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Admissions Advising

Postby superpippo » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:45 am

This may be a little ridiculous, but here it goes.

After having an uninformative experience, actually in hindsight, a really uninformative experience, with my undergrad's law school advising program, an experience shared by many of my peers, I am thinking of starting my own advising service to make some extra cash, and genuinely, to help some of my colleagues succeed.

I am not going to divulge all the details of my idea, but I do want to ask if you think its possible to get in trouble for this from my school if I don't do any business on campus? I know there are certain qualification necessary to give legal or medical advice of certain kinds, but legally, are there qualifications necessary for giving academic advice? I would set up the business as a peer-to-peer advising session, so I wouldn't purport myself to be a professional, just a peer alternative or supplement to what the university provides.
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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby TripTrip » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:57 am

superpippo wrote:This may be a little ridiculous

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby atcushman » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:00 am

superpippo wrote:This may be a little ridiculous, but here it goes.

After having an uninformative experience, actually in hindsight, a really uninformative experience, with my undergrad's law school advising program, an experience shared by many of my peers, I am thinking of starting my own advising service to make some extra cash, and genuinely, to help some of my colleagues succeed.

I am not going to divulge all the details of my idea, but I do want to ask if you think its possible to get in trouble for this from my school if I don't do any business on campus? I know there are certain qualification necessary to give legal or medical advice of certain kinds, but legally, are there qualifications necessary for giving academic advice? I would set up the business as a peer-to-peer advising session, so I wouldn't purport myself to be a professional, just a peer alternative or supplement to what the university provides.


either you are a 1) business that charges people for an advising service or 2) peer giving out free advice

1) bad idea bro 2) legitstill prob a bad idea bro

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby TripTrip » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:04 am

atcushman wrote:2) peer giving out free advice
See: TLS

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby superpippo » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:06 am

Cheers

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby atcushman » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:08 am

TripTrip wrote:
atcushman wrote:2) peer giving out free advice
See: TLS


true which is why I originally put good idea but then i realized this guy would be giving out advice to people in person so if his advice falls through there is a much greater chance of them tracking him down and torching his house

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby superpippo » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:15 am

atcushman wrote:
TripTrip wrote:
atcushman wrote:2) peer giving out free advice
See: TLS


true which is why I originally put good idea but then i realized this guy would be giving out advice to people in person so if his advice falls through there is a much greater chance of them tracking him down and torching his house


Yea I understand where you guys are coming from. It, on its face, really is a ridiculous idea. But if you only understood though, how ineffective our advising program has been. Many people I know who are applying to school this year (friends of friends and people in my old LSAT course) just have the mindset that they are going to law school no matter where they get into and aren't even sure if its something they want to do. They have no idea the kind of crap they are getting themselves into (this could be because I go to a UG with a generally wealthy student body). There is really an informational void that needs to be filled, but yea, maybe I'm not in the best spot to provide it.

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby atcushman » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:31 am

this is true at EVERY ug. People listen to advisors with no exp in the field and just go with the shitboomer line that lawyers are always wealthy and succesful. Most of these people have good intentions but no clue. That said if these people just want to listlen to their advisor and cant even take the initiative to google whether law school is a good idea or speak with practicing attorney to discover what it actually means to be a lawyer, why are they going to pay you to tell them? but hey there is a sucker born every minute if someone wants to pay you for your opinion...ABC

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby atcushman » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:34 am

wait a sec...are you a 0L?

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby superpippo » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:47 am

atcushman wrote:wait a sec...are you a 0L?

Yea, I got accepted and will be attending T1 law school for the next year. So I wouldn't be providing advice from the perspective of a law school attendee, just from someone who has researched a lot about attending law school and has finished the entire admissions process.

Edit::: It really is a crazy Idea, but like you mentioned earlier I feel like people are clueless enough that if they sat down with me, might actually pay me for my opinion. Plus I will have my BA since I'm graduating early so that lends me some credibility, hopefully...

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby TripTrip » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:58 am

Your first advice should be "Don't pay for advice from a 0L about attending law school."

Then just take the money and walk out.

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby atcushman » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:01 am

im not gonna slam on you...but depending who else sees this be prepared lol...don worry about this bs congrats on the acceptance enjoy ur time b4 law school fuck those ppl who cant do their own research, remember the curve, focus on your own shit if 5 years out of law school u still want to be some sort of advisor go for it then. (You wont though)

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby finnandjake2 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:04 am

TripTrip wrote:Your first advice should be "Don't pay for advice from a 0L about attending law school."

Then just take the money and walk out.


Lol'd. The best admission advice is retake and next to that polish your application. Just because you happen to know this as an 0L doesn't mean you should charge people to hear it. Be an LSAT tutor if you really want to make money helping people get into law school.

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby suralin » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:07 am

superpippo wrote:
atcushman wrote:wait a sec...are you a 0L?

Yea, I got accepted and will be attending T1 law school for the next year. So I wouldn't be providing advice from the perspective of a law school attendee, just from someone who has researched a lot about attending law school and has finished the entire admissions process.

Edit::: It really is a crazy Idea, but like you mentioned earlier I feel like people are clueless enough that if they sat down with me, might actually pay me for my opinion. Plus I will have my BA since I'm graduating early so that lends me some credibility, hopefully...


LOL

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby mg7 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:11 am

Suralin wrote:
superpippo wrote:
atcushman wrote:wait a sec...are you a 0L?

Yea, I got accepted and will be attending T1 law school for the next year. So I wouldn't be providing advice from the perspective of a law school attendee, just from someone who has researched a lot about attending law school and has finished the entire admissions process.

Edit::: It really is a crazy Idea, but like you mentioned earlier I feel like people are clueless enough that if they sat down with me, might actually pay me for my opinion. Plus I will have my BA since I'm graduating early so that lends me some credibility, hopefully...


LOL

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby Br3v » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:21 am

So you want to charge someone so you can in essence search TLS for them?

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby superpippo » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:24 am

Br3v wrote:So you want to charge someone so you can in essence search TLS for them?


Nail on head.

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby Nova » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:44 am

You could conceivably get TTT applicants to pay you for easily searchable information.

However, not telling them about TLS/LST/LSN immediately would be disingenuous.

If you dont tell them, you would be feeding off their ignorance, just like the TTTs you are purportedly helping them avoid.

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby superpippo » Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:13 am

Nova wrote:You could conceivably get TTT applicants to pay you for easily searchable information.

However, not telling them about TLS/LST/LSN immediately would be disingenuous.

If you dont tell them, you would be feeding off their ignorance, just like the TTTs you are purportedly helping them avoid.


I actually appreciate this response because it at least acknowledges the plausibility of such an idea.

When I responded Br3v, I was being slightly sarcastic. My intentions aren't actually all that bad. At my UG, our "advisors" basically want you to go wherever you want to go and they never, at least not with me, bring up or discuss employment prospects, potential for scholarship, debt management, or other extremely relevant factors. It's a very idealistic, rather than realistic advising. I feel like there is a need to direct students to real information. However, as stated before, I understand how me getting paid for distributing public information I have acquired is indeed disingenuous. It wouldn't be a pure regurgitation of TLS stuff, but I agree with what you're saying.

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby dingbat » Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:39 am

superpippo wrote:I understand how me getting paid for distributing public information I have acquired is indeed disingenuous.

how is it disingenuous? people do that all the time.
I say go for it. Hell, they're basically paying for you to do the research for them. Instead of them spending 2-3 (or more) hours online, you do it for them and charge them a reasonable fee. not only that, they're paying you to prevent them from ruining their lives, which is a vital service.

People paying people to do something they're too lazy or stupid to do themselves is just the way the world works.

no, I'm not trolling.

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby Danteshek » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:20 pm

This is fraud. If not fraud, it is extremely dishonest. Just that you are thinking of doing it throws into doubt your character and fitness to practice law.

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:23 pm

Danteshek wrote:This is fraud. If not fraud, it is extremely dishonest. Just that you are thinking of doing it throws into doubt your character and fitness to practice law.

Hey, Dante. I see you're still being worthless as usual.

OP: If you really want to help people, just point them to TLS.

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby dingbat » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:39 pm

Danteshek wrote:This is fraud. If not fraud, it is extremely dishonest. Just that you are thinking of doing it throws into doubt your character and fitness to practice law.

Explain how it is fraud to provide a service for people?
Explain what's dishonest about it?

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby jbates14 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:14 pm

Just my 2 cents...If you were actually concerned, then you would just tell them about TLS. It would be a whole lot less work. You'd have to meet some dumbasses willing to pay for something like this. Plus, you are not at all qualified or credible.

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Re: Admissions Advising

Postby dingbat » Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:46 pm

Wormfather wrote:Some nutritionists make bank. I mean, you dont even need to do much research to tell someone to stop going to Burger King and to disable the Pizza Tracker.

:lol:




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