URM 2012-2013 Cycle... let's go! Forum

[tectonic]

Mexican-American from Southern California checking in here. GPA is 3.4 (actually it might 3.3x once it is LSAC'ed ...). Current LSAT is 163. Hoping to score 165+ on Saturday.

[Psib337]

My heart is ponding ya'll.

I took PT63 last night and got a 167 (highest to date). My PTs have been 165. I'm scurred because I know some people go down on exam day.

Also, excited because I got a 167...which could put me in the H/S range (...or not..please don't chew me up TLS community)

Anyway, good luck with the last week of studying my fellow URM Oct LSAT testakers.

+1.

Just don't burn out before Saturday AM. Take Friday off if you can and before you head to the test center, try and do one or two timed sections for warm-up without looking at the answer key.

Best wishes to all!

Hmm good idea about warming up! I think that might be useful. I might also have 1 or 2 glasses of wine Friday evening to calm my nerves.

Btw, WHO ELSE IS GOING H.A.M SAT NIGHT AFTER THE LSAT? NYC aint ready for this young buck

Saturday night? I may not make it to Saturday, me and a friend are going straight from the test to a drunk lunch which will most likely to turn into lunch and us getting hammered at a bar until we decide that it's no longer acceptable for us to be seen in public because we're such a mess. I did the same thing with her after June...it was a very good idea.

[lawprospie]

Saturday night? I may not make it to Saturday, me and a friend are going straight from the test to a drunk lunch which will most likely to turn into lunch and us getting hammered at a bar until we decide that it's no longer acceptable for us to be seen in public because we're such a mess. I did the same thing with her after June...it was a very good idea.

Really! You're a champ. I plan to crash, maybe sleep a bit and relax my mind and think only positive thoughts. Also, we can't bring cell phone to the test site...so going straight out afterwards seems a bit weird.

Btw, keep on truckin people; law school is calling our name!

[Manhattanman]

Looks like everyone is in LSAT mode. Good luck Be quick, but don't hurry.

[Psib337]

Saturday night? I may not make it to Saturday, me and a friend are going straight from the test to a drunk lunch which will most likely to turn into lunch and us getting hammered at a bar until we decide that it's no longer acceptable for us to be seen in public because we're such a mess. I did the same thing with her after June...it was a very good idea.

Really! You're a champ. I plan to crash, maybe sleep a bit and relax my mind and think only positive thoughts. Also, we can't bring cell phone to the test site...so going straight out afterwards seems a bit weird.

Btw, keep on truckin people; law school is calling our name!

I kept my phone in the car last time. But it looks like you're in NYC where, I think, it makes no sense to have a car unless you regularly need to leave the city.

[astrodoggy]

Feeling pretty confident about this test tomorrow. Just gonna do a little bit more prep today and chill for the rest of the day. I feel like that 164 is within my grasp!

Best of luck to my fellow URM testakers. We got this!

[Yaaaas2013]

Good luck October LSAT test takers!

[chiach1]

So how does everyone think they did?

[Psib337]

So how does everyone think they did?

If I have to retake in December zoning will be the reason why. Didn't know what was going on, had to read the first paragraph 3 times before I even got to the rules, and carried the anxiety over to the last section

[jcan91]

Same here. Worst part is LG was always my best section so I felt slightly betrayed, but hey, I said my prayers and did my best. Leaving the rest up to God and letting Him be my law school predictor.

[mommalee]

Not so great. The rules on the LG threw me, but so did taking 3 LR sections before even getting to the games

[CalAlumni]

FML is all I can say.

December is a BIG possibility for me thanks to LG + ZONES.

[astrodoggy]

Felt really icky after the LSAT yesterday. Rocked RC and finished all 3 LRs that I got with time to spare. LG killed me though. ugh! Trying to stay focused/distracted by making sure the rest of my application is tight and remembering that this score, whatever it ends up being, is not my end all be all.

[toshiroh]

I'm new to this board and currently freaking out about the test. I just want my score. I felt alright, but after reading all of these statements.... I now feel like crap.

[CalAlumni]

I'm new to this board and currently freaking out about the test. I just want my score. I felt alright, but after reading all of these statements.... I now feel like crap.

I know, right? I'm dying to receive my score. Hurry up LSAC.

[lady law]

AA female checking in! Hopefully we only have to wait 9 more days for our scores to roll in...

[LSAT>LDAC]

AA male checking in. I sat up against the wall, directly under the clock and didn't bring a watch. I will be retaking, most likely. Probably scored in the low to mid 160's. I don't know. The best part about it was, wait, there wasn't a best part.

"Okay open your booklet to section 4. And, begin."

[RecordPlayer89]

Hispanic male checking in, retook in October, anxiously waiting for score. Fingers crossed for scores on the 29th.

[CalAlumni]

Good luck RecordPlayer89, LSAT>LDAC, and lady law! I took the LSAT in Oct. too so I'm just as anxious as you all to get my score. I'm nervous just thinking about opening that email.

[toshiroh]

AA Male checking in. Hope I scored well, so that I won't have to retake in Feb. Anyway, good luck to you all!

[bizzybone1313]

Is it better for an URM applicant to have a GPA/LSAT combo of being slightly below both medians at a particular T-14 (say a 3.65/168) or for the person to have either the LSAT or GPA above one of the medians and the other way below the remaining median (say a 3.9/160 or 172/3.1) at a T-14? Which person would have the better admission outcomes 9 times out of 10? Does anyone know for sure? URM's that applied in past cycles?

[LSAT>LDAC]

Yeah, I feel the same way about the idea of opening that email. I'll be retaking either way though, for a variety of reasons. Mostly because no matter what my score is I know I could've done 4 or 5 points better, at least.

Eh, "sometimes you're the bug; sometimes you're the windshield."

[TrialLawyer16]

Is it better for an URM applicant to have a GPA/LSAT combo of being slightly below both medians at a particular T-14 (say a 3.65/168) or for the person to have either the LSAT or GPA above one of the medians and the other way below the remaining median (say a 3.9/160 or 172/3.1) at a T-14? Which person would have the better admission outcomes 9 times out of 10? Does anyone know for sure? URM's that applied in past cycles?

Slightly below both medians is better overall for acceptances, but the extremely high LSAT/GPAs are better for money. That 3.65/168 can get you into Stanford. The 3.1/172 is almost a surefire no there, while the 3.9/160 has a better, but very unlikely, shot. What that 3.1/172 might do though is get you a huge scholarship at say Michigan, etc., that the 3.65/168 might not get, but the 3.1 GPA will put you underneath the floors at other schools. It's kind of a complex game, but overall it's better to be a reverse splitter than normal splitter for URMs. I think it's because in the school's mind even though their admitting someone who is a splitter nonetheless, the extremely high GPA shows that that person has shown that they have what it takes to succeed in class. They don't want to admit URMs using the URM boost just to have the bottom of the class filled with URMs. It's a big thing to them and they really try to gauge a splitter candidate's likelihood of success, not just in law school but after school as well, before admitting them. All in all I'd rather have the 3.65/168, especially if AA because in that case I'd be absolutely shocked if I didn't get a T-6.

[BlaqBella]

What if you're a URM with a GPA that is just at the GPA floor for HYS and a median - above median LSAT score?

Speaking of GPA floors, I believe Yale doesn't go lower than 3.5, but what of Harvard and Stanford for URMs? Is it a 3.2? The responses are so varied. It doesn't help that I have seen exceptions to the "rule"...whatever that is.

[TrialLawyer16]

What if you're a URM with a GPA that is just at the GPA floor for HYS and a median - above median LSAT score?

Speaking of GPA floors, I believe Yale doesn't go lower than 3.5, but what of Harvard and Stanford for URMs? Is it a 3.2? The responses are so varied. It doesn't help that I have seen exceptions to the "rule"...whatever that is.

That's the epitome of a crapshoot (a.k.a. trying your luck and seeing what happens for my gambling disinclined friends).

No one knows what the floors at Y and S are. But from the stats Yale put out about their 2011 entering class (Class of 2014), I believe the lowest GPA Y accepted was a 3.61. Not sure about S, but I'd think anything under a 3.4 is going to be incredibly hard to pull off. H is the most splitter friendly of the three, simply because their class size is 3 times that of Y and S. Y and S can afford to be pickier. No one can ever tell you the actual hard floor of these schools, but it is known that there are a few 3.2/low-17X AA males walking around at H. 3.2 is the lowest I've heard of GPA-wise at any of the three and they're all at H.