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Davis Polk v Paul Weiss v Skadden
I'm CCN/URM/New York native. I can go back and visit each pretty easily, but I don't think I need to. All three had nice, energetic people. Now I'm interested in firm characteristics other than "feel."
I think I'm leaning PW, but I'm not leaning very hard. I'm interested in litigation, and want options other than just finance projects.
What do you think?
I think I'm leaning PW, but I'm not leaning very hard. I'm interested in litigation, and want options other than just finance projects.
What do you think?
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Re: Davis Polk v Paul Weiss v Skadden
Things to consider:
-PW and Skadden both have huge litigation departments. Davis Polk's is respectably sized and equally well respected, but not as massive. This can cut either way - bigger departments may have more going on, but it might be easier to get lost/harder to form relationships.
-All three are strong in white collar. PW probably has a bit more of a skew towards securities litigation than the other two (they are primary litigation counsel for several banks).
-Leverage. PW is high, not sure about DPW and Skadden, but you can find this easily on NALP.
-Work assignment process - not sure how these three firms function (could turn out they're all the same), but consider whether you're prefer free market, rotational, or being assigned to a group of partners).
-PW and Skadden both have huge litigation departments. Davis Polk's is respectably sized and equally well respected, but not as massive. This can cut either way - bigger departments may have more going on, but it might be easier to get lost/harder to form relationships.
-All three are strong in white collar. PW probably has a bit more of a skew towards securities litigation than the other two (they are primary litigation counsel for several banks).
-Leverage. PW is high, not sure about DPW and Skadden, but you can find this easily on NALP.
-Work assignment process - not sure how these three firms function (could turn out they're all the same), but consider whether you're prefer free market, rotational, or being assigned to a group of partners).
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Re: Davis Polk v Paul Weiss v Skadden
Interested in this, as well. My sense is that DP will have significantly fewer options in terms of types of litigation.
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Re: Davis Polk v Paul Weiss v Skadden
Any specific reasons for DP?
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Re: Davis Polk v Paul Weiss v Skadden
This really depends on what kind of work you want to do. Paul Weiss is very litigation heavy, while I got the sense that Davis Polk is much more corporate/transactional. Don't know much about Skadden though. Also I've been told that DPW is much more white-shoe/conservative in terms of culture.
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Re: Davis Polk v Paul Weiss v Skadden
OP here. I'm def pursuing litigation. Beyond that, I'm not sure. I don't want to be stuck doing only finance related litigation, though.
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Re: Davis Polk v Paul Weiss v Skadden
If you don't want finance related litigation, get out of NYC. You're going to get a ton of that work at any of these firms.
Davis Polk's litigation department is smaller than the other two's, but that doesn't necessarily mean you have fewer opportunities there. It's substantially less leveraged than Paul Weiss's, (6:1 versus 7:1), but significantly more leveraged than Skadden's (4.5:1).
The litigation department at Davis Polk is in no way secondary to its corporate department. It has its own clients and does its own work. Indeed, the litigation and corporate sides of the firm don't even really interact that much.
Davis Polk's litigation department is smaller than the other two's, but that doesn't necessarily mean you have fewer opportunities there. It's substantially less leveraged than Paul Weiss's, (6:1 versus 7:1), but significantly more leveraged than Skadden's (4.5:1).
The litigation department at Davis Polk is in no way secondary to its corporate department. It has its own clients and does its own work. Indeed, the litigation and corporate sides of the firm don't even really interact that much.
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Re: Davis Polk v Paul Weiss v Skadden
OP here. Thanks for your comments. They are helpful.
I would be happy to do a majority finance related work, I just want to do SOME other stuff. PW has strong IP, entertainment, media, labor, general commercial, etc. practices, as well as white collar, anti trust, M&A, etc. practices. DP seems to be almost totally the latter group. Am I wrong?
I would be happy to do a majority finance related work, I just want to do SOME other stuff. PW has strong IP, entertainment, media, labor, general commercial, etc. practices, as well as white collar, anti trust, M&A, etc. practices. DP seems to be almost totally the latter group. Am I wrong?
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Re: Davis Polk v Paul Weiss v Skadden
Could you please explain what the bolded means? (Haven't seen this elsewhere & not sure what you are referring to. Partner/associate ratio?)Anonymous User wrote:If you don't want finance related litigation, get out of NYC. You're going to get a ton of that work at any of these firms.
Davis Polk's litigation department is smaller than the other two's, but that doesn't necessarily mean you have fewer opportunities there. It's substantially less leveraged than Paul Weiss's, (6:1 versus 7:1), but significantly more leveraged than Skadden's (4.5:1).
The litigation department at Davis Polk is in no way secondary to its corporate department. It has its own clients and does its own work. Indeed, the litigation and corporate sides of the firm don't even really interact that much.
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Re: Davis Polk v Paul Weiss v Skadden
Yes, that's what he is referring to.smokyroom26 wrote:Could you please explain what the bolded means? (Haven't seen this elsewhere & not sure what you are referring to. Partner/associate ratio?)Anonymous User wrote:If you don't want finance related litigation, get out of NYC. You're going to get a ton of that work at any of these firms.
Davis Polk's litigation department is smaller than the other two's, but that doesn't necessarily mean you have fewer opportunities there. It's substantially less leveraged than Paul Weiss's, (6:1 versus 7:1), but significantly more leveraged than Skadden's (4.5:1).
The litigation department at Davis Polk is in no way secondary to its corporate department. It has its own clients and does its own work. Indeed, the litigation and corporate sides of the firm don't even really interact that much.
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Re: Davis Polk v Paul Weiss v Skadden
It was pointed out previously that PW's actual leverage numbers on NALP are probably skewed by their inordinate number of staff attorneys. Realistically it's probably something more like ~ 5 associates per partner. FWIW.
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Re: Davis Polk v Paul Weiss v Skadden
I'm curious about this poll, minus Skadden. I'm also just interested in Lit and have people pushing me toward PW. Why is DP winning here?
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Re: Davis Polk v Paul Weiss v Skadden
DPW is .944 prestige points better. I think that says it all.Anonymous User wrote:I'm curious about this poll, minus Skadden. I'm also just interested in Lit and have people pushing me toward PW. Why is DP winning here?
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