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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
I would bet at least some schools would ding you for it.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
Not sure why you would do either of these things. You should just write a semi-interesting, non-plagiarized two page essay and not worry about it.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
im a firm believer that numbers speak for themselves, as evident in the incoming 1L class statics of all T-14s.kumba84 wrote:Not sure why you would do either of these things. You should just write a semi-interesting, non-plagiarized two page essay and not worry about it.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
They might get a good laugh if you include all rap lyrics in place of your PS.
That is of course if they read your PS.
That is of course if they read your PS.
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- vanwinkle
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
This makes no sense. Schools taking high-LSAT/GPA applicants ≠ Schools taking all available high-LSAT/GPA applicants. Schools end up rejecting folks who have the same numbers as the people they accept. There are enough people applying to top law schools that those schools can reject the occasional total fuckup without hurting themselves in any way.SandyC877 wrote:im a firm believer that numbers speak for themselves, as evident in the incoming 1L class statics of all T-14s.kumba84 wrote:Not sure why you would do either of these things. You should just write a semi-interesting, non-plagiarized two page essay and not worry about it.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
DO IT. The worst that can happen is that you remove yourself from the competition.SandyC877 wrote:im a firm believer that numbers speak for themselves, as evident in the incoming 1L class statics of all T-14s.kumba84 wrote:Not sure why you would do either of these things. You should just write a semi-interesting, non-plagiarized two page essay and not worry about it.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
not that I would do it, it just seems possible.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
I vote for you doing it and then letting us know how it goes If it does work it'll be valuable knowledge for future applicants....
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
Do it. You can report back on your findings to the rest of us. Be bold, be brave, be the test case!SandyC877 wrote:not that I would do it, it just seems possible.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
You honestly don't think that at least a few top schools, even those just outside T-14, would take me?kazu wrote:I vote for you doing it and then letting us know how it goes If it does work it'll be valuable knowledge for future applicants....
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
I didn't say that, I suppose there may be a few, it's just that nobody honestly knows which schools are the true numbers whores and which actually look at the applications "holistically". I guess I was being half-serious when saying that if you do decide to go ahead, the results will be valuable for the rest of us.SandyC877 wrote:You honestly don't think that at least a few top schools, even those just outside T-14, would take me?kazu wrote:I vote for you doing it and then letting us know how it goes If it does work it'll be valuable knowledge for future applicants....
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
Exactly. They don't need one person all that bad.vanwinkle wrote:This makes no sense. Schools taking high-LSAT/GPA applicants ≠ Schools taking all available high-LSAT/GPA applicants. Schools end up rejecting folks who have the same numbers as the people they accept. There are enough people applying to top law schools that those schools can reject the occasional total fuckup without hurting themselves in any way.SandyC877 wrote:im a firm believer that numbers speak for themselves, as evident in the incoming 1L class statics of all T-14s.kumba84 wrote:Not sure why you would do either of these things. You should just write a semi-interesting, non-plagiarized two page essay and not worry about it.
Though if the OP ED'd at NU or UVA, they'd be in. Probably even if they repeatedly used the N word in their essays.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
He should ED to UVA and just write watermelon 1000 times for his PS and see if he gets in.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
Maybe if the poem was actually good.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
If you're a firm believer that numbers speak for themselves why write a risky PS that could possibly get you dinged from the best schools? A 176 with a 3.9 is great, but not so good that it will ensure acceptance into some schools if your PS is a pile of shit; or, even if they are, why tempt fate? I agree with the quote above. It seems odd that someone would work so hard to secure a 3.9 and 176 LSAT score only to jeopardize their chances by producing a risky or gimmicky PS. Then again I haven't read your PS, and maybe it very good, you'll have to be the judge of that.SandyC877 wrote:im a firm believer that numbers speak for themselves, as evident in the incoming 1L class statics of all T-14s.kumba84 wrote:Not sure why you would do either of these things. You should just write a semi-interesting, non-plagiarized two page essay and not worry about it.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
if you want to test out your hypothesis, try it for schools with large classes that aren't known for yield protecting like nyu and georgetown. They're probably the schools where it's easiest to predict admissions decisions. some small schools may try to tailor their class in particular fashion and other schools may yield protect, so for these it would be harder to tell whether a rejected/waitlisted decision was do to these factors or a provocative PS.SandyC877 wrote:If I have a 3.9/176 and wrote an auto-biographical style poem as a PS, would it hurt my chances? How about if I copy and paste an entry of Wikipedia. Would schools care?
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkF7Bj5cxJUjawsthegreat wrote:He should ED to UVA and just write watermelon 1000 times for his PS and see if he gets in.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
i would say schools would totally care...at least a good number of schools in the T14SandyC877 wrote:im a firm believer that numbers speak for themselves, as evident in the incoming 1L class statics of all T-14s.kumba84 wrote:Not sure why you would do either of these things. You should just write a semi-interesting, non-plagiarized two page essay and not worry about it.
BUT on a more self-serving note, plz do it and tell us how your cycle turns out because this would be GREAT anecdotal evidence for or against schools being just numbers oriented lol
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
I wanted to see if I could write a PS that turned even Cooley off, but they don't even want a PS!
I also wanted to write a PS to Liberty about evolution, but the problem with a 2.8 GPA is that some really terrible schools might reject you just for the GPA. So I wouldn't know that it was because of the PS.
I also wanted to write a PS to Liberty about evolution, but the problem with a 2.8 GPA is that some really terrible schools might reject you just for the GPA. So I wouldn't know that it was because of the PS.
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- najumobi
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
lol...this is pretty overt.jawsthegreat wrote:He should ED to UVA and just write watermelon 1000 times for his PS and see if he gets in.
there are probably better ways for OP to go about testing his theory without seeming to admissions people like he's blantantly trying to undermine the admissions process.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
I...what just happened?vanwinkle wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkF7Bj5cxJUjawsthegreat wrote:He should ED to UVA and just write watermelon 1000 times for his PS and see if he gets in.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
From what I can gather, the majority opinion is that PS can hurt you, but it can't help you.
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Re: How much leeway does a 3.9/176 have in screwing with the PS?
I would think that for schools like Stanford or Yale, that have smaller bodies and are probably more selective about the "type" of student they admit, a good PS would definitely help. Your original question, will a terrible PS hurt a 3.9 / 176 applicant, didn't really ask whether good PSs can help your application, only whether a bad one could hurt.SandyC877 wrote:From what I can gather, the majority opinion is that PS can hurt you, but it can't help you.
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