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Job Prospects State by State

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby NYC Law » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:09 am

So N.Y. is the shittiest state right now and D.C. should be a mecca eh?

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby A'nold » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:10 am

mmribail wrote:http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/27/the-lawyer-surplus-state-by-state/


Scary to say the least.

Not when you don't give a crap about working in those oversaturated states. Those stats were actually very encouraging. Way better than I thought.

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby IAFG » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:13 am

NYC Law wrote:So N.Y. is the shittiest state right now and D.C. should be a mecca eh?

Except no one takes the DC bar because you can waive in... :?

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby IAFG » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:17 am

IAFG wrote:
NYC Law wrote:So N.Y. is the shittiest state right now and D.C. should be a mecca eh?

Except no one takes the DC bar because you can waive in... :?

And don't all the WI kids not have to take the bar? nm found it in the article

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby bk1 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:24 am

Why are we bringing up an article that was already discussed months ago and deemed retarded?

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby Grizz » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:25 am

We crapped all over this study back in June.

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby A'nold » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:25 am

Arizona, Alaska, Idaho and Utah are pretty strong markets for new attorneys it seems.

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby bk1 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:27 am

Grizz wrote:We crapped all over this study back in June.


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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby IAFG » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:38 am

A'nold wrote:Arizona, Alaska, Idaho and Utah are pretty strong markets for new attorneys it seems.

Alaska had 41 openings in the whole state...

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby Grizz » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:42 am

bk1 wrote:
Grizz wrote:We crapped all over this study back in June.


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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby A'nold » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:18 am

IAFG wrote:
A'nold wrote:Arizona, Alaska, Idaho and Utah are pretty strong markets for new attorneys it seems.

Alaska had 41 openings in the whole state...

Well I am also going on some personal knowledge in this regard since I know a couple of students at my school from Alaska that are heading back home to work. But still, not a big surplus. :wink:

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby IAFG » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:19 am

A'nold wrote:
IAFG wrote:
A'nold wrote:Arizona, Alaska, Idaho and Utah are pretty strong markets for new attorneys it seems.

Alaska had 41 openings in the whole state...

Well I am also going on some personal knowledge in this regard since I know a couple of students at my school from Alaska that are heading back home to work. But still, not a big surplus. :wink:

The real winner here, looking at saturation and pay, is clearly Delaware.

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby A'nold » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:22 am

IAFG wrote:
A'nold wrote:
IAFG wrote:
A'nold wrote:Arizona, Alaska, Idaho and Utah are pretty strong markets for new attorneys it seems.

Alaska had 41 openings in the whole state...

Well I am also going on some personal knowledge in this regard since I know a couple of students at my school from Alaska that are heading back home to work. But still, not a big surplus. :wink:

The real winner here, looking at saturation and pay, is clearly Delaware.

Yeah, it looks decent.

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby IAFG » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:27 am

DE's saturation is also somewhat deceptive because you have to have a 5 month internship under a DE licensed lawyer to be admitted to the bar there, so not many people are going to come into the state, pass the bar, then sit around looking for a gig, because anyone who makes a 5 month investment is probably a future employer.

That probably applies to Alaska to an extent as well though: people go to NYC, take the bar and hope for the best. No one is going to be doing that in Alaska, especially since there's no law school.

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby romothesavior » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:31 am

Grizz wrote:We crapped all over this study back in June.

This.

The methodology of this study may be the worst I've ever seen. It is insanely flawed. And we discussed this thing a long time ago.

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby IAFG » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:32 am

romothesavior wrote:
Grizz wrote:We crapped all over this study back in June.

This.

The methodology of this study may be the worst I've ever seen. It is insanely flawed. And we discussed this thing a long time ago.

well i didn't get to whine about it yet so zip it :( :cry:

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby A'nold » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:33 am

IAFG wrote:
romothesavior wrote:
Grizz wrote:We crapped all over this study back in June.

This.

The methodology of this study may be the worst I've ever seen. It is insanely flawed. And we discussed this thing a long time ago.

well i didn't get to whine about it yet so zip it :( :cry:

Yeah Romo. :evil: ...... :)

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby A'nold » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:35 am

IAFG wrote:DE's saturation is also somewhat deceptive because you have to have a 5 month internship under a DE licensed lawyer to be admitted to the bar there, so not many people are going to come into the state, pass the bar, then sit around looking for a gig, because anyone who makes a 5 month investment is probably a future employer.

That probably applies to Alaska to an extent as well though: people go to NYC, take the bar and hope for the best. No one is going to be doing that in Alaska, especially since there's no law school.

Yeah, that's kind of the sticky part, isn't it? I guess it might work with a state like Idaho or Utah though, if you have connections or go to a school looked favorably upon in those states.

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby newyorker88 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:37 am

NY Times? I'm surprised they would publish such a flawed study. Their surplus assessment is based on bar passage rates. That makes no sense.

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby MrKappus » Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:39 am

Buncha talentless lawyers law students talking about study design. Nothing to see (or learn) here.

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby mmribail » Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:06 am

Sorry, this is the first time I seen this article. However, wasn't 2012 suppose to be better...?

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby romothesavior » Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:38 am

MrKappus wrote:Buncha talentless lawyers law students talking about study design. Nothing to see (or learn) here.

I know almost nothing about stats or studies (took a Poly Sci Research Class five years ago that I remember nothing from), but the study is so flawed on its face that I feel confident ripping it to shreds.

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby sunynp » Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:29 am

Wasn't this study the one that said their weren't many lawyers in dc because few people take the bar there? But almost everyone in dc takes their local bar, so that stat is worthless. If you think there are too few lawyers on dc, I guess go ahead and believe the study.

Also I don't know where they get their numbers for jobs available, I think that there about 5000 jobs in NYC alone but they have about 2000 for the whole state.

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Re: Job Prospects State by State

Postby omninode » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:32 am

sunynp wrote:Wasn't this study the one that said their weren't many lawyers in dc because few people take the bar there? But almost everyone in dc takes their local bar, so that stat is worthless. If you think there are too few lawyers on dc, I guess go ahead and believe the study.

Also I don't know where they get their numbers for jobs available, I think that there about 5000 jobs in NYC alone but they have about 2000 for the whole state.


The whole "study" is worthless. Don't waste your time analyzing it.




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