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Post by LurkerShirker » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:10 am

All the official 509s are now up on the ABA website.

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Post by RCSOB657 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:13 am

LurkerShirker wrote:All the official 509s are now up on the ABA website.
I assume these are all new, or did they just all managed to get posted finally?

Could you link please? I'm unable to find, and am not an ABA member.

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Post by pylon » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:19 am

RCSOB657 wrote:
LurkerShirker wrote:All the official 509s are now up on the ABA website.
I assume these are all new, or did they just all managed to get posted finally?

Could you link please? I'm unable to find, and am not an ABA member.
This might be it: http://www.abarequireddisclosures.org/

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Post by RCSOB657 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:26 am

thx :)

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Post by chuckbass » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:57 am

Looking at the 509, can you update WUSTL's 25th GPA to 3.20? Looks like I was slightly off in my info.

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Post by LurkerShirker » Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:34 pm

Interesting facts from the 509s:

Arizona State -- took 66 transfers this year ( and 143 ILs) - so roughly 32% of their 2L class is transfers.

44 of the 66 transfers were from Arizona Summit

The transfers had a median GPA of 3.23 during their 1L year

Arizona Summit's median LSAT is 144

Arizona State's median LSAT is 162.

So basically, Arizona Summit is becoming a farm team for Arizona State -- where low LSAT kids go until the ABA stops counting them.

An Arizona State degree is essentially meaningless.

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Post by blueberrycrumble » Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:35 pm

Dirigo does a much better job of following the thread. Shall I just delete my spreadsheet and you can post yours to the OP?

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Post by Rigo » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:30 pm

Took a couple hours to update the spreadsheet, because real life Tuesdays are boring af.
Updated the top 145 schools with the c/o 2017 509's. I know for a fact they are all correct.
However, the few times I checked, I did notice errors for the c/o 2016 data. I don't have the patience to go through and update old data that isn't pertinent to 0L's making decisions. Just wanted to let you all know so you don't swear by data that may be wrong. Next year's spreadsheet will be all correct if we transfer the correct c/o 2017 data over and diligently go through correcting the c/o data when 2018 509's are released.

I haven't done the unranked ones yet.

Biggest TTT shifts were Brooklyn (as discussed) from 159 median to 156 median & Rutgers-Camden from 158 to 155. Both raised class sizes too. What toilets.

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Post by Rigo » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:34 pm

blueberrycrumble wrote:Dirigo does a much better job of following the thread. Shall I just delete my spreadsheet and you can post yours to the OP?
I went through and updated mine and will complete it later tonight hopefully. I'll also update it when the new USNWR rankings come out and for next year's c/o 2018 data since I'll be around TLS and super interested in the medians I will be applying based off of.
I'm more than happy to take take over if you'd rather me do it.

ETA: Done.
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Post by bound » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:51 pm

LurkerShirker wrote:
An Arizona State degree is essentially meaningless.
As a uofa grad, I could have told you that.

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Post by whitespider » Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:04 pm

Dirigo wrote:Took a couple hours to update the spreadsheet, because real life Tuesdays are boring af.
Updated the top 145 schools with the c/o 2017 509's. I know for a fact they are all correct.
However, the few times I checked, I did notice errors for the c/o 2016 data. I don't have the patience to go through and update old data that isn't pertinent to 0L's making decisions. Just wanted to let you all know so you don't swear by data that may be wrong. Next year's spreadsheet will be all correct if we transfer the correct c/o 2017 data over and diligently go through correcting the c/o data when 2018 509's are released.

I haven't done the unranked ones yet.

Biggest TTT shifts were Brooklyn (as discussed) from 159 median to 156 median & Rutgers-Camden from 158 to 155. Both raised class sizes too. What toilets.
Damn Rigo, look at you go. Leave me all the unranked ones to finish off. I've got the day off work tomorrow and I find those the most entertaining.

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Post by chuckbass » Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:09 pm

Aww enjoy all this time while you can little 0Ls <3

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scottidsntknow wrote:Aww enjoy all this time while you can little 0Ls <3
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Post by Rigo » Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:15 pm

whitespider wrote: Damn Rigo, look at you go. Leave me all the unranked ones to finish off. I've got the day off work tomorrow and I find those the most entertaining.
You can have 'em! Just make sure to check them all even if the data is already filled in. Sometimes the class size was a little different from what was initially reported, and that in turn threw off the GPA numbers a bit.

I had the spreadsheet open on my laptop and the ABA site pylon posted on my ipad. It helped for efficient transfer. Hopefully you won't need to keep flipping back and forth between windows.

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Post by eriedoctrine » Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:20 pm

Someone transferred from Notre Dame to American? Da fk?

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Post by whitespider » Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:22 pm

Sorting through the unranked schools allows me to find things like this...

The 2014 numbers for my favorite ABA Accredited school:

Pontifical Catholic of PR

131/134/138 (-1/-1/-1)

148 Enrolled (-46)

32% Bar Passage Rate

82% Of Students Paying Sticker

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Post by RCSOB657 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:45 pm

eriedoctrine wrote:Someone transferred from Notre Dame to American? Da fk?
Could have been 1 or more of 4 dozen reasons.

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Re: C/O 2017 Median LSAT/GPA/Class Size (New Stats!!!)

Post by Mack.Hambleton » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:46 pm

RCSOB657 wrote:
eriedoctrine wrote:Someone transferred from Notre Dame to American? Da fk?
Could have been 1 or more of 4 dozen reasons.
Good post

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Post by Rigo » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:46 pm

RCSOB657 wrote:
eriedoctrine wrote:Someone transferred from Notre Dame to American? Da fk?
Could have been 1 or more of 4 dozen reasons.
Profound.

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Post by chuckbass » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:46 pm

Loled in the library whoops

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Post by bobbybird » Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:17 am

whitespider wrote:Sorting through the unranked schools allows me to find things like this...

The 2014 numbers for my favorite ABA Accredited school:

Pontifical Catholic of PR

131/134/138 (-1/-1/-1)

148 Enrolled (-46)

32% Bar Passage Rate

82% Of Students Paying Sticker
25% of the class with a 131 or worse... that's a 2.5 percentile score. You could literally christmas-tree you way into a score higher than a 131.

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Post by Kimikho » Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:18 am

bobbybird wrote:
whitespider wrote:Sorting through the unranked schools allows me to find things like this...

The 2014 numbers for my favorite ABA Accredited school:

Pontifical Catholic of PR

131/134/138 (-1/-1/-1)

148 Enrolled (-46)

32% Bar Passage Rate

82% Of Students Paying Sticker
25% of the class with a 131 or worse... that's a 2.5 percentile score. You could literally christmas-tree you way into a score higher than a 131.
Come on team seriously I'm pretty sure they teach in spanish there.

(Not saying anything ab the bar passage rate though)

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Post by pylon » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:12 am

bobbybird wrote: 25% of the class with a 131 or worse... that's a 2.5 percentile score. You could literally christmas-tree you way into a score higher than a 131.
Yikes... that's unreal.

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Post by Kimikho » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:23 am

so can we start the rankings competition yet

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Post by chuckbass » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:24 am

Kimikho wrote:so can we start the rankings competition yet
Make it

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