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certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby wanderlust10 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:07 am

Hello all -

I plan on applying to law school the next round and just had a question I was curious about. It is apparent on my resume and various activities that I am a Conservative, however I was wondering how that translates to law schools. I really love schools like NYU and Columbia, but I'm wondering if my conservatives leanings are a turn-off for the apparent liberal leaning each of these schools have. Does it have any effect at all?

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby Upton Sinclair » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:14 am

What institution of higher learning doesn't lean left? You'll be fine.

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby apparentlynew » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:20 am

I've wondered this myself (out of curiosity, since I am extremely liberal) but it might even help you a little, based purely on the following speculation: maybe you would even contribute some intellectual diversity in their view. I think that making yourself stand out is generally much more important than pandering to what you suppose the school's expectations are. If you have good softs that show you're a conservative, play it up.

This may not extend to explicitly or implicitly embracing policy positions likely to be at odds with the Adcomm's politics, such as opposing rights to same-sex marriage, etc.

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby duckmoney » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:34 am

I put president of the college republicans on my resume and I got into nyu and chicago. Probably would have gotten Columbia too if my LSAT were a little higher. I really don't think it hurts you, especially if you show that you're educated about it and involved with it. That said, adcomms definitely lean left and I don't think it would help you either, so leave it off your resume unless you have real involvement with it.

And no matter, don't highlight it in your personal statement. There's no reason to make that controversial.

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby bhan87 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:42 am

I doubt your political leanings will make any impact. For instance, a person that was a campaign manager for a major conservative politician would be much more interesting than the president of a university's Democrat club. It's more of a question of what you accomplished than what your political leanings are.

On another note, don't use your personal statement for political commentary or to push a political viewpoint. That's bad to do whether your liberal OR conservative.

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby jackattack17 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:44 am

On a slightly different note (and I'm not sure of your numbers), but I've heard that George Mason is a fairly conservative school, and American a very liberal one, so I would take that into account if you're looking into DC schools. Mason would be a much better fit (and your conservatism might help if you're a borderline candidate and can express it). But, like Duckmonkey said, no need to bring up controversial political issues in your personal statements.

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby Ty Webb » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:50 am

All law schools are harder for conservatives because you all lack the ability to think at a high level.

HTH.

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby Bumi » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:44 pm

wanderlust10 wrote:Hello all -

I plan on applying to law school the next round and just had a question I was curious about. It is apparent on my resume and various activities that I am a Conservative, however I was wondering how that translates to law schools. I really love schools like NYU and Columbia, but I'm wondering if my conservatives leanings are a turn-off for the apparent liberal leaning each of these schools have. Does it have any effect at all?

If you don't already, you should be reading the Volokh Conspiracy blog. Sometimes they post about this kind of thing, like here and here. I recall a post about how being conservative helps law students find mentorships and clerkships because they are such a minority that the conservative profs/judges will really want to take them under their wing and help their career, but I couldn't find it (no idea if this hypothesis has merit). I personally lean left, but I read them anyway.

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby vanwinkle » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:45 pm

Oh, is it "I'm a 0L baselessly speculating that law school is harder for conservatives" time again already?

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby nshapkar » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:30 pm

Ty Webb wrote:All law schools are harder for conservatives because you all lack the ability to think at a high level.

HTH.


+1

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby Cade McNown » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:33 pm

Upton Sinclair wrote:What institution of higher learning doesn't lean left? You'll be fine.


The right leaning ones. Also, law is a conservative profession...You aren't going to get your Masters in Social Work.

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby rman1201 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:37 pm

Cade McNown wrote:
Upton Sinclair wrote:What institution of higher learning doesn't lean left? You'll be fine.


The right leaning ones. Also, law is a conservative profession...You aren't going to get your Masters in Social Work.


For law being a 'conservative profession', they sure do donate a lot of money to democrats...
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=K01

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby TheFactor » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:44 pm

Cade McNown wrote:Also, law is a conservative profession

no

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby phillaw » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:59 pm

if you can't check your politics at the door to do well on a law school exam, i'm worried for you at any law school. bleeding hearts must do cold hearted economic analysis sometimes and conservatives must argue in favor of substantive due process rights sometimes. it's part of the job.

now if you're asking about finding friends with similar interests, that might vary on law schools, but guaranteed you will find plenty of conservatives at all t14s.

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby aspire2more » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:57 pm

If you are really concerned, you can always attend a school with a religious affiliation.

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby TheFactor » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:15 pm

Have you considered Reagent or Liberty?

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby d34d9823 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:18 pm

nshapkar wrote:
Ty Webb wrote:All law schools are harder for conservatives because you all lack the ability to think at a high level.

HTH.


+1

And yet somehow the top schools keep letting them in...

I'm not a conservative, but taking cheap shots like this is bullshit.

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby mettasutta » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:23 pm

TheFactor wrote:Have you considered Reagent or Liberty?


OP got a 168 on the LSAT; he/she should be shooting much, much higher than this. The aforementioned schools have awful prospects, being TTTT institutions in a state crowded with far superior schools (UVA, W&M, W&L, George Mason, URichmond, etc.)

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby ahduth » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:44 pm

wanderlust10 wrote:I'm wondering if my conservatives leanings are a turn-off for the apparent liberal leaning each of these schools have. Does it have any effect at all?


No.

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby 1ferret! » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:46 pm

mettasutta wrote:
TheFactor wrote:Have you considered Reagent or Liberty?


OP got a 168 on the LSAT; he/she should be shooting much, much higher than this. The aforementioned schools have awful prospects, being TTTT institutions in a state crowded with far superior schools (UVA, W&M, W&L, George Mason, URichmond, etc.)

dood....

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby dextermorgan » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:51 pm

Upton Sinclair wrote:What institution of higher learning doesn't lean left? You'll be fine.

BYU

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby d34d9823 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:57 pm

dextermorgan wrote:
Upton Sinclair wrote:What institution of higher learning doesn't lean left? You'll be fine.

BYU

When he said higher, I don't think he meant meta-astro-physical.

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby Cade McNown » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:41 pm

TheFactor wrote:
Cade McNown wrote:Also, law is a conservative profession

no


rman1201 wrote:For law being a 'conservative profession', they sure do donate a lot of money to democrats...
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=K01


Oh come on rman, I said conservative not republican. If you guys dispute this you really are hopeless. Do yourself a favor and google these two phrases:

1. "law is a conservative profession" <---About 1,380 results.
2. "law is a liberal profession" <---About 9 results.

FWIW, you will get similar differences when you misspell a word:

1. "Wednesday" <---About 571 Million results
2. "Wendsday" <---About 112 Thousand results

Oh, and btw, you will notice that 2 of the top 3 google results for that phrase come from Temple and UT Austin law schools' websites.

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby dakatz » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:42 pm

wanderlust10 wrote:Hello all -

I plan on applying to law school the next round and just had a question I was curious about. It is apparent on my resume and various activities that I am a Conservative, however I was wondering how that translates to law schools. I really love schools like NYU and Columbia, but I'm wondering if my conservatives leanings are a turn-off for the apparent liberal leaning each of these schools have. Does it have any effect at all?


No

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Re: certain law schools harder for conservatives?

Postby dextermorgan » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:58 pm

Cade McNown wrote:
TheFactor wrote:
Cade McNown wrote:Also, law is a conservative profession

no


rman1201 wrote:For law being a 'conservative profession', they sure do donate a lot of money to democrats...
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=K01


Oh come on rman, I said conservative not republican. If you guys dispute this you really are hopeless. Do yourself a favor and google these two phrases:

1. "law is a conservative profession" <---About 1,380 results.
2. "law is a liberal profession" <---About 9 results.

FWIW, you will get similar differences when you misspell a word:

1. "Wednesday" <---About 571 Million results
2. "Wendsday" <---About 112 Thousand results

Oh, and btw, you will notice that 2 of the top 3 google results for that phrase come from Temple and UT Austin law schools' websites.

Traditional =/= politically conservative.




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