Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage? Forum
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Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
Is taking the December LSAT going to put me at a disadvantage? That would mean applying to schools around New Years. Thoughts, anecdotes welcome.
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
Yes, because you won't be submitting a complete app until January. Schools will have been accepting people since December--a few even since November.
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
But apps have fallen so far you're probably still fine. Almost certainly still fine, except maybe at Stanford and Harvard.
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
I thought most December people go complete in December. Ah well. With the decline in apps recently maybe it won't matter as much?rinkrat19 wrote:Yes, because you won't be submitting a complete app until January. Schools will have been accepting people since December--a few even since November.
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
Does it matter that I'm a sub 3 splitter? [would only be applying if I hit my 168 goal on the test]Cicero76 wrote:But apps have fallen so far you're probably still fine. Almost certainly still fine, except maybe at Stanford and Harvard.
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
All things being equal, yes, there's a significant disadvantage. With a higher LSAT score, maybe 2 points or more, probably not.
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
Not sure what you mean with your latter sentence.superdingle2000 wrote:All things being equal, yes, there's a significant disadvantage. With a higher LSAT score, maybe 2 points or more, probably not.
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
He means that earlier is better than later in general, but a higher LSAT score is better than a lower LSAT score, regardless of when it is submitted.David_Hume14 wrote:Not sure what you mean with your latter sentence.superdingle2000 wrote:All things being equal, yes, there's a significant disadvantage. With a higher LSAT score, maybe 2 points or more, probably not.
For example: a 172 on the December LSAT is better than a 170 submitted on September 1st.
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OK, got it.Humbert Humbert wrote:He means that earlier is better than later in general, but a higher LSAT score is better than a lower LSAT score, regardless of when it is submitted.David_Hume14 wrote:Not sure what you mean with your latter sentence.superdingle2000 wrote:All things being equal, yes, there's a significant disadvantage. With a higher LSAT score, maybe 2 points or more, probably not.
For example: a 172 on the December LSAT is better than a 170 submitted on September 1st.
Also, do I need to have my lsac $ paid before my profs can submit their letters? or only before lsac will send that stuff off to schools?
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
eh, i wouldn't say "SIGNIFICANT" but a slight advantagesuperdingle2000 wrote:All things being equal, yes, there's a significant disadvantage. With a higher LSAT score, maybe 2 points or more, probably not.
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
Dr. Dre wrote:eh, i wouldn't say "SIGNIFICANT" but a slight advantagesuperdingle2000 wrote:All things being equal, yes, there's a significant disadvantage. With a higher LSAT score, maybe 2 points or more, probably not.
I'm basing that off of elterrible's analysis. Of course it has its limitations since it's based on LSN, but I think it's probably accurate. Here's a the analysis for Penn in case you haven't seen the blog yet:
http://admissionsbythenumbers.blogspot. ... el-in.html
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Bro, I think his blog is saying a 1 point increase in LSAT is more valuable than submitting app 1 month earlysuperdingle2000 wrote:Dr. Dre wrote:eh, i wouldn't say "SIGNIFICANT" but a slight advantagesuperdingle2000 wrote:All things being equal, yes, there's a significant disadvantage. With a higher LSAT score, maybe 2 points or more, probably not.
I'm basing that off of elterrible's analysis. Of course it has its limitations since it's based on LSN, but I think it's probably accurate. Here's a the analysis for Penn in case you haven't seen the blog yet:
http://admissionsbythenumbers.blogspot. ... el-in.html
So all OP has to do to make up the 2 LATE months is to increase his LSAT score by 2 points.
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
I took the December LSAT last year and sent my applications out during the first week of January and got into the schools I wanted to. With a strong LSAT score and a competitive GPA, I don't think taking the December LSAT puts you at much of a disadvantage. I also attended panels held by admission counselors from different Law Schools and most of them said taking the December LSAT putting you at a disadvantage is a myth.
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
RatemyLSATprep wrote:taking the December LSAT putting you at a disadvantage is a myth.
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
Admissions counselors also claim that softs matter and that admission is holistic.RatemyLSATprep wrote:I took the December LSAT last year and sent my applications out during the first week of January and got into the schools I wanted to. With a strong LSAT score and a competitive GPA, I don't think taking the December LSAT puts you at much of a disadvantage. I also attended panels held by admission counselors from different Law Schools and most of them said taking the December LSAT putting you at a disadvantage is a myth.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying too. His blog is saying that, all things being equal (as in, two applicants with the same scores/GPA applying early vs late) applying late puts you at a significant disadvantage, but a couple of points higher on the LSAT offsets that enough to make it worth it. Specifically for Penn, for example, an applicant applying earlier than someone with identical numbers has a 25.7% higher chance of being admitted for each month that he applies earlier.Dr. Dre wrote:Bro, I think his blog is saying a 1 point increase in LSAT is more valuable than submitting app 1 month earlysuperdingle2000 wrote:Dr. Dre wrote:eh, i wouldn't say "SIGNIFICANT" but a slight advantagesuperdingle2000 wrote:All things being equal, yes, there's a significant disadvantage. With a higher LSAT score, maybe 2 points or more, probably not.
I'm basing that off of elterrible's analysis. Of course it has its limitations since it's based on LSN, but I think it's probably accurate. Here's a the analysis for Penn in case you haven't seen the blog yet:
http://admissionsbythenumbers.blogspot. ... el-in.html
So all OP has to do to make up the 2 LATE months is to increase his LSAT score by 2 points.
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
25.7% per month isn't dat significantsuperdingle2000 wrote: Yeah, that's what I'm saying too. His blog is saying that, all things being equal (as in, two applicants with the same scores applying early vs late) applying late puts you at a significant disadvantage, but a couple of points higher on the LSAT offsets that enough to make it worth it.
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
Ultimately they want people to apply, so they'll say anything.rinkrat19 wrote:Admissions counselors also claim that softs matter and that admission is holistic.RatemyLSATprep wrote:I took the December LSAT last year and sent my applications out during the first week of January and got into the schools I wanted to. With a strong LSAT score and a competitive GPA, I don't think taking the December LSAT puts you at much of a disadvantage. I also attended panels held by admission counselors from different Law Schools and most of them said taking the December LSAT putting you at a disadvantage is a myth.
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Re: Taking December LSAT - Disadvantage?
Dr. Dre wrote:25.7% per month isn't dat significantsuperdingle2000 wrote: Yeah, that's what I'm saying too. His blog is saying that, all things being equal (as in, two applicants with the same scores applying early vs late) applying late puts you at a significant disadvantage, but a couple of points higher on the LSAT offsets that enough to make it worth it.
Really? You don't think so? It seems huge to me. Worth trying hard to cop that high score as early as possible, but of course, it's still preferable to have a late app with a higher score.
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