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LRAP and Academia
Does anyone know which of the t14 definitely include academic jobs as part of their LRAP? Is there a list somewhere?
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Re: LRAP and Academia
Bump for interest.
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Re: LRAP and Academia
Yale use to have an LRAP that covered pretty much anything below a certain salary cut-off, but I think that changed a year or two ago.
Also, are you talking about college professor or what? (Because tenure-track law professor positions are going to be above any LRAP salary cut-off, no matter if the type of work qualifies.)
Also, are you talking about college professor or what? (Because tenure-track law professor positions are going to be above any LRAP salary cut-off, no matter if the type of work qualifies.)
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Yeah but below tenure isn't - associate, teaching classes while getting a PhD, etc.Richie Tenenbaum wrote:Yale use to have an LRAP that covered pretty much anything below a certain salary cut-off, but I think that changed a year or two ago.
Also, are you talking about college professor or what? (Because tenure-track law professor positions are going to be above any LRAP salary cut-off, no matter if the type of work qualifies.)
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I said tenure-track (not tenure). And from what I know, tenure-track law prof positions are typically 100K+ (and that's probably a very conservative baseline number, especially for top schools). (But maybe TTT/TTTTs pay a lot less?)John_rizzy_rawls wrote:Yeah but below tenure isn't - associate, teaching classes while getting a PhD, etc.Richie Tenenbaum wrote:Yale use to have an LRAP that covered pretty much anything below a certain salary cut-off, but I think that changed a year or two ago.
Also, are you talking about college professor or what? (Because tenure-track law professor positions are going to be above any LRAP salary cut-off, no matter if the type of work qualifies.)
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- John_rizzy_rawls
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Re: LRAP and Academia
Ah good point. I guess it would just depend then. So most LRAP programs are just below a certain salary in a JD related field?
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I thought they had to be non-profit or a select other group of things (I know some schools include clerkships and some don't). (E.g., I doubt shitlaw 30K/yr would qualify on most all schools' LRAP.) Public interest people would be able to answer this question better than me though.John_rizzy_rawls wrote:Ah good point. I guess it would just depend then. So most LRAP programs are just below a certain salary in a JD related field?
ETA: There was a good breakdown of the LRAPs of the top schools on TLS a few years ago. The thread might be lost forever, but it might be around here somewhere. It might not be up-to-date on each school, but it might provide an idea for what typically does and does not qualify.
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For my purposes I mostly meant academia, clerkship, and PI. But yeah I got you. Thanks.Richie Tenenbaum wrote:I thought they had to be non-profit or a select other group of things (I know some schools include clerkships and some don't). (E.g., I doubt shitlaw 30K/yr would qualify on most all schools' LRAP.) Public interest people would be able to answer this question better than me though.John_rizzy_rawls wrote:Ah good point. I guess it would just depend then. So most LRAP programs are just below a certain salary in a JD related field?
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Re: LRAP and Academia
Found it: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 15&t=62094Richie Tenenbaum wrote: ETA: There was a good breakdown of the LRAPs of the top schools on TLS a few years ago. The thread might be lost forever, but it might be around here somewhere. It might not be up-to-date on each school, but it might provide an idea for what typically does and does not qualify.
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Dude that's awesome, thanks.Richie Tenenbaum wrote:Found it: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 15&t=62094Richie Tenenbaum wrote: ETA: There was a good breakdown of the LRAPs of the top schools on TLS a few years ago. The thread might be lost forever, but it might be around here somewhere. It might not be up-to-date on each school, but it might provide an idea for what typically does and does not qualify.
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Re: LRAP and Academia
Predictably, Harvard and Yale LRAPs are absolutely killer.
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I don't have a link to this, but I'm fairly certain Yale's is not nearly as good as it was at the time that was posted. (I think it has to be legal-related now, maybe non-profit.)John_rizzy_rawls wrote:Predictably, Harvard and Yale LRAPs are absolutely killer.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the LRAPs got worse, b/c those programs were pre-market collapse. Chicago's might be better than what the thread says, though, since they poured a lot of money into it like 2 years ago.
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Re: LRAP and Academia
Makes sense. I hope they kept the undergraduate loans up to a certain point and academia aspects. I'll check it out.
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Re: LRAP and Academia
Doesn't look like it:WhiteyCakes wrote:Possibly Chicago
http://www.law.uchicago.edu/financialaid/LRAPEmployment Covered by LRAP
A graduate must be a paid full-time employee working at least nine months in the calendar year in which the assistance is requested. A graduate must be: (a) engaged in the full-time practice of the law, or in a position normally requiring a law degree; (b) working for the public interest broadly defined; and (c) working for a non-profit organization, defined as a 501(c)(3), government office, or judicial clerkship, other than academia. Graduates employed by the Law School, or those with unpaid positions such as internships and volunteer positions, do not qualify for assistance. Those with questions about eligible postitions should contact the Admissions & Financial Aid Office. Participants wishing to take a parental leave should petition the Committee; a one year extension may be offered.
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Re: LRAP and Academia
Looks like you're right. I figured since they covered clerkships they would cover anything JD-required for a nonprofitRichie Tenenbaum wrote:Doesn't look like it:WhiteyCakes wrote:Possibly Chicagohttp://www.law.uchicago.edu/financialaid/LRAPEmployment Covered by LRAP
A graduate must be a paid full-time employee working at least nine months in the calendar year in which the assistance is requested. A graduate must be: (a) engaged in the full-time practice of the law, or in a position normally requiring a law degree; (b) working for the public interest broadly defined; and (c) working for a non-profit organization, defined as a 501(c)(3), government office, or judicial clerkship, other than academia. Graduates employed by the Law School, or those with unpaid positions such as internships and volunteer positions, do not qualify for assistance. Those with questions about eligible postitions should contact the Admissions & Financial Aid Office. Participants wishing to take a parental leave should petition the Committee; a one year extension may be offered.
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