Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

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Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby JohnV » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:47 am

Title explains it pretty well. I come from a very religious state (Texas) and I am clearly a minority in that sense. Other than that, I'm 100% white.

I also come from a very poor background (negative familial assistance, worked through college) and wondering how I can neutralize my financial disadvantage because it seems the only ones that are able to benefit from being socially disadvantaged are non-white people, even if our economic/social backgrounds are equally disadvantaged. I've noticed some talk about LGBT diversity statements so I figured this was worthy of a threat topic.

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby fatduck » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:48 am

if there were a god, he'd strike you down for this thread.

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby JohnV » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:50 am

fatduck wrote:if there were a god, he'd strike you down for this thread.


And yet I'm still here :twisted: .

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby thederangedwang » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:50 am

no

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby jkpolk » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:52 am

Use your lack of a moral compass to doctor a 4.0 transcript and pay dave hall to take the lsat

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby Mr. Pancakes » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:54 am

OP is retarded.

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby 20130312 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:54 am

polkij333 wrote:Use your lack of a moral compass to doctor a 4.0 transcript and pay dave hall Robin Singh to take the lsat


Shilling for TM. Also, to the OP's question... no.

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby JohnV » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:55 am

polkij333 wrote:Use your lack of a moral compass to doctor a 4.0 transcript and pay dave hall to take the lsat


Lol what lack of moral compass?

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby JohnV » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:55 am

Mr. Pancakes wrote:OP is retarded.


And why do you think that?

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby Tom Joad » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:56 am

JohnV wrote:
polkij333 wrote:Use your lack of a moral compass to doctor a 4.0 transcript and pay dave hall to take the lsat


Lol what lack of moral compass?

Your disbelief in a higher power.

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby JohnV » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:57 am

Tom Joad wrote:
JohnV wrote:
polkij333 wrote:Use your lack of a moral compass to doctor a 4.0 transcript and pay dave hall to take the lsat


Lol what lack of moral compass?

Your disbelief in a higher power.


Those 2 things are not synonymous. You must do terrible in LR sections.

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby Mr. Pancakes » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:00 am

JohnV wrote:
Mr. Pancakes wrote:OP is retarded.


And why do you think that?

because you thought being an atheist could possibly be considered an URM.

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby Mr. Pancakes » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:01 am

JohnV wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:
JohnV wrote:
polkij333 wrote:Use your lack of a moral compass to doctor a 4.0 transcript and pay dave hall to take the lsat


Lol what lack of moral compass?

Your disbelief in a higher power.


Those 2 things are not synonymous. You must do terrible in LR sections.

FALSE.

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby Tom Joad » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:02 am

JohnV wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:
JohnV wrote:
polkij333 wrote:Use your lack of a moral compass to doctor a 4.0 transcript and pay dave hall to take the lsat


Lol what lack of moral compass?

Your disbelief in a higher power.


Those 2 things are not synonymous. You must do terrible in LR sections.

Then where would you get your morals from? I suppose you don't believe God handed down the 10 Commandments, so I assume you don't think it is wrong to lie. Don't you see how that could reflect poorly upon you as a lawyer? Just trying to help man. No need to get snippy.

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby JohnV » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:03 am

Mr. Pancakes wrote:
JohnV wrote:
Mr. Pancakes wrote:OP is retarded.


And why do you think that?

because you thought being an atheist could possibly be considered an URM.


why could LGBT be considered and Atheist could not? If minority status is not a purely skin-color related attribute, cultural identity is not a far off identifier.

For the rest of your "atheist don't have moral compasses" bit, I'm just going to assume you're a troll and wait for you to be banned.

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby jkpolk » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:06 am

JohnV wrote:
Mr. Pancakes wrote:
JohnV wrote:
Mr. Pancakes wrote:OP is retarded.


And why do you think that?

because you thought being an atheist could possibly be considered an URM.


why could LGBT be considered and Atheist could not? If minority status is not a purely skin-color related attribute, cultural identity is not a far off identifier.

For the rest of your "atheist don't have moral compasses" bit, I'm just going to assume you're a troll and wait for you to be banned.


stop trying to start an AA shitstorm

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby JohnV » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:06 am

I really expected a more intelligent or at least open minded group of people from this forum. I get my moral compass from the some place you do, from my culture, my own values, from the mutual benefit we get as a species and a society to behave as good human beings. I don't need an all-knowing space daddy to tell me not to be a bad person. If anything, I have a stronger sense of morality than you do because I am a good person based on my own accord, not out of fear or through external guidance.

Please tell me there is just a really active and on-the-ball troll community here and that the majority of posters aren't this bigoted/dumb...

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby Nova » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:07 am

Mr. Pancakes wrote:
JohnV wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:
JohnV wrote:
Lol what lack of moral compass?

Your disbelief in a higher power.


Those 2 things are not synonymous. You must do terrible in LR sections.

FALSE.


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Suggesting OP lacks a moral compass because of thier disbelief in a higher power is not synonymous with doing terrible at LR sections.
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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby thederangedwang » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:08 am

JohnV wrote:I really expected a more intelligent or at least open minded group of people from this forum. I get my moral compass from the some place you do, from my culture, my own values, from the mutual benefit we get as a species and a society to behave as good human beings. I don't need an all-knowing space daddy to tell me not to be a bad person. If anything, I have a stronger sense of morality than you do because I am a good person based on my own accord, not out of fear or through external guidance.

Please tell me there is just a really active and on-the-ball troll community here and that the majority of posters aren't this bigoted/dumb...

all human culture and values descend from religion..its only a matter of what religion it descends from...since you are atheist, by definition you cant have values or culture

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby JohnV » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:09 am

Probably not, just stating that line of logic does not flow well at all because it makes assumptions that are completely unwarranted.

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby Mr. Pancakes » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:10 am

Lgbt isn't considered as an URM

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby JohnV » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:11 am

thederangedwang wrote:all human culture and values descend from religion..its only a matter of what religion it descends from...since you are atheist, by definition you cant have values or culture


Lol what? Humanity had culture before religion was even a thing. The ancient Greeks had one of the most sophisticated cultures this world has ever seen and plenty of its highest intellects were atheist. Values descended from religion? You must not read much philosophy because only an idiot with no sense of history would make that statement.

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby JohnV » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:11 am

Mr. Pancakes wrote:Lgbt isn't considered as an URM


Yet many here have stated it's worthy of a Diversity Statement. Which was part of my question.

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby thederangedwang » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:12 am

JohnV wrote:
thederangedwang wrote:all human culture and values descend from religion..its only a matter of what religion it descends from...since you are atheist, by definition you cant have values or culture


Lol what? Humanity had culture before religion was even a thing. The ancient Greeks had one of the most sophisticated cultures this world has ever seen and plenty of its highest intellects were atheist. Values descended from religion? You must not read much philosophy because only an idiot with no sense of history would make that statement.

are you seriously using the greeks as an example of atheism???

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Re: Atheism considered an URM/Diversity Statement Worthy?

Postby StrictlyBusiness » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:13 am

JohnV wrote:Probably not, just stating that line of logic does not flow well at all because it makes assumptions that are completely unwarranted.


So you countered by making an unwarranted assumption?

I think the main issue here is that atheists aren't under represented, they're just minorities.




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