Schizophrenia GPA addendum

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Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby witorres89 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:04 am

I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia my senior year of college. Looking back it greatly affected my ability to preform well in my courses as an underclassman. I was wonder weather or not to even mention the condition at all as there may still be a stigma. Anyone have any feedback?

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby Teoeo » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:07 am

Personally I would stay away from that, huge stigma IMO.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby rman1201 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:09 am

Addenda should be used to address something that happened in the past and affected performance and will no longer be a factor during law school. I would leave it out unless you've received significant treatment.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby Leira7905 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:11 am

witorres89 wrote:I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia my senior year of college. Looking back it greatly affected my ability to preform well in my courses as an underclassman. I was wonder weather or not to even mention the condition at all as there may still be a stigma. Anyone have any feedback?



Please don't take this the wrong way because I don't mean to be unsympathetic in any way, but have you looked into how having Schizophrenia will affect the C&F assessment for bar passage in your state? I know in Texas they ask about this type of thing....

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby thegor1987 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:15 am

I would check with C&F if you can be a lawyer w/ schizophrenia before paying for law school.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby witorres89 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:22 am

thegor1987 wrote:I would check with C&F if you can be a lawyer w/ schizophrenia before paying for law school.

I hadn't even considered this. Where would I look to find more information about whether or not I am even eligible for the bar?

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby Shooter » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:24 am

I would avoid this topic because it will adversely affect your chances of admission. I realize how unfair this might sound - given that law schools often pretend to embrace things like diversity - but the truth is that adcomm's really only care about diversity in the political sense, when it suits their purposes. Overcoming a condition like shizophrenia is an amazing accomplishment, but this will not be reflected in the outcome of your application cycle.

(And by "overcoming" I mean treating your schizophrenia and excelling in spite of it.)

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby thegor1987 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:30 am

witorres89 wrote:
thegor1987 wrote:I would check with C&F if you can be a lawyer w/ schizophrenia before paying for law school.

I hadn't even considered this. Where would I look to find more information about whether or not I am even eligible for the bar?


Just google it, each state has a C&F with informational pamphlets for this sort of thing. Otherwise you can find a number to call. If the condition is sufficiently treatable you may be allowed. Plus some states may be more lenient than others. So research multiple states to see where it will be a problem

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby 2Serious4Numbers » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:33 am

The idea just screams columbine.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby thegor1987 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:33 am

But to address your question, don't mention it unless you have excelled in life despite your condition.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby Leira7905 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:33 am

witorres89 wrote:
thegor1987 wrote:I would check with C&F if you can be a lawyer w/ schizophrenia before paying for law school.

I hadn't even considered this. Where would I look to find more information about whether or not I am even eligible for the bar?


Contact the Bar in the State where you intend to practice as they are all different, as them for the name of the organization that administers the C&F... in Texas it's called the Board of Legal Examiners.... If they have a website, you may be able to review the applications online and see exactly what the questions ask. But I would suggest calling them and asking... you don't have to give your name.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby witorres89 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:48 am

2Serious4Numbers wrote:The idea just screams columbine.

The idea of mentioning it? They didn't have schizophrenia, but your comment does highlight the continued stigma.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby gbpackerbacker » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:51 am

2Serious4Numbers wrote:The idea just screams columbine.


Very, very unacceptable and disrespectful.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby Shooter » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:51 am

2Serious4Numbers wrote:The idea just screams columbine.


Get lost.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby vanwinkle » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:58 am

witorres89 wrote:I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia my senior year of college. Looking back it greatly affected my ability to preform well in my courses as an underclassman. I was wonder weather or not to even mention the condition at all as there may still be a stigma. Anyone have any feedback?

OP, how long has it been since you were diagnosed? Are you officially healthy now, still receiving treatment, etc.? This is something with very serious repercussions, as others have mentioned, for your ability to pass the bar. It's not impossible, but the situation could be greatly different depending on how well you're doing now and how long you've been that way.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby JaLeCa » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:59 am

According to the GA C&F:

D. Evidence of mental or emotional instability:
Evidence of mental or emotional instability, like evidence of chemical dependency, is one of
the factors about which the Fitness Board must inquire. Board members recognize that the
stresses of law school, as well as other life factors, frequently result in applicants seeking
psychiatric or psychological counseling. The Board encourages any applicant to obtain such
counseling or treatment if potential benefits might accrue. The applicant should not allow his
or her future bar application to color that decision. Only severe forms of mental or emotional
problems will trigger an in-depth investigation or have an impact on bar admission decisions.
Isolated instances of consultation for conditions associated with emotional stress will not be
of serious concern to the Board. The Board has the option of requiring an applicant to obtain
an independent medical evaluation from a licensed psychiatrist recommended by the Board.


Edit: If you were diagnosed,and didn't just seek counseling, it would probably raise a major red flag.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby iceskater1620 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:03 am

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby witorres89 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:07 am

vanwinkle wrote:
witorres89 wrote:I was diagnosed with Schizophrenia my senior year of college. Looking back it greatly affected my ability to preform well in my courses as an underclassman. I was wonder weather or not to even mention the condition at all as there may still be a stigma. Anyone have any feedback?

OP, how long has it been since you were diagnosed? Are you officially healthy now, still receiving treatment, etc.? This is something with very serious repercussions, as others have mentioned, for your ability to pass the bar. It's not impossible, but the situation could be greatly different depending on how well you're doing now and how long you've been that way.

I was hospitalized and diagnosed this September. With continuing therapy and medication I have been symptom free since.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby witorres89 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:08 am

JaLeCa wrote:According to the GA C&F:

D. Evidence of mental or emotional instability:
Evidence of mental or emotional instability, like evidence of chemical dependency, is one of
the factors about which the Fitness Board must inquire. Board members recognize that the
stresses of law school, as well as other life factors, frequently result in applicants seeking
psychiatric or psychological counseling. The Board encourages any applicant to obtain such
counseling or treatment if potential benefits might accrue. The applicant should not allow his
or her future bar application to color that decision. Only severe forms of mental or emotional
problems will trigger an in-depth investigation or have an impact on bar admission decisions.
Isolated instances of consultation for conditions associated with emotional stress will not be
of serious concern to the Board. The Board has the option of requiring an applicant to obtain
an independent medical evaluation from a licensed psychiatrist recommended by the Board.


Edit: If you were diagnosed,and didn't just seek counseling, it would probably raise a major red flag.

thanks for the info

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby thegor1987 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:12 am

If you continue to keep it under control you will likely be able to become a lawyer, however I am sure C&F is will make your life very hard in the process

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby 2Serious4Numbers » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:16 am

gbpackerbacker wrote:
2Serious4Numbers wrote:The idea just screams columbine.


Very, very unacceptable and disrespectful.


child please.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby Leira7905 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:17 am

thegor1987 wrote:If you continue to keep it under control you will likely be able to become a lawyer, however I am sure C&F is will make your life very hard in the process


This may or may not be true depending on the state, so definitely check with the Bar (anonymously).... But I still wouldn't write the addendum either way... I wouldn't volunteer this information until it is specifically asked given the possible ramifications.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby JaLeCa » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:34 am

I am reading a sample C&F for Virginia for my own education, and they ask have you been diagnosed, but it specifies in the past 5 years. Call the Bar and ask.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby witorres89 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:38 am

JaLeCa wrote:I am reading a sample C&F for Virginia for my own education, and they ask have you been diagnosed, but it specifies in the past 5 years. Call the Bar and ask.

Thanks again, maybe I should delay law school and strengthen my application with work experiance.

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Re: Schizophrenia GPA addendum

Postby gbpackerbacker » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:45 am

witorres89 wrote:
JaLeCa wrote:I am reading a sample C&F for Virginia for my own education, and they ask have you been diagnosed, but it specifies in the past 5 years. Call the Bar and ask.

Thanks again, maybe I should delay law school and strengthen my application with work experiance.


Never a bad idea ITE.

Also, even if you're allowed to attend the school and practice law, you gotta ask yourself if you'll be healthy enough for the rigors that the two entail. I have read that schizophrenia can be very difficult to deal with and that the treatment of it is very demanding.

Ignore to the comments of insensitive, insecure idiots on online forums.

Whatever you do, I wish you the best. Good luck and persevere.




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