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Big Law Market with the Least Competition/Work Load
What big law market involves the least amount of work and still pays 145k+?
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light workload, low competition, and high pay. Sorry dude but I really doubt that exists
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You just want to have your cake and eat it too, huh? 

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one of the main reasons biglaw pays 145k is because you have to work hella hours. If it was just a typical 9-5 why would you expect to make to same ammount as those working 60 hour weeks
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This is like a fat kid asking which NCAA Division 1 cross-country team has the most obese athletes.TheThreader wrote:What big law market involves the least amount of work and still pays 145k+?
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oops, didn't mean for that to be anonAnonymous User wrote:This is like a fat kid asking which NCAA Division 1 cross-country team has the most obese athletes.TheThreader wrote:What big law market involves the least amount of work and still pays 145k+?
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you are retarded.
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You should like an entitled bratTheThreader wrote:What big law market involves the least amount of work and still pays 145k+?
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Camden, N.J. might be a good fit for you.
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Your practice area and the partners you work for will be far more important than what market you are in.
All biglaw is going to be competitive. You are DOA in smaller markets if you don't have ties to the region.
All biglaw is going to be competitive. You are DOA in smaller markets if you don't have ties to the region.
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Asked an attorney about biglaw hours and she kind of looked at me puzzled when I told her that she must've worked crazy hours. FWIW she was at Orrick in SF for a few years doing transactional. She told me that almost everyone worked 9-5 with only a few times she had to work 10+ hours a day preparing for a big deal or whatever. So I'd imagine not all big firms do crazy hours.
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Back in the big law heyday you could bill 1600 hours/year, and stay for 2-3 years before being shown the door. These days, if you do that one year you're gone. If you're going into biglaw, prepare to work LOTS of hours.adonai wrote:FWIW she was at Orrick in SF for a few years doing transactional.
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Maybe she'd have been there a few more years if she'd have made her hours.adonai wrote:Asked an attorney about biglaw hours and she kind of looked at me puzzled when I told her that she must've worked crazy hours. FWIW she was at Orrick in SF for a few years doing transactional. She told me that almost everyone worked 9-5 with only a few times she had to work 10+ hours a day preparing for a big deal or whatever. So I'd imagine not all big firms do crazy hours.
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TBF, I met a guy in biglaw in chicago who said his vault firm was regular billable was 1900 hours and that was the norm.
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With the non billable hours they do that still works out to about 10 hours a dayPatriot1208 wrote:TBF, I met a guy in biglaw in chicago who said his vault firm was regular billable was 1900 hours and that was the norm.
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BOOMRenzo wrote:Maybe she'd have been there a few more years if she'd have made her hours.adonai wrote:Asked an attorney about biglaw hours and she kind of looked at me puzzled when I told her that she must've worked crazy hours. FWIW she was at Orrick in SF for a few years doing transactional. She told me that almost everyone worked 9-5 with only a few times she had to work 10+ hours a day preparing for a big deal or whatever. So I'd imagine not all big firms do crazy hours.
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Didn't know that, but said attorney made it seem she left on her own. But then again, she seemed very mum and disinterested in her work at the firm, so she might have just done the bare minimum and jumped ship before she could get the axe.Sup Kid wrote:Back in the big law heyday you could bill 1600 hours/year, and stay for 2-3 years before being shown the door. These days, if you do that one year you're gone. If you're going into biglaw, prepare to work LOTS of hours.adonai wrote:FWIW she was at Orrick in SF for a few years doing transactional.
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She was either exaggerating or she was coming in way under hours. No biglaw firm is going to let you bill 1600 hours a year for very long.She told me that almost everyone worked 9-5 with only a few times she had to work 10+ hours a day preparing for a big deal or whatever.
My firm is known as a lifestyle firm, and standard work hours are 9:30-7:30.
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the breakeven point on 1st to 3rd year associates for most big law firms is around 1750-1850 from what one biglaw partner told me.
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This is harsh! Perhaps it's not realistic, but who DOESN'T want to make a lot of money at a job that allows them to have a life?rad law wrote:You should like an entitled bratTheThreader wrote:What big law market involves the least amount of work and still pays 145k+?
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Many wealthy people work 60 hours/week and still have lives. They just have to make some sacrifices.
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Well compared to the horror stories you hear on TLS, 60 hours isn't that bad- perhaps that's what OP is asking aboutwildcats2008 wrote:Many wealthy people work 60 hours/week and still have lives. They just have to make some sacrifices.
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"Well compared to the horror stories you hear on TLS, 60 hours isn't that bad- perhaps that's what OP is asking about"
Fair enough. What other jobs pay inexperienced 26 year-olds that much money? Investment banking. Hedge funds maybe. Not really anything else. The way I look at is that most people work really hard as it is, so if you're going to put in all those hours, you should at least get paid well. The op should look into dental school where they work 4-5 days a week and in some states, don't even clean teeth.
Fair enough. What other jobs pay inexperienced 26 year-olds that much money? Investment banking. Hedge funds maybe. Not really anything else. The way I look at is that most people work really hard as it is, so if you're going to put in all those hours, you should at least get paid well. The op should look into dental school where they work 4-5 days a week and in some states, don't even clean teeth.
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really? Have you ever worked a 60 hour work week its fucking rough. I work 50-55 hour weeks sometimes and by the end of the week I'm always wipedarism87 wrote:Well compared to the horror stories you hear on TLS, 60 hours isn't that bad- perhaps that's what OP is asking aboutwildcats2008 wrote:Many wealthy people work 60 hours/week and still have lives. They just have to make some sacrifices.
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"really? Have you ever worked a 60 hour work week its fucking rough. I work 50-55 hour weeks sometimes and by the end of the week I'm always wiped"
of course it is. the reality of the working world sucks which is why it always amazes me when people are so desperate to get out of college and start earning some $.
of course it is. the reality of the working world sucks which is why it always amazes me when people are so desperate to get out of college and start earning some $.
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