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aample at Phoenix

Postby newgirl » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:43 pm

is anyone taking the online aample class for 2012 at Phoenix? or has anyone in the past taken it at Phoenix and actually passed? need feedback on what the programs like ...thanks!

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby The Rover » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:23 pm

Don't do it. Please don't do it.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby kamaya » Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:27 am

The Rover wrote:Don't do it. Please don't do it.


I'm curious to know why you say, "don't do it?" What is your reasoning behind your statement? I would think that if one successfully completed the ample program and it led to obtaining a seat in the Fall 2012 semester then the goal of getting into law school would be met. I believe the end justifies the means. Whether the ample program is from Florida Coastal or Charlotte School of Law or from Phoenix Law School, if it means being able to go to law school, I wouldn't pass up that opportunity.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby rinkrat19 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:34 am

kamaya wrote:
The Rover wrote:Don't do it. Please don't do it.


I'm curious to know why you say, "don't do it?" What is your reasoning behind your statement? I would think that if one successfully completed the ample program and it led to obtaining a seat in the Fall 2012 semester then the goal of getting into law school would be met. I believe the end justifies the means. Whether the ample program is from Florida Coastal or Charlotte School of Law or from Phoenix Law School, if it means being able to go to law school, I wouldn't pass up that opportunity.
You pay a lot of money for the chance to possibly pay full tuition at a school that is absolutely, categorically a terrible idea to attend. You end up six figures in debt and maaaaaybe 5% of your class gets a job that allows them to comfortably pay off that amount.

Unless your parents are rich and are footing the bill. In that case, do whatever. You still probably won't get a good legal job, but at least you won't end up drowning in debt.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby Bildungsroman » Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:34 am

I say go for it. Reach for your dreams!

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby Br3v » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:00 am

The Rover wrote:Don't do it. Please don't do it.


Literally came to say this exact thing. Exact.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby boredatwork » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:04 am

If you take the LSAT there they will offer you admission and a 6000 dollar scholarship, or at least they did for me. Didn't even need to apply!

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby kamaya » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:23 am

rinkrat19 wrote:
kamaya wrote:
The Rover wrote:Don't do it. Please don't do it.


I'm curious to know why you say, "don't do it?" What is your reasoning behind your statement? I would think that if one successfully completed the ample program and it led to obtaining a seat in the Fall 2012 semester then the goal of getting into law school would be met. I believe the end justifies the means. Whether the ample program is from Florida Coastal or Charlotte School of Law or from Phoenix Law School, if it means being able to go to law school, I wouldn't pass up that opportunity.
You pay a lot of money for the chance to possibly pay full tuition at a school that is absolutely, categorically a terrible idea to attend. You end up six figures in debt and maaaaaybe 5% of your class gets a job that allows them to comfortably pay off that amount.

Unless your parents are rich and are footing the bill. In that case, do whatever. You still probably won't get a good legal job, but at least you won't end up drowning in debt.


If you really want to go to law school, are not planning on taking the lsat again, did not get accepted to any other schools and the only program you got accepted onto in the ample program, then I would say attend the ample program and take your seat into the Fall 2012 entering class. The JD degree is what you make it. Yes, it is true that one can potentially come out of law school with a tremendous amount of debt. However, there are programs where one can work in a state, county or non profit organization for 10 years while making payments on your law school debt and then then the agency will pay off the remainder of you law school loans. So having debt should not be the main reason why one should not go to the ample program if its the persons only option. Debt can go away. But the JD degree and sense on accomplishment of being able to say that you are an attorney at law will not!

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby Mal Reynolds » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:27 am

kamaya wrote:If you really want to go to law school, are not planning on taking the lsat again, did not get accepted to any other schools and the only program you got accepted onto in the ample program, then I would say attend the ample program and take your seat into the Fall 2012 entering class. The JD degree is what you make it. Yes, it is true that one can potentially come out of law school with a tremendous amount of debt. However, there are programs where one can work in a state, county or non profit organization for 10 years while making payments on your law school debt and then then the agency will pay off the remainder of you law school loans. So having debt should not be the main reason why one should not go to the ample program if its the persons only option. Debt can go away. But the JD degree and sense on accomplishment of being able to say that you are an attorney at law will not!


Stop, just stop aample spammer.

kamaya wrote:If you really want to go to law school, are not planning on taking the lsat again, did not get accepted to any other schools and the only program you got accepted onto in the ample program.


Then you should work very hard at getting another job in order to stay out of enormous debt. There will be zero jobs coming out of these schools.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby rad lulz » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:28 am

kamaya wrote:If you really want to go to law school, are not planning on taking the lsat again, did not get accepted to any other schools and the only program you got accepted onto in the ample program, then I would say attend the ample program and take your seat into the Fall 2012 entering class. The JD degree is what you make it. Yes, it is true that one can potentially come out of law school with a tremendous amount of debt. However, there are programs where one can work in a state, county or non profit organization for 10 years while making payments on your law school debt and then then the agency will pay off the remainder of you law school loans. So having debt should not be the main reason why one should not go to the ample program if its the persons only option. Debt can go away. But the JD degree and sense on accomplishment of being able to say that you are an attorney at law will not!

Have you read literally any contemporary news stories about law school today?

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby crv8623 » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:30 am

Don't feed the troll.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby kamaya » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:24 am

Mal Reynolds wrote:
kamaya wrote:If you really want to go to law school, are not planning on taking the lsat again, did not get accepted to any other schools and the only program you got accepted onto in the ample program, then I would say attend the ample program and take your seat into the Fall 2012 entering class. The JD degree is what you make it. Yes, it is true that one can potentially come out of law school with a tremendous amount of debt. However, there are programs where one can work in a state, county or non profit organization for 10 years while making payments on your law school debt and then then the agency will pay off the remainder of you law school loans. So having debt should not be the main reason why one should not go to the ample program if its the persons only option. Debt can go away. But the JD degree and sense on accomplishment of being able to say that you are an attorney at law will not!


Stop, just stop aample spammer.

kamaya wrote:If you really want to go to law school, are not planning on taking the lsat again, did not get accepted to any other schools and the only program you got accepted onto in the ample program.


Then you should work very hard at getting another job in order to stay out of enormous debt. There will be zero jobs coming out of these schools.


Not an aample spammer by any means. Don't get upset and lash out on a forum because you don't agree with the aample program. Your statement about working hard to get another job to stay out of enormous debt makes absolutely no sense given that 10 years is not an exorbant amount of time to pay off law school debt especially if one has other debts and obligations to pay. If it gets paid off sooner, excellent. Like I said, earning the JD credential is one thing. What you do with with is solely up to the individual. While you're worried about "zero jobs coming out of these schools" there are those who will be creating their own jobs with their license to practice law from, yes that school that where they attended from getting in through the aample program.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby kamaya » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:25 am

rad lulz wrote:
kamaya wrote:If you really want to go to law school, are not planning on taking the lsat again, did not get accepted to any other schools and the only program you got accepted onto in the ample program, then I would say attend the ample program and take your seat into the Fall 2012 entering class. The JD degree is what you make it. Yes, it is true that one can potentially come out of law school with a tremendous amount of debt. However, there are programs where one can work in a state, county or non profit organization for 10 years while making payments on your law school debt and then then the agency will pay off the remainder of you law school loans. So having debt should not be the main reason why one should not go to the ample program if its the persons only option. Debt can go away. But the JD degree and sense on accomplishment of being able to say that you are an attorney at law will not!

Have you read literally any contemporary news stories about law school today?


Yes. Plenty.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby kamaya » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:27 am

crv8623 wrote:Don't feed the troll.


Don't post if you have nothing to contribute other than jumping on a bandwagon.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby IAFG » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:28 am

kamaya wrote:not planning on taking the lsat again

If I could ban one phrase from TLS...

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby rad lulz » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:36 am

What is your plan for paying off $200k in loans?

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby kamaya » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:42 am

IAFG wrote:
kamaya wrote:not planning on taking the lsat again

If I could ban one phrase from TLS...


Fortunately it's not up to you.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby kamaya » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:46 am

rad lulz wrote:What is your plan for paying off $200k in loans?


Personally, I would make sure not to strap myself with $200k in loans. There is way too much grant money available for anyone to not take advantage of finding alternative means to pay for their law school education.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby Mal Reynolds » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:50 am

kamaya wrote:Not an aample spammer by any means. Don't get upset and lash out on a forum because you don't agree with the aample program. Your statement about working hard to get another job to stay out of enormous debt makes absolutely no sense given that 10 years is not an exorbant amount of time to pay off law school debt especially if one has other debts and obligations to pay. If it gets paid off sooner, excellent. Like I said, earning the JD credential is one thing. What you do with with is solely up to the individual. While you're worried about "zero jobs coming out of these schools" there are those who will be creating their own jobs with their license to practice law from, yes that school that where they attended from getting in through the aample program.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby Br3v » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:52 am

kamaya wrote:
rad lulz wrote:What is your plan for paying off $200k in loans?


Personally, I would make sure not to strap myself with $200k in loans. There is way too much grant money available for anyone to not take advantage of finding alternative means to pay for their law school education.


Everyone stay calm, we can screw this up by being TLS-ish, or actually help someone not make a huge mistake that will effect their entire life.

Kamaya, you can't just "chose" to not take debt. Grants are not as plentiful as you may have experienced in college. Just do some brief research on the legal market and hiring. Even top schools are having tough times placing graduates.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby rad lulz » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:52 am

kamaya wrote:
rad lulz wrote:What is your plan for paying off $200k in loans?


Personally, I would make sure not to strap myself with $200k in loans. There is way too much grant money available for anyone to not take advantage of finding alternative means to pay for their law school education.

hoookay.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby Mal Reynolds » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:53 am

kamaya wrote:I've actually came across that thread that you put up from that person who got "curved out" of Texas Southern throughout my old research of TMSL threads. What I don't undestand is this whole curve process. I've read about it and for the lide of me still can't understand if someone scores 90's on exams and let's say perhaps the majority of the other students score 80's on their exams, how will that person who scored in the 90's curve downward? A curve is supposed to help those students who did not score well to gain points as a result of the person who scored the highest in the class. Granted, not every student will receive an "A." And I surely don't think that person would waste time to write their experience on a forum about how he got kicked out of law school. From what experience do you have with Thurgood Marshall? Are you going by information that people are writing on forums or are you a current or former student of the school? I'm interested to know if you can give some feedback on your understanding of this downward grading curve as well.

Also, what is a URM?


If you don't know how curves work, what a URM status denotes, or how taking out $200,000 in loans at a school with abysmal job prospects is a bad idea, you are not setting yourself up to demonstrate a lot of credibility on other issues.

I forgot to add this gem.

kamaya wrote:One most certainly can get into a decent school with a 148 lsat score. You need to do your research. Without students there are no "tuition dollars." That's simple logic.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby boredatwork » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:05 am

Think this is a ploy by the phoenix "law school" to try to drum up some numbers now that the "writing is on the wall." (admissions are down) They have a really nice building, I bet it takes a lot of suckers to pay the rent.

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby Br3v » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:06 am

boredatwork wrote:Think this is a ploy by the phoenix "law school" to try to drum up some numbers now that the "writing is on the wall." (admissions are down) They have a really nice building, I bet it takes a lot of suckers to pay the rent.


I dont think TLS is that important sadly

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Re: aample at Phoenix

Postby IAFG » Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:15 am

Br3v wrote:
boredatwork wrote:Think this is a ploy by the phoenix "law school" to try to drum up some numbers now that the "writing is on the wall." (admissions are down) They have a really nice building, I bet it takes a lot of suckers to pay the rent.


I dont think TLS is that important sadly

If this comes up when you google "aample" then the spammer has done her job.




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