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Re: Where I got no offered

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Anonymous User wrote:K&L Gates no-offered in multiple offices, and I know from my office it wasn't performance issues of the one of the summers that was an issue. I got an offer, but I was pretty mad on behalf of the no-offered summers.
I was worried about this from them. They did the same thing with the c/o 2014.

Do you have any idea how the Pittsburgh office fared? I have friends there and that is worrying.
Sorry, unfortunately I don't have any information about that office, I was referring to NC and TX. Maybe since it's the flagship office they fared a little better.
How did K&L Gates NY do?

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:09 pm

Saw on Vault that Bracewell threw out a bunch of no-offers. Unless that rate is wrong/misleading, any info as to why? I think that's likely just their NY office but unsure

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:14 pm

I know a few of the Bracewell NY SA's pretty well. Can't imagine there'd be fit or work issues. Most of the fit issues leading to no offers are just reflections of how bad and discriminatory law firms are at recruiting, and how it becomes an acting showcase more than anything else with firms choosing people who can best play their stereotypical fit for 20 minutes. Then it becomes evident some people are not what they seemed to be in 20 rehearsed minutes. It's very easy to hide being an asshole or being psycho for an interview with the same q's you've gotten 100 times before. Don't know about my friends' acting skills, but know that they'd be a pleasure to work with. From what I know about Bracewell, I doubt they will ever recover from pre-2008 so this is probably the new reality from them. They're very dependent on big business.

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Re: Where I got no offered

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Anonymous User wrote:
cdelgado wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:K&L Gates no-offered in multiple offices, and I know from my office it wasn't performance issues of the one of the summers that was an issue. I got an offer, but I was pretty mad on behalf of the no-offered summers.
I was worried about this from them. They did the same thing with the c/o 2014.

Do you have any idea how the Pittsburgh office fared? I have friends there and that is worrying.
Sorry, unfortunately I don't have any information about that office, I was referring to NC and TX. Maybe since it's the flagship office they fared a little better.
How did K&L Gates NY do?
This is hearsay, but I was told there are 2 confirmed no-offers so far, with possibly 2 more to come

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by romanticegotist » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:22 pm

Things are finally turning the corner in this thread, but I petition to change the name to something more in line with the goal of the thread, like "Out the firms that no-offer because you like to help others sometimes" or something

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:25 pm

Any word on K&L Chi?

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by DELG » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:38 pm

romanticegotist wrote:Things are finally turning the corner in this thread, but I petition to change the name to something more in line with the goal of the thread, like "Out the firms that no-offer because you like to help others sometimes" or something
Oh god shut up

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Re: Where I got no offered

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cdelgado wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:K&L Gates no-offered in multiple offices, and I know from my office it wasn't performance issues of the one of the summers that was an issue. I got an offer, but I was pretty mad on behalf of the no-offered summers.
I was worried about this from them. They did the same thing with the c/o 2014.

Do you have any idea how the Pittsburgh office fared? I have friends there and that is worrying.
Sorry, unfortunately I don't have any information about that office, I was referring to NC and TX. Maybe since it's the flagship office they fared a little better.
From the 23 SAs at the Pittsburgh office I've heard of 3 people getting offers so far and 4 people getting no-offered. None of those that didn't get offers had any immediately apparent red flags from what I saw.

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Re: Where I got no offered

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
cdelgado wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:K&L Gates no-offered in multiple offices, and I know from my office it wasn't performance issues of the one of the summers that was an issue. I got an offer, but I was pretty mad on behalf of the no-offered summers.
I was worried about this from them. They did the same thing with the c/o 2014.

Do you have any idea how the Pittsburgh office fared? I have friends there and that is worrying.
Sorry, unfortunately I don't have any information about that office, I was referring to NC and TX. Maybe since it's the flagship office they fared a little better.
From the 23 SAs at the Pittsburgh office I've heard of 3 people getting offers so far and 4 people getting no-offered. None of those that didn't get offers had any immediately apparent red flags from what I saw.
Holy shit

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Re: Where I got no offered

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From the 23 SAs at the Pittsburgh office I've heard of 3 people getting offers so far and 4 people getting no-offered. None of those that didn't get offers had any immediately apparent red flags from what I saw.
Holy shit
This office was my top choice going into OCI, not so much anymore....

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Re: Where I got no offered

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:11 am

The K&L Gates no-offer news is terrible. They seem to not care about their offer rates.

FWIW, if any 2Ls are reading this thread and considering K&L, I will say that their Pittsburgh office no-offered 3/13 last year. The reason given was "serious work product issues." Also, a significant number of the 10/13 declined to accept the offer. I do not remember the exact numbers, but that in and of itself is surprising.

Part of me wonders if it is because K&L's litigation department is slowing down while corporate is getting hot, and a majority of summers decided to go the litigation route.

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Re: Where I got no offered

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K&L Gates NY 3+ No offers

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by pertristis » Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:The K&L Gates no-offer news is terrible. They seem to not care about their offer rates.

FWIW, if any 2Ls are reading this thread and considering K&L, I will say that their Pittsburgh office no-offered 3/13 last year. The reason given was "serious work product issues." Also, a significant number of the 10/13 declined to accept the offer. I do not remember the exact numbers, but that in and of itself is surprising.

Part of me wonders if it is because K&L's litigation department is slowing down while corporate is getting hot, and a majority of summers decided to go the litigation route.
One of the 10* has a clerkship in their hometown, which isn't close to Pittsburgh. At least for this person, I don't think K&L had much to do with it.

*Edit: I think I was told the person was one of the 10 who got offers. I could be mistaken, though.

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Re: Where I got no offered

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Anonymous User wrote:Any word on K&L Chi?

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by Druid » Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:26 pm

Holy shit K&L Gates what the fuck.

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by sprezz » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:00 pm

649am anon - edit that quote structure so cdelgado isn't falsely attributed the no offer intel re: pittsburgh office? should've been attributed to another anon.

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by mephistopheles » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:01 pm

sprezz wrote:649am anon - edit that quote structure so cdelgado isn't falsely attributed the no offer intel re: pittsburgh office? should've been attributed to another anon.
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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by sprezz » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:03 pm

i mean, yeah it's a really minor thing but given the ridiculous ways anon gets used on this damn forum might as well get it right when it's used for an ostensibly appopriate reason.

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by lacrossebrother » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:24 pm

Why are you guys reporting 2012 no offers?

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by shifty_eyed » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:08 pm

lacrossebrother wrote:Why are you guys reporting 2012 no offers?
Because IMO it's good to know. If I end up with multiple offers, I would take the firm that has a track record of 100% offers over any other firm, because like most TLSers I am aspie and not good at law-ing.

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:16 pm

Please keep updating this thread. K&L Gates was near the top of my list and has immediately dropped to the bottom because of the information reported here. Keep it coming.

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by romanticegotist » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:33 pm

Any info on K&L Houston? New office so i'd imagine they aren't starting off w/ no-offering

Edit: lol never mind I was thinking of K&E all these firms sound the same.
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Re: Where I got no offered

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Anonymous User wrote:Please keep updating this thread. K&L Gates was near the top of my list and has immediately dropped to the bottom because of the information reported here. Keep it coming.
As someone who was a SA with K&L Gates a few years ago, I can say with some confidence their offer % for their southern offices (including tx) has hovered somewhere around 66% over the past few years. If you have other options, go with them. My SA class knew at least 25% were not getting offers (partner on the hiring committee told a couple of us over lunch one day). It was an incredibly stressful summer. Would not recommend.

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Re: Where I got no offered

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:27 pm

While on the subject, any word on k&l gates' DC office?

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