Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

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Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby tranandy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:36 pm

Hey all,
Due to boredom and sheer curiosity, I thought it might be interesting to do a headcount of how many T20 lawyers there are at the 2010 Vault 50 most prestigious law firms. It's all in an excel spreadsheet I have. I only got data on 40 of the 50 firms due to the availability of information on the firm websites. I have no idea how to post it here without screwing up the formatting so if anyone is interested in viewing it, send me a pm and I will send you the spreadsheet. Just please don't screw up the data and publish it elsewhere -- it should be locked anyway. I would appreciate if someone knew how to post the data here though or at least a link. The headcount includes headcount of all attorneys, partners, associates, counsel, etc, except for retired partners.

Some firms have attorneys listed on under either/both "The" university of ______ and just "university of _______" so keep that in mind when verifying data.

Based on my counting, 2/3 of all V10 attorneys are T20, over half of all V25 are T20 and nearly half of all V50 attorneys are T20.

You guys can come to your own conclusions regarding the rest of the data.

Best regards.

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Re: Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby vexion » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:46 pm

Upload it to a filesharing website like Rapidshare, or your Public folder on Dropbox, then provide a download link
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Re: Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby tranandy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:52 pm

vexion wrote:Upload it to a filesharing website like Rapidshare, or your Public folder on Dropbox, then provide a download link.ease.


Thanks for the advice - I did it:
http://rapidshare.com/files/401398827/L ... Study.xlsx

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Re: Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby RayFinkle » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:00 pm

So you're saying I should have gone to Harvard?

Thanks for the info.

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Re: Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby tru » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:00 am

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Re: Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby 12262010 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:03 am

very cool. thanks OP.

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Re: Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby im_blue » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:56 am

Taking these totals, dividing by the current 1L class size, and expressing as a percentage of the maximum:

V1-25 Placement
Harvard 100
Columbia 98
Chicago 92
NYU 78
Yale 77
Stanford 57
Penn 55
Cornell 47
Georgetown 45
Michigan 44
Virginia 43
Northwestern 42
Duke 39
Berkeley 35
UCLA 26
GW 23
USC 21
Vanderbilt 15
Texas 13
WUSTL 9

V1-50 Placement
Harvard 100
Columbia 97
Chicago 93
NYU 87
Yale 79
Stanford 64
Penn 59
Cornell 54
Georgetown 54
Virginia 51
Northwestern 50
Michigan 49
Berkeley 46
Duke 43
UCLA 34
Texas 34
USC 27
GW 25
Vanderbilt 24
WUSTL 11

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Re: Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby vexion » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:02 am

100% of Harvard grads go V25? Not a single one of them clerks or does PI? :roll:

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Re: Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby RayFinkle » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:06 am

vexion wrote:100% of Harvard grads go V25? Not a single one of them clerks or does PI? :roll:


huh?

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Re: Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby Flanker1067 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:07 am

vexion wrote:100% of Harvard grads go V25? Not a single one of them clerks or does PI? :roll:



Fail.

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Re: Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby D. H2Oman » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:08 am

vexion wrote:100% of Harvard grads go V25? Not a single one of them clerks or does PI? :roll:



You lose

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Re: Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby KMaine » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:22 am

Reread methodology.

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Re: Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby 09042014 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:25 am

Transfers and part time should really be added. Your methodology gives benefit to schools with large transfer classes like Gtown.

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Re: Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby im_blue » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:25 pm

OK, taking these totals, dividing by the number of JDs awarded, and expressing as a percentage of the maximum:

V1-10
Columbia 100
Harvard 95
Yale 83
NYU 78
Chicago 75
Penn 59
Stanford 53
Cornell 50
Northwestern 46
Duke 40
Michigan 38
Georgetown 30
Virginia 29
Berkeley 26
GW 16
Vanderbilt 14
UCLA 12
Texas 9
USC 8
WUSTL 7

V1-25
Harvard 100
Columbia 89
Chicago 86
Yale 82
NYU 76
Stanford 57
Penn 55
Cornell 52
Northwestern 46
Duke 41
Michigan 40
Georgetown 40
Virginia 39
Berkeley 38
UCLA 23
USC 22
GW 21
Vanderbilt 16
Texas 11
WUSTL 9

V1-50
Harvard 100
Columbia 89
Chicago 87
Yale 84
NYU 84
Stanford 65
Cornell 60
Penn 59
Northwestern 55
Berkeley 49
Georgetown 48
Virginia 47
Michigan 45
Duke 45
Texas 31
UCLA 30
USC 28
Vanderbilt 25
GW 23
WUSTL 10
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Re: Number of T20 grads at Vault 50 firms

Postby tranandy » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:57 pm

im_blue wrote:OK, taking these totals, dividing by the number of JDs awarded, and expressing as a percentage of the maximum:

V1-10
Columbia 100
Harvard 95
Yale 83
NYU 78
Chicago 75
Penn 59
Stanford 53
Cornell 50
Northwestern 46
Duke 40
Michigan 38
Georgetown 30
Virginia 29
Berkeley 26
GW 16
Vanderbilt 14
UCLA 12
Texas 9
USC 8
WUSTL 7

V1-25
Harvard 100
Columbia 89
Chicago 86
Yale 82
NYU 76
Stanford 57
Penn 55
Cornell 52
Northwestern 46
Duke 41
Michigan 40
Georgetown 40
Virginia 39
Berkeley 38
UCLA 23
USC 22
GW 21
Vanderbilt 16
Texas 11
WUSTL 9

V1-50
Harvard 100
Columbia 89
Chicago 87
Yale 84
NYU 84
Stanford 65
Cornell 60
Penn 59
Northwestern 55
Georgetown 48
Virginia 47
Michigan 45
Duke 45
Texas 31
UCLA 30
USC 28
Vanderbilt 25
GW 23
WUSTL 10


One issue with using the latest class numbers is class sizes have changed over the years and the vast majority of V50 attorneys graduated years ago. Alternatives would be to use a weighted average or the total number of living alumni at each school.

Regardless of the alternatives, your results are probably a close and good enough approximation. Thanks for running the numbers.




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