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yeah i figured that. i was just trying to figure out if these numbers correspond somewhat to the go-to schools list. I mean trying to somehow get excited for 1% growth but I don't think hardly any of it came from fresh grads. If someone thinks otherwise I'd be pretty happy to hear about it haha.
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At least 1,000 of that looks like pure international acquisition. I suspect the remainder of it is purchases like Arnold & Porter scooping up that CA-based firm. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a net negative of individual associates in years 1-3 after accounting for all possible changes (promotions to year 4, exits, new hires, laterals).FlanAl wrote:yeah i figured that. i was just trying to figure out if these numbers correspond somewhat to the go-to schools list. I mean trying to somehow get excited for 1% growth but I don't think hardly any of it came from fresh grads. If someone thinks otherwise I'd be pretty happy to hear about it haha.
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I get that it's just size, I just feel like every firm on there up to this point has been fairly reputable and sophisticated. Maybe I've just overlooked the shitlaw mills on the list before or didn't recognize them since they tend to be fairly local.rad lulz wrote:Bro it's just the size, being reputable has nothing to do with it.duckmoney wrote:The NLJ 250 is just usually known for putting reputable firms on its list.
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This just made researching where to mass-mail a whole lot easier.
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There are some firms that are effectively large firms in my market that aren't on here. Don't know what yours is like.HeavenWood wrote:This just made researching where to mass-mail a whole lot easier.
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+1rad lulz wrote:There are some firms that are effectively large firms in my market that aren't on here. Don't know what yours is like.HeavenWood wrote:This just made researching where to mass-mail a whole lot easier.
NALP Directory is still the #1 source for mass mailing
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It covers most of the principle ones. Missing a couple of the smaller market-paying mid-laws, along with a few boutiques.rad lulz wrote:There are some firms that are effectively large firms in my market that aren't on here. Don't know what yours is like.HeavenWood wrote:This just made researching where to mass-mail a whole lot easier.
I'm officially addicted to this site. Jones Day pays $145k in Pittsburgh? Hiyooooo.....shoeshine wrote: NALP Directory is still the #1 source for mass mailing
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True, but that information isn't always out there. I think a go-to 350 is going to show more differentiation in schools 15-30, reflecting which schools are getting people into "local biglaw" and which schools just faceplant.rad lulz wrote:Since the smallest firm is 116 people, it will roughly correspond to the law school reporting category of "Firms off 100+"StarLightSpectre wrote:I wonder if there will be a "NLJ 350 Go to school list) that would be interesting to see.
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Will this tell us something we can't learn from comparing the NLJ250 to firms to 100+?IAFG wrote:True, but that information isn't always out there. I think a go-to 350 is going to show more differentiation in schools 15-30, reflecting which schools are getting people into "local biglaw" and which schools just faceplant.rad lulz wrote:Since the smallest firm is 116 people, it will roughly correspond to the law school reporting category of "Firms off 100+"StarLightSpectre wrote:I wonder if there will be a "NLJ 350 Go to school list) that would be interesting to see.
It def. will matter for schools that don't make statistics accessible (UT, though we have them), and Woostle (which has not poasted them).
In any case, I'm definitely in favor of moar datas.
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Plus, like, I'm just lazy. I wanna see it compiled by NLJ. Though kudos to Rayiner's tireless obsessing.rad lulz wrote:Will this tell us something we can't learn from comparing the NLJ250 to firms to 100+?IAFG wrote:True, but that information isn't always out there. I think a go-to 350 is going to show more differentiation in schools 15-30, reflecting which schools are getting people into "local biglaw" and which schools just faceplant.rad lulz wrote:Since the smallest firm is 116 people, it will roughly correspond to the law school reporting category of "Firms off 100+"StarLightSpectre wrote:I wonder if there will be a "NLJ 350 Go to school list) that would be interesting to see.
It def. will matter for schools that don't make statistics accessible (UT, though we have them), and Woostle (which has not poasted them).
In any case, I'm definitely in favor of moar datas.
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This. I can get behind this.IAFG wrote: Plus, like, I'm just lazy.
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That's what he said?rad lulz wrote: This. I can get behind this.
**That was stupid. I am going to bed.
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Apparently Charlie Crist works for them.rad lulz wrote:I'm not. They're massive. It's a shitty mill though.
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Lol. Probably makes a fuckton of money though.run26.2 wrote:Apparently Charlie Crist works for them.rad lulz wrote:I'm not. They're massive. It's a shitty mill though.
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Morgan and Morgan hiring Charlie Crist is like the poor man's version of Ballantine Bushby hiring Thomas Dewey.
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i'd like to hear more speculation about the firms that lost a lot of lawyers.
room for concern?
room for concern?
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As we learned in 2010, Christ is TTT.run26.2 wrote:Apparently Charlie Crist works for them.rad lulz wrote:I'm not. They're massive. It's a shitty mill though.
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HahahahahahahaDesert Fox wrote:I'm baffled that more Shit Law firms merge into mega firms. Be the walmart of slip and falls.
Get all those old ladies lined up. Do they have a greater? Maybe a former client?
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Same. Though most of them are now listed on this, a few somewhat larger ones are still out there where I'm at.rad lulz wrote:There are some firms that are effectively large firms in my market that aren't on here. Don't know what yours is like.HeavenWood wrote:This just made researching where to mass-mail a whole lot easier.
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Yes, it's helpful, but NALP (and I know I'm the only one who thinks so, but Leadership Directories) do fill in a lot of blanks. For example:TTRansfer wrote:Same. Though most of them are now listed on this, a few somewhat larger ones are still out there where I'm at.rad lulz wrote:There are some firms that are effectively large firms in my market that aren't on here. Don't know what yours is like.HeavenWood wrote:This just made researching where to mass-mail a whole lot easier.
Cohen & Wolf, 50 lawyers, 2 summers from CT, 90k starting, NALP
Shulman, Rogers, 92 lawyers, 1-2 summers, unknown starting, non-NALP, LD
Semmes, Bowen & Semmes, 73 lawyers, 3-4 summers, unknown starting, non-NALP, LD
motley rice, 60 lawyers, 5-7 summers from NC/SC, 70-80k starting, non-NALP, LD
Pullman & Comley, 82 lawyers, 2-3 summers from national, 105k starting, NALP
Whiteman Osterman & Hanna, 74 lawyers, 2 summers, 82k starting, NALP
Hahn & Hessen, 53 lawyers, 2-4 summers, 145k starting, NALP
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This was in my original post. Can anyone shed some light on it?Anonymous User wrote:i'd like to hear more speculation about the firms that lost a lot of lawyers.
room for concern?
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Subtle anti-religion trolling?duckmoney wrote:As we learned in 2010, Christ is TTT.run26.2 wrote:Apparently Charlie Crist works for them.rad lulz wrote:I'm not. They're massive. It's a shitty mill though.
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I wasn't, but autocorrect might be.jeeptiger09 wrote:Subtle anti-religion trolling?duckmoney wrote: As we learned in 2010, Christ is TTT.
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Enjoy hell you heathen.duckmoney wrote:I wasn't, but autocorrect might be.jeeptiger09 wrote:Subtle anti-religion trolling?duckmoney wrote: As we learned in 2010, Christ is TTT.
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