer is one huge blur. It is so hard to find time to mass mail firms!!!

Here's to hoping we get something....soon!! Good luck my fellow rising 3Ls!! We can do this!

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Postby Dr. Review » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:49 pm

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I'm working corporate in-house with the IP department, and I haven't gotten around to mass mailing yet, but my manager sent out some unsolicited recommendations of me, and I've gotten one interview so far, which I think is going to be like a callback style interview, since I've encountered the IP chair from that firm a few times before. Here's to hoping I don't need to mass mail.


Anon from above here. The language in the email from the partner was this:
"Would you be available next week or the following week to meet with me and other members of our IP group and IP litigation group?"

Does this sound more like a screener or a callback type deal to you?

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:50 pm

This thread, while anecdotal, has me ready to start sending stuff out tonight. My CSO told me to wait until late August. But I feel like a) apparently some people are sending stuff already and some firms might be looking at 3Ls now b) if it's too early, they'll probably tell you to check back later unless you are an auto-trash. HERE WE GO!

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:52 pm

Glad someone started this thread.

FWIW, to me it seems too early to mass mail for first-year associate positions. I (also rising 3L) was thinking of waiting until at least August.

That being said, I guess it couldn't hurt to do as one person recommended: email and ask whether the firm is considering apps from 3Ls.

I haven't really heard a consensus on when the best time to start is.

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby barestin » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:10 pm

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:23 pm

FWIW, started mass mailing last week and I've heard back from two firms with interviews scheduled for the first week of August. These two interviews plus some job fairs gives me 7 interviews in the next 3 weeks.

Let's do this c/o 2013!

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:FWIW, started mass mailing last week and I've heard back from two firms with interviews scheduled for the first week of August. These two interviews plus some job fairs gives me 7 interviews in the next 3 weeks.

Let's do this c/o 2013!


Do you mind sharing the market?

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:FWIW, started mass mailing last week and I've heard back from two firms with interviews scheduled for the first week of August. These two interviews plus some job fairs gives me 7 interviews in the next 3 weeks.

Let's do this c/o 2013!


Impressive! School/grades?

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:38 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:FWIW, started mass mailing last week and I've heard back from two firms with interviews scheduled for the first week of August. These two interviews plus some job fairs gives me 7 interviews in the next 3 weeks.

Let's do this c/o 2013!


Impressive! School/grades?


Top 15% at a T2 that places well in the region.

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:FWIW, started mass mailing last week and I've heard back from two firms with interviews scheduled for the first week of August. These two interviews plus some job fairs gives me 7 interviews in the next 3 weeks.

Let's do this c/o 2013!


Do you mind sharing the market?


Mid Atlantic

Edit: Sorry, I realize this isn't very helpful. When I say Mid Atlantic, I mean New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Delaware.

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:11 am

Re. interviews in early August: I'm really (pleasantly) surprised to hear this. I did not think that firms would even be responding to employment inquiries from rising 3Ls at this point.

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:33 pm

What are people writing in their emails when they send their mass mails? What about in the subject line?

I was thinking of:

I am a rising-third year law student at the University of ____ and I am applying for an entry level position with (FIRM)'s ____ (city) office. I have attached my cover letter, resume, and transcript. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you for your time.

We only send (1) cover letter (2) transcript (3) resume, correct? Should these be one document or three?

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What are people writing in their emails when they send their mass mails? What about in the subject line?

I was thinking of:

I am a rising-third year law student at the University of ____ and I am applying for an entry level position with (FIRM)'s ____ (city) office. I have attached my cover letter, resume, and transcript. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you for your time.

We only send (1) cover letter (2) transcript (3) resume, correct? Should these be one document or three?


Exactly what I did.

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:17 pm

I'm pasting my cover letter in the body of the email and attaching resume and transcript pdfs.

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:06 pm

What about subject line for a 3l?

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby beach_terror » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:45 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:FWIW, started mass mailing last week and I've heard back from two firms with interviews scheduled for the first week of August. These two interviews plus some job fairs gives me 7 interviews in the next 3 weeks.

Let's do this c/o 2013!


Impressive! School/grades?


Top 15% at a T2 that places well in the region.

Considering these are my exact stats, I'm suddenly pretty hopeful. If you wouldn't mind PMing me, I'd love to chat about this (also at a T2 in the mid atlantic).

On my front, I've compiled a list of high school and college alumni to send out feelers to. Any suggestions on how to go about this? Just ask to meet up and talk about their practice area and firm? I'm mainly looking at boutiques as of now (10-20 person firms with very specific practices, i.e 7/11 bankruptcy, comm lit, etc.), should I look at larger firms too?

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:47 am

Anonymous User wrote:What about subject line for a 3l?


I take whatever first-year associates are described as on the firm website, then add "2013" in front and "application" at the back. For example, "2013 First-year Associate application" or "2013 Entry-level Associate application."

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby kalvano » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:13 pm

I've just been putting "2013 Hiring" or something like that.

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:25 pm

Can anyone shed any light on what a 3L Summer Associate position is? Venable has one, for example. Do you not take the bar the summer after graduation? How does this work?

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Re: 3L Mass Mailing Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Can anyone shed any light on what a 3L Summer Associate position is? Venable has one, for example. Do you not take the bar the summer after graduation? How does this work?


I think they're for clerks and students pursuing combined degrees, like JD/MBAs.




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