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Footnotes in PS?

Post by Marinekingprime » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:57 am

I have allot of supplementary information for my law school package (medical records, youth record, elementary and high school records, newspaper article and so on and so forth) would it be all right to reference this material in my PS by using footnotes?

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by Kilpatrick » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:00 am

Marinekingprime wrote:I have allot of supplementary information for my law school package (medical records, youth record, elementary and high school records, newspaper article and so on and so forth) would it be all right to reference this material in my PS by using footnotes?
So you're asking if you should do something like:

"And then when I was 14 I won a pie eating contest at the county fair.[1] That's why you should let me in to your law school.

[1] see attached article from the Bumfuck Examiner."

The answer is absolutely not.

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by Holly Golightly » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:36 am

If I were an admissions dean, I would auto-ding anyone who used footnotes in their PS.

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Post by kaiser » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:42 am

Of course not

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Post by DocHawkeye » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:49 am

I would auto ding anyone who has ever used the word "allot" when they mean "a lot."

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by boosk » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:22 am

haha brutal in here

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by billyez » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:48 pm

The point's already been made, but no. All this will do is just pull the reader out of the story. If you want to say (to paraphrase Kilpatrick), "I won a pie-eating contest when I was 14 and still remember with pride reading my name in the paper!" that's reasonable. But a footnote is not.

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by Dany » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:58 pm

billyez wrote:If you want to say (to paraphrase Kilpatrick), "I won a pie-eating contest when I was 14 and still remember with pride reading my name in the paper!" that's reasonable.
Also no.

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by Flips88 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:01 pm

First, no footnotes.

Second, in what capacity are report cards from elementary school relevant to law school admissions?

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by billyez » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:04 pm

Dany wrote:
billyez wrote:If you want to say (to paraphrase Kilpatrick), "I won a pie-eating contest when I was 14 and still remember with pride reading my name in the paper!" that's reasonable.
Also no.
Lol - I'm not being literal. The point is that if you have facts that you want to bring in to your PS then weave them into it in a normal fashion - not through something that would interrupt the flow of the PS.

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by Dany » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:10 pm

That's still kind of like a citation, and it still sucks. You shouldn't be listing sources for stuff even if you're doing it in a narrative fashion. It's still weird and detracts from the essay.

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Post by blsingindisguise » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:12 pm

I disagree with the "conventional wisdom" being espoused in this thread. Footnotes are a great way to show erudition. However, it is absolutely essential that they be in proper Bluebook (legal citation) form. These people on the adcoms are lawyers and legal academics! I suggest you start reading up: http://www.legalbluebook.com/

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Post by NZA » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:12 pm

I would totally do it. Don't listen to the haters.

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by Helmholtz » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:14 pm

:lol:

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by danidancer » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:17 pm

I seriously debated using/not using a footnote in my PS (completely tangental to the narrative, but necessary background info for the statement's message). I ultimately used the footnote. But again, in my case it was only one footnote, the footnote itself was just 5 or 6 words long, and the footnote was solely used to CLARIFY something (i.e., not as a citation) I didn't want to discuss at length and that otherwise would have broken up the main text in a really bad way if incorporated into the PS in any other way.

Bottom line: while I definitely wouldn't ENCOURAGE the use of footnotes, in my case I don't think it hurt my application.

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by Anonymous Loser » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:23 pm

blsingindisguise wrote:I disagree with the "conventional wisdom" being espoused in this thread. Footnotes are a great way to show erudition. However, it is absolutely essential that they be in proper Bluebook (legal citation) form. These people on the adcoms are lawyers and legal academics! I suggest you start reading up: http://www.legalbluebook.com/
Even at an early age, I demonstrated academic excellence. See, e.g., Mrs. Johnson, 3d Grade Report Card, Smalltown Elementary (1993) (indicating the award of 4 gold stars). My work ethic and study habits have been consistently recognized as above average. Id. at *2; accord Mr. Wagner, 5th Period Remedial Algebra, 7th Grade Report Card, Smalltown Jr. High (2000) ("Marinekingprime completed all required assignments").

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by xmrmckenziex » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:25 am

Kilpatrick wrote:
Marinekingprime wrote:I have allot of supplementary information for my law school package (medical records, youth record, elementary and high school records, newspaper article and so on and so forth) would it be all right to reference this material in my PS by using footnotes?
So you're asking if you should do something like:

"And then when I was 14 I won a pie eating contest at the county fair.[1] That's why you should let me in to your law school.

[1] see attached article from the Bumfuck Examiner."

The answer is absolutely not.
+1 I think the humor of said citation will succeed in a greater capacity than an actual footnote.

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by sneijder » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:55 am

Kilpatrick wrote:
Marinekingprime wrote:I have allot of supplementary information for my law school package (medical records, youth record, elementary and high school records, newspaper article and so on and so forth) would it be all right to reference this material in my PS by using footnotes?
So you're asking if you should do something like:

"And then when I was 14 I won a pie eating contest at the county fair.[1] That's why you should let me in to your law school.

[1] see attached article from the Bumfuck Examiner."

The answer is absolutely not.
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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by 071816 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:13 am

I would urintate on a PS with footnotes.

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by blsingindisguise » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:14 am

Anonymous Loser wrote:
blsingindisguise wrote:I disagree with the "conventional wisdom" being espoused in this thread. Footnotes are a great way to show erudition. However, it is absolutely essential that they be in proper Bluebook (legal citation) form. These people on the adcoms are lawyers and legal academics! I suggest you start reading up: http://www.legalbluebook.com/
Even at an early age, I demonstrated academic excellence. See, e.g., Mrs. Johnson, 3d Grade Report Card, Smalltown Elementary (1993) (indicating the award of 4 gold stars). My work ethic and study habits have been consistently recognized as above average. Id. at *2; accord Mr. Wagner, 5th Period Remedial Algebra, 7th Grade Report Card, Smalltown Jr. High (2000) ("Marinekingprime completed all required assignments").
[1] The applicant was also voted best dresser. 5 Yearbook at 27, supra note 42.

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by xmrmckenziex » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:15 am

Just roll with me on this one...

PS consisting of nothing BUT footnotes!

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by NZA » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:16 am

xmrmckenziex wrote:Just roll with me on this one...

PS consisting of nothing BUT footnotes!
Footnotes to footnotes. We'll call it the snow fortress level.

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by Kobe_Teeth » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:34 am

Try to be funny and clever with your footnotes - like Chuck Klosterman!

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by DocHawkeye » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:57 am

xmrmckenziex wrote:Just roll with me on this one...

PS consisting of nothing BUT footnotes!
I've seen Law Review artices and publications in other scholarly journals that appear this way - entire pages of footnotes. Ugh - who reads that crap?

Edit: I'm not sure why I capitalized law review.

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Re: Footnotes in PS?

Post by Flips88 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:11 am

Kobe_Teeth wrote:Try to be funny and clever with your footnotes - like Chuck Klosterman!
Ah, if anything, this. When I was a senior in high school I wrote a paper that mentioned MacGuyver and had a footnote with a picture of MacGuyver for reference. Picture footnotes are TCR.

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