Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

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Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby ibrahim831 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:06 pm

I have been accepted to Thomas Jefferson and have been wait listed at Western State. I was wondering what people think is a better school. Western state had a 83% bar passage rate recently which was quite impressive.

Thanks,

Ibrahim

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby RockyIII » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:18 pm

:x

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby LLB2JD » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:23 pm

:(

Please don't do it. What were you LSAT and GPA scores?

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby lawfuture10 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:25 pm

In before the killself postings begin..

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby rman1201 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:25 pm

Neither. The only reason to go to a law school this bad is if your current employer wants you to get a JD (and if its free)

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby FiveSermon » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:28 pm

Good idea, I support. Can't go wrong with either.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby rman1201 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:30 pm

Lets go a different direction with this thread; If you had to go to one of them, which one would you choose and why?

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby ibrahim831 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:40 pm

I kinda messed up in my undergrad i had a 2.43 gpa according to lsac and a 151 LSAT. I didn't expect to get into any tier one schools by any means and expected to get into tier 3 or 4 schools. I asked the question being serious so please only give feedback thats helpful.

I like Thomas Jefferson because they are in San Diego but I don't know much about them. Western State seems to have their ish together and are really into getting their students ready for the bar. After a Q&A with Western I thought that they would be a good choice.

Thanks,

Ibrahim

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby molawn » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:53 pm

ibrahim831 wrote:I kinda messed up in my undergrad i had a 2.43 gpa according to lsac and a 151 LSAT. I didn't expect to get into any tier one schools by any means and expected to get into tier 3 or 4 schools. I asked the question being serious so please only give feedback thats helpful.

I like Thomas Jefferson because they are in San Diego but I don't know much about them. Western State seems to have their ish together and are really into getting their students ready for the bar. After a Q&A with Western I thought that they would be a good choice.

Thanks,

Ibrahim


This is not a guarantee but when your options are that dismal, you should go with whatever school has the lower LSAT average and try to transfer to a higher ranked school. You have one semester to do this, and that's it. If you can't do it, you run the risk at having graduated from a less reputable school.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby AP-375 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:59 pm

molawn wrote:
ibrahim831 wrote:I kinda messed up in my undergrad i had a 2.43 gpa according to lsac and a 151 LSAT. I didn't expect to get into any tier one schools by any means and expected to get into tier 3 or 4 schools. I asked the question being serious so please only give feedback thats helpful.

I like Thomas Jefferson because they are in San Diego but I don't know much about them. Western State seems to have their ish together and are really into getting their students ready for the bar. After a Q&A with Western I thought that they would be a good choice.

Thanks,

Ibrahim


This is not a guarantee but when your options are that dismal, you should go with whatever school has the lower LSAT average and try to transfer to a higher ranked school. You have one semester to do this, and that's it. If you can't do it, you run the risk at having graduated from a less reputable school.

Ok, so I'm not all-knowing, but I think that the above is TERRIBLE advice. Like, I'm wondering if it's even serious. Pick a school, but don't pick one based on this plan.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby RockyIII » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:00 pm

molawn wrote:This is not a guarantee but when your options are that dismal, you should go with whatever school has the lower LSAT average and try to transfer to a higher ranked school. You have one semester to do this, and that's it. If you can't do it, you run the risk at having graduated from a less reputable school.


Worst. Advice. Ever.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby molawn » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:15 pm

It's bad advice in general, but not in this situation. Besides, I discussed the risks associated with the advice.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby cortnf » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:31 pm

this will be you. don't go to law school.
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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby Grizz » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:32 pm

molawn wrote:It's bad advice in general, but not in this situation. Besides, I discussed the risks associated with the advice.


Better advice:

1) retake LSAT
2) don't go to law school

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby molawn » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:43 pm

rad law wrote:
molawn wrote:It's bad advice in general, but not in this situation. Besides, I discussed the risks associated with the advice.


Better advice:

1) retake LSAT
2) don't go to law school


Those weren't options.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby RockyIII » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:45 pm

Those are always options

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby molawn » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:09 pm

RockyIII wrote:Those are always options


You should do that, then.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby SFnative » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:53 pm

you guys have just been trolled.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby RockyIII » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:54 am

Punk'd

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby romothesavior » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:59 am

Hey guys, I was trying to decide between cyanide and blowing my brains out. Anybody have any advice?

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby romothesavior » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:01 am

I just read through this thread completely and saw that gem from molawn. Dear god. No one do that. You'd be better off taking that 40k down to the casino and putting it all on black than you would going to a school like TJLS and trying to transfer to a school worth going to. Your odds are significantly better (almost 50% vs. < 5%).

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby ibrahim831 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:25 am

I was just looking for something like TSJL is better then western or Western is better than thomas jefferson. Or maybe a synopsis on both schools strengths and weaknesses or maybe you should press to get off the wait list... I think i am going to go jump off a building now... JK

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby romothesavior » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:35 am

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/business/09law.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2

All you need to know about Thomas Jefferson is in this article.

OP, both of these schools will rob you blind and give you a near-worthless degree that is more useful for rolling cigarettes or wiping your butt with than getting a decent legal job. TJLS is arguably the worst law school in the country for value because they give almost no merit aid.

You really should re-take the LSAT (study your ass off for it, seriously... don't slouch) and re-apply. Don't spend a dime on these schools. If you're not willing to re-take or you can't do better, then don't go to law school.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby atashakor » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:55 am

TJ is a crapy school, but attend if they give you $$$, they are in alot of debt because of their 140 million dollar building. [its very nice, there is doorman with a suit opening the door, all kinds of technology, but they are in debt,]
im not sure about western, i believe they have high attrition rate.

AND NEVER GO WITH THE MINDSET THAT YOU CAN TRANSFER.

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Re: Thomas Jefferson School of Law vs. Western State

Postby FAR262 » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:35 am

ibrahim831 wrote:I was just looking for something like TSJL is better then western or Western is better than thomas jefferson. Or maybe a synopsis on both schools strengths and weaknesses or maybe you should press to get off the wait list... I think i am going to go jump off a building now... JK


Western is considered slightly better I believe so I would go with this option. But don't base your decision on the bar passage rate. If when you start studying for the bar you are having trouble take class on it right after you graduate LS. But a good LS should be spending its time teaching you to think like a lawyer not teaching you the bar exam.




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