Tell me all you know about Willamette Law School......... Forum

[flynhawaiian]

I'm kind of interested are some of you thinking that golden gate is better than willamette?

[willamette]

I have never been to Golden Gate, but I like California, and in retrospect I may have chosen to live there for three years. It will probably be more expensive in Cali unless you have great scholarships to offset the cost of living. Until a few days ago I may have argued that Willamette will slowly climb in the rankings (we do have a pretty good bar passage rate and it seemed like the reputation was improving). Willamette has a pretty good regional reputation: BUT - Willamette is back in the 4th tier and I am tired of telling myself much will improve. If you want to take the California Bar and work in CA, go to Golden Gate. If you want to work in Oregon (and you believe the economy is going to pick up in the next three years) go to Willamette. Speaking from experience Willamette provides a good education and the professors are smart and charismatic (most of them) - I have used Golden Gate exams (they kindly make them available to anyone online) to study for my exams and it seems they are about the same, so I imagine Golden Gate provides a similar education. if Golden Gate is bigger (enrollment) you should take into account that you will have a better selection of coursed at a bigger school. I also know that Golden Gate allows students to spend a semester interning anywhere in the US - this can REALLY help you to establish contacts where you want to work. thomas cooley does the same thing.

Wherever you go - do not forget to make getting a job a your full time job while in school. Otherwise you will end up in debt and scrambling for a legal job that pays less than most starting jobs out of undergrad. In this economy, think long and hard about what else you could do with three years of your life and 150 thousand dollars... think long and hard.... if you won a 150 thousand dollar lottery (300k gross with 1/2 taxes) - would you go to law school?

as usual - feel free to ignore any non willamette specific information in this post.

Back to studying for my Monday Final -- next week is my last week of law school...

[Halfway]

How do you rate the girls at WUCL?

[willamette]

Another note - do some research on Golden Gate to see how they handle failure. If Golden Gate has a program that helps struggling students this might be a deal-maker. Willamette kicks out the bottom few students each semester and the "program" for the struggling students is that they have to retake THE ENTIRE CLASS if they do not score well. You may never have to retake a class wherever you go; but if Golden Gate does not have this policy you will at least not have the environment that is fostered by students who fear the axe or the retake...

As mentioned before - these harsh policies have done little to help Willamette's rank.

[A'nold]

Ah, my old thread.

[flynhawaiian]

seems like an interesting perspective, with the recent 77.8% first time bar pass rate for july 2008 it almost seems like GGU is slowly improving... I wonder about further discussion

[OperaSoprano]

A'nold, not another one of these things!

Guess where you are going?

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BTW, do you like my new avatar?

[willamette]

I do not have any empirical studies, but it seems there is a general consensus that the California Bar is really difficult, possibly more difficult than the Oregon Bar. If you are worried about passing the bar, Willamette really focuses on bar passage. Students with lower grades are required to take bar courses and there is also a weekly bar-prep course offered on Wednesdays for the final semester of school. Either way, BarBri and stamina for the month before the Bar seem to be the most important factors in bar passage rate.

[A'nold]

A'nold, not another one of these things!

Guess where you are going?

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BTW, do you like my new avatar?

Nah, this is a hella old thread. However, I like the "tell me all you know about" series and I think I should trademark it. Btw- I just sent in my deposit to the school everyone told me not to do so with. I am now double-deposited.

[Mr. Matlock]

A'nold, not another one of these things!

Guess where you are going?

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BTW, do you like my new avatar?

Nah, this is a hella old thread. However, I like the "tell me all you know about" series and I think I should trademark it. Btw- I just sent in my deposit to the school everyone told me not to do so with. I am now double-deposited.

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[OperaSoprano]

A'nold, tell me you didn't! There's still time to cancel that check!



You love UConn!

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(I'm loving the fact that you just said hella. You, sir, cannot hide your northern california roots. You make me homesick.)

<3

[A'nold]

You bastards! Stop tempting me with my true love and let me use logic to decide my fate!

[69sofine]

You bastards! Stop tempting me with my true love and let me use logic to decide my fate!

Where'd you double deposit?

[Mr. Matlock]

You bastards! Stop tempting me with my true love and let me use logic to decide my fate!

Christmas at UCONN:

[Mr. Matlock]

You bastards! Stop tempting me with my true love and let me use logic to decide my fate!

Where'd you double deposit?

Christmas in Idaho:

[hdil88]

to all of you talking about the attrition rate at Willamette.. check the ABA stats.. it tells you what it is and it is not even close to 20% per year. http://officialguide.lsac.org/SearchRes ... px?sid=173
as you can see according to these stats 15 total students over 3 years get cut.. that could not possibly be 20% a year. Another way to see that this is not true is by realizing how many students they enroll for a year: around 150, and how many graduate 3 years later usually around 135. If you where to follow these ridiculous 20% a year numbers only about 80 students of a class would end up graduating!

[haylie]

it's back to a T3!

[Tehpokerstar]

It goes back and forth between T3 and T4.

[bThornRPL]

It goes back and forth between T3 and T4.

What's the deal with that?

[Tehpokerstar]

it just means that if you care about rankings, then wucl might not be something you want.