4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

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4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby Zooey » Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:26 pm

If ive done 4 years of college, with credit (and transcripts available), but no BA awarded, does it matter?

Will i be asked by LSAC or the LS for a degree certificate?

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby OGR3 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:30 pm

Yes.

You must have a bachelors degree to attend an accredited law school.

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby r6_philly » Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:36 pm

OGR3 wrote:Yes.

You must have a bachelors degree to attend an accredited law school.


There are a few that allow you to earn your bachelors before the end of 1L year if admitted, IIRC.

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby 005618502 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:40 pm

How do you have 4 years completed but no BA/BS? Just finish and get your degree. This is a retarded post

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby r6_philly » Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:44 pm

jt1341 wrote:How do you have 4 years completed but no BA/BS? Just finish and get your degree. This is a retarded post


Maybe stopped before all the requirements are met even though 120+ credit was earned? For some people that means they have to go back to UG to finish the requirements, and I can understand the desire to not do so if you are trying to get an advanced degree. I can't recall which schools allow this, but there are.

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby 005618502 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:46 pm

r6_philly wrote:
jt1341 wrote:How do you have 4 years completed but no BA/BS? Just finish and get your degree. This is a retarded post


Maybe stopped before all the requirements are met even though 120+ credit was earned? For some people that means they have to go back to UG to finish the requirements, and I can understand the desire to not do so if you are trying to get an advanced degree. I can't recall which schools allow this, but there are.


VERY few, and the ones that do allow yo to earn a JD without an undergraduate degree are probably not the best schools...

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:49 pm

@r6-philly: Which law schools allow one to matriculate prior to earning an undergraduate degree so long as the college degree will be awarded prior to completion of the first year of law school ? Thanks !

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby 005618502 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:52 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:@r6-philly: Which law schools allow one to matriculate prior to earning an undergraduate degree so long as the college degree will be awarded prior to completion of the first year of law school ? Thanks !

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby Zooey » Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:01 pm

Thanks for the replies.

So who is it that i would need to submit the BA too, LSAC? Will they need a copy of the degree certificate?

The school i awards a degree, just not a BA (yeah, its complicated), will that matter.

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby 005618502 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:06 pm

Zooey wrote:Thanks for the replies.

So who is it that i would need to submit the BA too, LSAC? Will they need a copy of the degree certificate?

The school i awards a degree, just not a BA (yeah, its complicated), will that matter.


BS? i mean what kind of degree is it?
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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:06 pm

Although I am not certain, my understanding is that Michigan may admit a law school applicant without an undergraduate degree so long as the BA or BS is completed & awarded prior to matriculation at the Univ. of Michigan School of Law (a law school which requires ED admits to start in the summer term).

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby r6_philly » Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:07 pm

Law schools will ask to see your degree granting transcript. So the transcript must have a date when the degree was conferred.

LSAC only assembles the transcript for law schools to review.

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby r6_philly » Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:09 pm

jt1341 wrote:
CanadianWolf wrote:@r6-philly: Which law schools allow one to matriculate prior to earning an undergraduate degree so long as the college degree will be awarded prior to completion of the first year of law school ? Thanks !


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Last paragraph. UT says by the beginning of 3L! I am pretty sure I read it elsewhere too.

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby 005618502 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:13 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:Although I am not certain, my understanding is that Michigan may admit a law school applicant without an undergraduate degree so long as the BA or BS is completed & awarded prior to matriculation at the Univ. of Michigan School of Law (a law school which requires ED admits to start in the summer term).


This is how all schools are. You apply before you have your degree, you have to provide proof of recieving it by the time you actually attend the school

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby r6_philly » Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:37 pm

jt1341 wrote:
CanadianWolf wrote:Although I am not certain, my understanding is that Michigan may admit a law school applicant without an undergraduate degree so long as the BA or BS is completed & awarded prior to matriculation at the Univ. of Michigan School of Law (a law school which requires ED admits to start in the summer term).


This is how all most schools are. You apply before you have your degree, you have to provide proof of recieving it by the time you actually attend the school


Read the UT website (link above). Not a TTT either obviously.

Edit: shouldn't you know? Am I wrong on the info? I just remember reading it and at other schools. I have a degree so I didn't investigate further.

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby CanadianWolf » Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:37 pm

My concern is for students who will be graduating in the summer, rather than in the spring as is traditional. I should have been more clear in my earlier post, sorry.

This question is common also for those graduating from undergraduate schools on the quarter or trimester system that finish in June with respect to applying ED to Michigan which requires ED admits to start in late May or early June prior to completion of degree requirements for these students.

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby r6_philly » Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:02 pm

I don't think it is going to work for Michigan, you can always ask them before sending the contract. I was accepted for RD last year and I wasn't supposed to get the degree until Aug. So summer graduate is ok for RD. I end up going to grad school instead and my UG almost screwed me over because they didn't do the degree transcript until this month. I had to get a letter from the department chair and the registrar to show that I did fulfill my degree requirements.

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby ohlawl » Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:20 pm

With all the talk about how terrible legal job market is, I'm surprised no one said to get the BA finished to fall back on after law school.

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby bk1 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:43 pm

ohlawl wrote:With all the talk about how terrible legal job market is, I'm surprised no one said to get the BA finished to fall back on after law school.


A BA doesn't make you more employable at Starbucks.

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby r6_philly » Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:50 pm

Then go back to UG and get a BS instead and pad GPA in the process.

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby djjf39 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:52 pm

bk1 wrote:
ohlawl wrote:With all the talk about how terrible legal job market is, I'm surprised no one said to get the BA finished to fall back on after law school.


A BA doesn't make you more employable at Starbucks.


I got turned down from Starbucks and I have an MA. I wasn't sure what to think about that occurrence

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby west » Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:44 pm

r6_philly wrote:
jt1341 wrote:
CanadianWolf wrote:@r6-philly: Which law schools allow one to matriculate prior to earning an undergraduate degree so long as the college degree will be awarded prior to completion of the first year of law school ? Thanks !


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Last paragraph. UT says by the beginning of 3L! I am pretty sure I read it elsewhere too.

I think Cornell says something about finishing it by the end of 1L, but only for exceptional candidates (or something to that effect).

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby Renzo » Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:18 pm

Zooey wrote:Thanks for the replies.

So who is it that i would need to submit the BA too, LSAC? Will they need a copy of the degree certificate?

The school i awards a degree, just not a BA (yeah, its complicated), will that matter.

Art school? Yeshiva?

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby 005618502 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:20 pm

djjf39 wrote:
bk1 wrote:
ohlawl wrote:With all the talk about how terrible legal job market is, I'm surprised no one said to get the BA finished to fall back on after law school.


A BA doesn't make you more employable at Starbucks.


I got turned down from Starbucks and I have an MA. I wasn't sure what to think about that occurrence


Many places will not hire someone who is over qualified because they know you wont stay and it is just a temp job till you find something better

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Re: 4 years of College, No Degree. Does it matter?

Postby 005618502 » Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:21 pm

r6_philly wrote:
jt1341 wrote:
CanadianWolf wrote:Although I am not certain, my understanding is that Michigan may admit a law school applicant without an undergraduate degree so long as the BA or BS is completed & awarded prior to matriculation at the Univ. of Michigan School of Law (a law school which requires ED admits to start in the summer term).


This is how all most schools are. You apply before you have your degree, you have to provide proof of recieving it by the time you actually attend the school


Read the UT website (link above). Not a TTT either obviously.

Edit: shouldn't you know? Am I wrong on the info? I just remember reading it and at other schools. I have a degree so I didn't investigate further.


I should know, but i dont. I had no interest in spending another 3 years at UT. So i havent looked into it at all. I know for UVA you much provide your BA/BS or whatever completed before you start classes




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