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Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:55 am

I know that firms' CB:Offer ratios vary from office to office and year to year. But are there general trends about any particular firms? I've read that SullCrom generally has about 90%. Any others?

How about DPW?

Thanks.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby 5ky » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:13 am

Anonymous User wrote:I know that firms' CB:Offer ratios vary from office to office and year to year. But are there general trends about any particular firms? I've read that SullCrom generally has about 90%. Any others?

How about DPW?

Thanks.



You'll get an offer or a ding when the hiring committee meets, which could be anytime from 1 day to 2 weeks afterward. It's very random and depends on how busy the people you meet with + the committee itself are. Historically Davis Polk is amongst the most selective large law firms at the callback stage, post-callback offer rates of 20-30% aren't unheard of.


See: http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=163236

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:26 am

Something over 90% of the people at my school pass the bar on the first try. It does not mean they don't have to try very hard to pass it.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby 5ky » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:33 am

Anonymous User wrote:Something over 90% of the people at my school pass the bar on the first try. It does not mean they don't have to try very hard to pass it.


Thanks brother, very helpful.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:35 am

does anyone know offer ratios for Hughes Hubbard?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:48 am

Does anyone know anything about White & Case's cb/offer ratio?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby imchuckbass58 » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:13 am

Anonymous User wrote:does anyone know offer ratios for Hughes Hubbard?


Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know anything about White & Case's cb/offer ratio?


Both are roughly 50%

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:21 am

imchuckbass58 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:does anyone know offer ratios for Hughes Hubbard?


Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know anything about White & Case's cb/offer ratio?


Both are roughly 50%


Thanks

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:39 am

nb: data is historical and subject to change

S&C: 90%+
Most large firms: between ~50% and ~70%
DPW: 20-30%:
Some small firms: as low as 5-10%

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:22 pm

Any info on Cleary?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:28 pm

fried frank?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

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does anyone know about stroock?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:42 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any info on Cleary?


Anonymous User wrote:fried frank?


Both about 50%

Anonymous User wrote:does anyone know about stroock?


About 66%

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:43 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Any info on Cleary?


Anonymous User wrote:fried frank?


Both about 50%

Anonymous User wrote:does anyone know about stroock?


About 66%

what are u basing these numbers on?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:50 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Any info on Cleary?


Anonymous User wrote:fried frank?


Both about 50%

Anonymous User wrote:does anyone know about stroock?


About 66%

what are u basing these numbers on?


Probably detailed statistics from Columbia, which are to my knowledge the only good info out there.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:51 pm

Anyone know about KL Gates?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:12 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Any info on Cleary?


Anonymous User wrote:fried frank?


Both about 50%

Anonymous User wrote:does anyone know about stroock?


About 66%

what are u basing these numbers on?


Probably detailed statistics from Columbia, which are to my knowledge the only good info out there.


So do these numbers only apply to Columbia students?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:16 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So do these numbers only apply to Columbia students?


It is safe to assume that firms treat candidates who have already received callbacks as a relatively homogeneous group. Columbia is the most robust data set but hardly the only one available, and all of the spreadsheets, anecdotes, and tabulations to which I have access suggest that the numbers quoted in this thread are broadly accurate for all firms and all schools at which they hire from in significant numbers.

If you get a CB from a mailed application at a firm and you're the only one from your school, then the "CB:Offer ratio" is kind of a meaningless concept anyway, you're just in a different category.
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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:17 pm

Debevoise?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:18 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:So do these numbers only apply to Columbia students?


It is safe to assume that firms treat candidates who have already received callbacks as a relatively homogeneous group. Columbia is the most robust data set but hardly the only one available, and all of the spreadsheets, anecdotes, and tabulations to which I have access suggest that the numbers quoted in this thread are broadly accurate for all firms and all schools at which they hire from in significant numbers.

If you get a CB from a mailed application at a firm and you're the only one from your school, then the "CB:Offer ratio" is kind of a meaningless concept anyway, you're just in a different category.


Thanks! This is great information.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:18 pm

Bingham (NY office)

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:27 pm

I know it's tempting to fall into worrying about stuff like this, but you'd be wise to just do your best in each interview and never feel safe. Totally anecdotal evidence here, but when I did OCI in 2009 I got rejected after a callback from S&C but got offers from DPW and other more selective (at the callback stage) firms. It's not like law school admissions where you can be an 'autoadmit,' you need to hustle every time.

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:05 pm

any info on sidley out there?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:55 pm

Wilmer (DC)?

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Re: Relative CB:Offer Ratios of Firms

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:22 pm

covington?




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