bdubs wrote: rman1201 wrote: JusticeHarlan wrote:
rman1201 wrote:I dont see the reason for the negative reactions to these rankings. I think its safe to assume these will be factored into the 2012 US News Rankings along with the peer school / lawyer & judge ratings which already exist, however recruiter ratings actually mean something since these are the people who will employ you.
The biggest knock is the tepid 14% response rate. 86% of recruiters though so little of USNWR that they didn't bother giving them the time of day.
TBF, a 14% response rate is pretty good as far as mail out surveys go.
But I agree that the sample and response rate is still too low to draw any sort of meaningful inference from these rankings. I do see the point though - eventually this would be a useful rating to include in the rankings. The first few attempts would be expected to draw a low response rate, but once the measure becomes more established we could probably expect a higher response. Right now this is just in the 'beta phase'.
And no, I do not work for US News.
The response rate for the lawyer and judge ratings, which are used in the official rankings, is equally pitiful.
Is anyone else surprised that there were more than 5,300 hiring partners that USNWR was able to identify? How many people do hiring at biglaw firms?
Furthermore, this type of survey lends itself to exaggerating biases. My guess is that people that think very highly of their alma mater and/or have an inferiority complex are more likely to respond.
In response to rman1201, it is not exactly clear from the survey what is being asked of the recruiters. At one point it says the survey is trying to discern the schools from which the firms recruit. In the same paragraph it says they are asked to rank the schools based on academic reputation. These are different measures, and my not be perfectly related.
I think hiring trends tend to bear this out. Comparing these ratings to the NLJ250 hiring indicates that Chicago and Penn seem to be underrated in the US News list whereas UMich is overrated.