BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL CURVE

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BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL CURVE

Postby bewarned » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:36 pm

Current BLS student. Be warned- BLS recently changed the curve DRAMATICALLY. It is currently one of the worst curves in New York (harsher than Fordham, St. John's, Cardozo, and Hofstra). Median GPA for 1L class is below a 3.0. Administration made this change without telling any of the students and waited until 1L grades were released to tell them.

Seriously, be warned. This place is an absolute disaster. And I wasn't even affected by the curve, but I have tons of friends who were. It's horrible.

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Re: BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL CURVE

Postby QContinuum » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:54 pm

Thanks for chiming in with this warning. Timely to any 0Ls currently considering which law school to matriculate at!

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Re: BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL CURVE

Postby Nuts2u » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:18 pm

bewarned wrote:Current BLS student. Be warned- BLS recently changed the curve DRAMATICALLY. It is currently one of the worst curves in New York (harsher than Fordham, St. John's, Cardozo, and Hofstra). Median GPA for 1L class is below a 3.0. Administration made this change without telling any of the students and waited until 1L grades were released to tell them.

Seriously, be warned. This place is an absolute disaster. And I wasn't even affected by the curve, but I have tons of friends who were. It's horrible.


Current BLS 1L. I’d like to point out that the curve was changed over the summer, before we began our classes. It’s no harsher than a lot of other comparable schools. It doesn’t affect class rank or scholarship renewal, and their policy for that is more liberal than most schools, you just have to be in the top %85. Career services and the faculty don’t seem to be a mess to me, but I’ve definitely made sure to ask for guidance when looking for my summer placement, and maybe I’ve been lucky.

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Re: BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL CURVE

Postby QContinuum » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:32 pm

Nuts2u wrote:
bewarned wrote:Current BLS student. Be warned- BLS recently changed the curve DRAMATICALLY. It is currently one of the worst curves in New York (harsher than Fordham, St. John's, Cardozo, and Hofstra). Median GPA for 1L class is below a 3.0. Administration made this change without telling any of the students and waited until 1L grades were released to tell them.

Seriously, be warned. This place is an absolute disaster. And I wasn't even affected by the curve, but I have tons of friends who were. It's horrible.


Current BLS 1L. I’d like to point out that the curve was changed over the summer, before we began our classes.

Even though I'm sure very few students consider a law school's curve when choosing where to matriculate (I think I was a relatively rare exception in actually considering this when I was a 0L), it's still kind of shitty to change the curve after most students are already deposited and locked in. Why couldn't they delay implementing the new curve until the following year's entering class? I don't get the urgency requiring an immediate change.

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Re: BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL CURVE

Postby objctnyrhnr » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:28 am

This seems like such an odd move for a school that should be trying to HELP its students get jobs. Sure, the top 1/3 can say they’re in the top 1/3 (which could theoretically trump the gpa for many employers), but what about everybody else? There are a number of good firms and clerkships that have strict GPA cutoffs independent of school (for better or worse).

Accordingly, I am wondering what the motivation to do this could possibly be. Any argument in its favor (“we don’t want to get a rep as a school that has grade inflation”) seems to be dramatically outweighed, at least in practice—something the dean’s office might not know much about—by the potential harm that giving your slightly sub median student a sub-3.0 gpa.

Thoughts?

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Re: BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL CURVE

Postby jsnow212 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:46 pm

Literally the only reason a school would do this is because it's getting ticked off that its best are transferring out.

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Re: BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL CURVE

Postby srg1027 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:59 pm

I am a 0L and am confused by this curve talk. What exactly is the curve and what are it's effects????

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Re: BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL CURVE

Postby objctnyrhnr » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:09 pm

srg1027 wrote:I am a 0L and am confused by this curve talk. What exactly is the curve and what are it's effects????


Before you go to law school, you’re probably really going to want to nail down that its vs it’s distinction.

In a given class, maybe 90-95% of students will work extremely hard—at a level which (in a vacuum) would have probably gotten good marks in most classes in undergrad.

Problem is that only 10% of them will be in the top 10%.

Typically, law school grades correlate with how you did relative to the other people in your class, regardless of how objectively good or bad your work is.

So some schools might give top 5% exam an A, next 15% an A-, next 30% a b+, etc etc.

That’s a curve.

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Re: BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL CURVE

Postby srg1027 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:15 pm

I get that, but what is OP referring to regarding BLS switching their curve??

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Re: BROOKLYN LAW SCHOOL CURVE

Postby objctnyrhnr » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:29 pm

srg1027 wrote:I get that, but what is OP referring to regarding BLS switching their curve??


Some schools put their median grade at a B and some put it at a B+ and most do something in between.

Sounds like Brooklyn did the equivalent of changing its median from a B + to a B.

So a student is still 50%ile but now that student has a 3.0.

I can’t comprehend how this doesn’t crush the bottom two thirds of your class (ie people who can’t say top third)



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