High school CC classes, GPA

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High school CC classes, GPA

Postby rotar » Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:24 am

I know that your LSAC GPA included classes you took in high school at a community college and that there is no way around that. I just want to get the opinions of people on these forums on these ideas.

Instead of beating a dead horse of trying to get LSAC to change their policy what if you would argue that you were not yet 18 and therefore not able to make the decision of attending CC or not. When I enrolled in CC in high school (actually before) I was not even there, my mother had to complete all the paper work. When I bought a car at 16 it could not be in my name because dealers do not want to have the risk of a guardian saying you were not allowed to buy the car and they legally have to return your money. Why is this any different than attending CC?

My first plan is to play on the fact that the dean of my CC is simply a person doing her job to pay the mortgage and is complete out of the loop about law school admissions. I am planning on asking the dean of my CC to just remove it from my transcript since it was so long ago and I was so young. I am just going to tell her my story about why I took the class and how it is affecting me now and hope they will remove it. I hope deans are like cops, understanding people, I have gotten out of a vast number of speeding tickets by talking to the cop long before court.

I could also argue I never took the class. How can they prove I took the class? I never filled out an application, signed anything, or made a payment and I doubt they have records going back 7+ years. I would have to choose one of these 2 obviously as doing one stops the other from working not to mention saying I did not take the class is out side my ethics. Just more curious about peoples thoughts on how a CC could prove I took it than actually doing this. The grade does not fit and the timing in life I took it is not normal for most people, it looks out of place on the transcript.

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Re: High school CC classes, GPA

Postby Bildungsroman » Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:43 am

There are all terrible ideas. Just take it like a man.

Nobody gives a shit that you weren't 18. LSAC is pretty clear about dual enrollment courses counting, and the overwhelming majority of those courses take place before the person is 18 (since they happen in high school). Additionally, plenty of people start college before they're 18. You say you don't want to argue with LSAC to change their policy, but that's exactly what this patently unworkable charge you're making would be. The reasons you can have your grades used to evaluate you when you might not be old enough to buy a car are numerous, obvious, and unimportant.

As far as arguing you never took the class, you'd have to lie to LSAC, every school you apply to, and eventually the bar to keep up this charade. If you're hoping nobody ever finds out you were enrolled there then you're taking a very costly and very risky gamble, since lying on your bar application could pretty easily lead to you never being able to practice as an attorney. If you just plan to dispute the accuracy of the record and claim the transcript is lying you're even more fucking stupid.

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Re: High school CC classes, GPA

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Re: High school CC classes, GPA

Postby dolfan0516 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:39 am

Before I graduated high school, I had tons of dual enrollment credit done. I worked hard and got a great GPA.

Just admit that you messed up and deal with it. There is nothing you can do now (unless you count writing an addendum on it). Blaming other people and/or lying wont do you any good.


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Re: High school CC classes, GPA

Postby kj123 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:59 pm

No harm in asking for a withdrawal. I was able to save myself a .07 GPA drop by contacting the school that I dual enrolled through my senior year in high school and requesting a retroactive withdrawal on a particularly bad class. Of course, there were a lot of hoops to jump through with forms to fill out, but it was well worth it in the end.


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Re: High school CC classes, GPA

Postby lawschool?s » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:57 pm

I feel like this is a horrible idea. I did a running-start here in Washington where I attended a CC full time for my junior and senior year of high school. Now that I am applying to law school, your saying half of all my college credits should not even be counted.

While that may raise my GPA I do think that it is not the greatest idea esspecialy since it shows how much I have matured and where I started out age and GPA wise.


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Re: High school CC classes, GPA

Postby fosterp » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:14 pm

Why don't you just write an addendum instead of trying to figure out some elaborate plan to mask your true gpa?

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Re: High school CC classes, GPA

Postby NoleMatt » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:48 pm

fosterp wrote:Why don't you just write an addendum instead of trying to figure out some elaborate plan to mask your true gpa?

I'm glad this thread was made (in spite of the poor argument presented by the OP) because I had a question about an addendum to address this.

I did poorly in dual enrollment classes way back when and it will hurt my LSAC GPA. I'm yet to see how badly it will hurt, but my undergrad GPA was already low at 3.38. Should I write an addendum if my LSAC GPA is lowered to, say, under 3.3 because of these dual enrollment classes? Or will it not do me any good?

As always, thanks for the help.

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