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Mass Mailings & Finding Non-NLJ Firms - Resume Launchpad

Post by kalvano » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:07 am

Per request, here is a quick tutorial on http://www.resumelaunchpad.com. I used it when I did my mass mailings, it's easy to use and far, far, far better than Martindale or Lexis or any of those sites. NALP is better for NALP firms, but we all know that a lot of firms don't participate in NALP, and finding them can be a pain in the ass, particularly on the Martindale site. I haven't seen searching that bad since I used Internet America on dial-up in 1998.

So, anyway, on to business:

First off, I am not affiliated in any way, shape, or form with the site. I stumbled across it in doing my mailings, and it was incredibly helpful. If it doesn't work perfectly for you, sorry, I can't do anything about it.


What is Resume Launchpad, you may ask? It's 2 things: a law firm locator, and a sort of resume mail-merger, specifically targeted towards lawyers. Fair warning, I only used the search function, which is free of charge. The second function, the mail merger, I did not do, as I had my own way of doing things. But, for about $0.25 an email, it will customize a cover letter and mail it to the right person at a firm. You upload a form cover letter, select the firms, and it does it's Internet mojo and mails off everything to the correct person with a personalized cover letter.

I do not trust those type of things, and thus I did not use it, so I cannot tell you if it works or not. Call me old-fashioned, but I wasn't willing to trust something as important as a job email to this type of thing. However, I'm sure one of you fine people will end up doing so, and can report back on how it works. They have pricing estimates on their site, and according to them applying to the large law firms in metro New York (Long Island, Newark, and NYC) will run you about $35, and the D.C. area (D.C., Alexandria, Bethesda) will run about $30. If it works, not too shabby for the pricing.

So, if you're not using it for sending resumes, then what the hell good is it? NALP only lists NALP firms (imagine that). If you have been rejected from all the NALP firms, that often leaves you with mass mailing midsize and small firms. Unfortunately, there is no centralized directory like NALP for those places. This is where Resume Launchpad comes in. You can use it to search within a radius of a given zip code, and it returns all, or at least most, of the law firms there. You can sort by size, which they class as large firms and small/mid firms. You can also search for alumni in the same manner. From there, you can start building a list.


First off, log in...it uses your Google account, and you'll get this screen --


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We'll go with "large firms" first. You'll get a screen prompting you to save the campaign name (assuming you will be using it to send resumes and cover letters) --




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I'm going to go with Dallas, since I live near there ---




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But, I'm not moving to Houston or San Antonio. I'm only interested in Dallas, Fort Worth, and the surrounding area --


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You'll notice the firm list to the right got a lot more manageable, and a lot more on point with where I would rather be. Also, notice the majority of these are NALP firms, but there are a few that are not; you'll also notice it missed some NALP firms...big shocker, it's not perfect --


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So, being a 2L at SMU, I know that McGlinchey Stafford did not come to our OCI, so I might want to email them and see what's shaking. So I click on their name, and up pops an information box; notice it gives the website, who to contact, and salary info, as well as what the firm does and a link to recent cases --

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I don't know how accurate that salary info is. From the research I've done, I believe it to be fairly reliable, but take it with a grain of salt. I'm just going to assume, if you are using this, you want to email as many firms as possible. So, note all the check marks, and then click "save and continue" --

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And it will take you here --

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I did not use this, so this is as far as I go with that part. Hopefully, someone braver than I will pick up the slack.






But, I'm assuming at this point that you have exhausted all the larger firms and are now frustratingly trying to sift through all the smaller ones to see who might be interested in you. Here is where this site really shines. Let's go back to the beginning, but this time, instead of choosing "Larger Firms", we are going to choose "Small & Medium Firms" (note the search options I've circled) --

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So let's say I am very interested in only looking at criminal firms within 10 miles of where I live --


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That's all the firms their database has as working in criminal law near me. But, a 2-person firm isn't likely to hire anyone for the summer (maybe, maybe not--you should check anyway), so I only want to target larger firms --

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2 firms seems a lot more workable than 40, but it's always nice to have the option of emailing 40 places. If you want even more firms, you can always leave your search parameters more open, like not specifying a practice area. Now, here's where it gets less useful. A lot of the smaller firms don't have designated HR people, so there is no one to email. Thus, you'll just get an error message and it won't give you any more information. But, for a free service, I would say at that point it has given you a ton of info in a much more easy to use manner than Martindale or the other search sites. I found it incredibly useful when I was looking, and I hope it benefits some of you.

If you have any questions, I will do my best to answer.
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Post by dailygrind » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:31 am

Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Just tossing ideas out there, but something to the effect of "How to find non-NLJ firms" in the title might make this a more looked at resource.

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Post by kjadkins » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:19 pm

thanks for posting this :)

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Post by chem » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:28 pm

Getting some good tags lately. tagged

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Post by Ozymandias » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:13 pm

Thanks for this!

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Post by Asleep » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:21 pm

nice, thank you

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Post by fatduck » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:26 pm

you might want to edit out your gmail address

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Post by kalvano » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:40 pm

It's a junk address. Anyone who has ever emailed me on here has it.

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Post by fatduck » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:42 pm

kalvano wrote:It's a junk address. Anyone who has ever emailed me on here has it.
when i saw the first pic i was going to post and out you as englishbob's secret alt

and then i was disappointed

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Post by kalvano » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:49 pm

fatduck wrote:
kalvano wrote:It's a junk address. Anyone who has ever emailed me on here has it.
when i saw the first pic i was going to post and out you as englishbob's secret alt

and then i was disappointed
I can pretend, if it floats your boat.

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Post by arhmcpo » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:49 pm

Awesome post, op, thank you

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Post by 69Coronet » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:52 pm

Awesome post, kalvano.
I had noticed you mention it in another thread, but I hadn't had a chance to check it out yet, though I did add it to my favorites.
Thanks again.

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Post by jkpolk » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:35 pm

arhmcpo wrote:Awesome post, op, thank you

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Post by IAFG » Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:37 pm

Thanks for sharing. There are SO many books, websites, scams, etc out there, it's really helpful to have a review and screenshots for this. When I originally saw it I assumed they'd only have NALP firms and that it would be a waste.

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Post by NYC Law » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:36 am

Thanks for this, looks awesome. Has anyone tried the mail merge yet? I'm very curious to try it out for myself when the time comes.

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Post by YankeeFan2 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:41 am

69Coronet wrote:Awesome post, kalvano.
I had noticed you mention it in another thread, but I hadn't had a chance to check it out yet, though I did add it to my favorites.
Thanks again.

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Post by LawIdiot86 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:50 am

Looks like an awesome program. Only word of caution is to check firm names because some of them are slightly off. Like, Sidley for Sidley Austin, Baker Daniels for Faegre Baker Daniels, Edwards Angell Palmer & Dodge for Edwards Wildman Palmer, and Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker for Paul Hastings. And I know Arent Fox does not accept email resumes at the addresses given in the program, so those would also be a waste of a quarter.

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Post by Eco » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:47 am

Thanks! So much more helpful than martindale in finding firms! You're awesome!

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Post by clint4law » Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:57 am

Sweet

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Post by Perseus_I » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:46 pm

My entire San Francisco mail campaign with this tool disappeared, and when I try to start a new one the screen for San Francisco firms is blank. Only for San Francisco. Other cities still have firms listed. Did they get wise to the fact that I was using their tool as a research tool and not paying them?

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Post by shock259 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:57 am

Has anyone used the actual mailing portion of this service? I wish I could sample it or something before it fires away.

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shock259 wrote:Has anyone used the actual mailing portion of this service? I wish I could sample it or something before it fires away.
I've used it. Not very happy with it TBH. While you *feel* good about sending in a ton of applications, I got bounce backs, and emails from people that had nothing to do with the hiring process. Also it had me email a european office of a firm...Not a fan.

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shock259 wrote:Has anyone used the actual mailing portion of this service? I wish I could sample it or something before it fires away.
I've used it. Not very happy with it TBH. While you *feel* good about sending in a ton of applications, I got bounce backs, and emails from people that had nothing to do with the hiring process. Also it had me email a european office of a firm...Not a fan.
I almost mailed a bunch of people from Dewey (alumni) and a bunch of people who no longer worked at the firm. I checked each firm, but they wouldn't let me change the contact info there. They need to update it or allow edits. You can't edit the contact information, and some of it is from 2009 or even older. That's just ridiculous IMO.

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