based on NALP, around top 3% GW Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:41 am

Based on NALP graduation grades, probably around top 3% at GW (but it is GW, so that could be off by any amount - no exacts). If bidding DC, should any firms be off the table as a waste of a bid? (Skadden, Latham, Arnold & Porter, Williams & Connolly, WilmerHale)?

Thanks in advance!

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:16 pm

interested in this as well, though with worse grades. The formula posted on TLS indicates i'm in the top 8%

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:interested in this as well, though with worse grades. The formula posted on TLS indicates i'm in the top 8%

OP here. Congratulations to the above poster! Any GW 3L's or grads want to weigh in on this one? "Colorful Flier" Development Office is not too helpful on this subject.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 5:14 pm

GW recent grad here:

Anonymous User wrote:"Colorful Flier" Development Office is not too helpful on this subject.

They won't help you. My section's counselor was the most inept woman I've ever met. During OCI, she gave out circa 1960s hiring advice and was more concerned about the placement of my bullet points on my resume than giving me substantive help.

Top 3% at GW (if you can accurately assume that) is a good place to be, especially if you're bidding for mostly DC/Philly offices. Obviously, you still want to throw in some "safeties," but the firms you've named are certainly not "out of reach."

Anonymous User wrote:interested in this as well, though with worse grades. The formula posted on TLS indicates i'm in the top 8%

What formula is this? It no longer matters to me, but I'm curious to see how accurate it is.

Big Shrimpin · Post by **Big Shrimpin** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:37 pm

Recent grad here. If you don't ooze burgers in your screeners, you will land a great biglaw gig.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:13 am

Big Shrimpin wrote:Recent grad here. If you don't ooze burgers in your screeners, you will land a great biglaw gig. Toss W&C out, though.

OP Here: Ooze burgers... I google'd it and ended up watching "a double jucy lucy ooze cheese"... It is worth three seconds of your youtube life.

Sad to toss W&C out though. You can mass mail any other market if only the DC office of a firm is listed at FRP and they don't have "no multiple interviews" marked, right?

Big Shrimpin · Post by **Big Shrimpin** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:42 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Big Shrimpin wrote:Recent grad here. If you don't ooze burgers in your screeners, you will land a great biglaw gig. Toss W&C out, though.
OP Here: Ooze burgers... I google'd it and ended up watching "a double jucy lucy ooze cheese"... It is worth three seconds of your youtube life.

Sad to toss W&C out though. You can mass mail any other market if only the DC office of a firm is listed at FRP and they don't have "no multiple interviews" marked, right?

It's a slang term, referring to people who are extremely introverted and/or nearly unable to carry a normal, non-awkward conversation. Basically, your prototypical law student. What I'm saying is that if you're totally awkward and unable to engage in normal conversations with people you don't know, it won't be your grades that prevent you from racking-up offers.

Congrats on the grades, though, that's quite an accomplishment.

IAFG · Post by **IAFG** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:52 am

I am confused by this thread. Shouldn't someone at the tippy top of their class feel comfortable bidding on whoever shows up at their OCI?

Big Shrimpin · Post by **Big Shrimpin** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:58 am

johndhi · Post by **johndhi** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:18 pm

I don't agree that W&C is out - tough spot for anyone to get, sure, but he's one of the folks in the running. Pretty sure they have a number of GWers in their ranks, although maybe these are post-clerkship hires.

zuluwarriors · Post by **zuluwarriors** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:48 am

Nope. In good shape for Latham/Arnold/Wilmer/Skadden (top 10% is typically good enough to get a callback at all those places assuming you interview well/click with interviewer). I'd definitely bid on W&C and maybe even direct mail a few places that don't do OCI, or at least haven't in the past (Cravath, Quinn, DPW, Simpson etc.).

fwiw, there is at least one summer this year at W&C from GW.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:24 am

zuluwarriors wrote:I'd definitely bid on W&C and maybe even direct mail a few places that don't do OCI, or at least haven't in the past (Cravath, Quinn, DPW, Simpson etc.).

would this advice be applicable to someone in the top 8%?

Anonymous User wrote:What formula is this? It no longer matters to me, but I'm curious to see how accurate it is.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=157992

zuluwarriors · Post by **zuluwarriors** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:05 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
zuluwarriors wrote:I'd definitely bid on W&C and maybe even direct mail a few places that don't do OCI, or at least haven't in the past (Cravath, Quinn, DPW, Simpson etc.).
would this advice be applicable to someone in the top 8%?

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=157992

Still may be worth a shot direct mailing places, but I wouldn't use too many OCI bids on W&C and other firms that have historically been extremely picky in terms of grades at GW (e.g., Covington, GDC, Ropes, maybe a few others). If you looked at this year's graduating 3Ls, pretty much everyone who summered at those firms were summa (top 3%).

monkey85 · Post by **monkey85** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:28 pm

zuluwarriors wrote:Still may be worth a shot direct mailing places, but I wouldn't use too many OCI bids on W&C and other firms that have historically been extremely picky in terms of grades at GW (e.g., Covington, GDC, Ropes, maybe a few others). If you looked at this year's graduating 3Ls, pretty much everyone who summered at those firms were summa (top 3%).

I agree with Big Shrimpin, just no Ooze Burgers and your Top 3% grades should be good for most anything - even all the picky firms.

zuluwarriors · Post by **zuluwarriors** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:01 pm

monkey85 wrote:
zuluwarriors wrote:Still may be worth a shot direct mailing places, but I wouldn't use too many OCI bids on W&C and other firms that have historically been extremely picky in terms of grades at GW (e.g., Covington, GDC, Ropes, maybe a few others). If you looked at this year's graduating 3Ls, pretty much everyone who summered at those firms were summa (top 3%).
I agree with Big Shrimpin, just no Ooze Burgers and your Top 3% grades should be good for most anything - even all the picky firms.

Just to clarify, the part about not using too many bids on places like Covington applies to top 8%. Top 3% should be applying to pretty much everything (even firms that don't do OCI).

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:04 am

top 8% here,

Are places like Sidley/Jones/Latham/Arnold/Wilmer/Skadden/Akin/WSGR out as well (or just as picky as W&C/Covington/Ropes)?

Should I be focusing on firms in the V50-100 range? Reed/Venable/Nixon/Patton/Wiley/H&W/Vinson

I've been looking around tls, nalp class sizes, cutoffs, and whatnot, but haven't really found any concrete info.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:23 pm

PM me - I can answer more specifically.

zuluwarriors · Post by **zuluwarriors** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:PM me - I can answer more specifically.

oops didn't mean to make that anon.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:33 pm

Where are you getting these numbers? By that, I mean 8%. Thanks.

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